Survey: 68% of Americans Felt Safer 2 Years Ago with Trump in Office

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Biden cannot handle stairs and bicycles. He needs to get the basics down first.....:roflol:
     
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    The economy has gone down like Joe on a 10 speed......:roflol:
     
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    Seems a bit of a weak reach but...
     
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    It is really funny...The same played-out boring cringe...
    Every time the RW loses in a thread, they resort to some lame played-out Anti-Biden Meme...:bored:
    That pathetic shtick has grown beyond old and boring...
    No originality (whatsoever)...:bored:
    Biden could bring about World Peace, and the same boring "Hey Lookie, Biden on Bike" crap would still be getting posted ad nauseum...
    Apparently, some people still haven't realized that they are posting at an Adult Forum?
    And, maybe that why their only "contribution" is Childish Memes?
    ^Strictly a rhetorical question (and, of course, speaking in general terms)...

    Anyway, back to the OP Topic...
    To restate the stupefyingly obvious:
    What this "poll" is saying that:
    People felt SAFER when everything was closed down (b/c of Covid) and they could stay in the comfort of their own homes?
    ^Truly a startling revelation...
    What is next?
    A Tralf "Poll" about how many people think the Sun will rise tomorrow?:bored:
     
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  5. Joe knows

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    You can’t be that foolish to run in that can you? What effected GDP during Trumps term? Think about that real hard and ask yourself if the democrat forced shutdowns slowed GDP.
     
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    People are abandoning the cities because they feel unsafe due to defuning the police and Soros DAs.

    You are not doing your side any favors by ignoring reality.
     
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    My "side"?
    I DON'T have a "side"...
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  8. doombug

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    Biden waiting on a handshake...
    6un7lb.gif

    :roflol:
     
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    It is good thing Jill is around to help Biden get dressed....

    6un7gg.gif

    ......:roflol:
     
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    You're getting the cart before the horse. I haven't mentioned the Babbitt shooting. But I've already said that I do NOT support murder or violence of any kind. No, I'm not "ANTIFA", I didn't think one person could BE and organization. But, for the record, quoting Groucho Marx, "I refuse to join or belong to an group or organization that will accept me as a member".

    The fact is you can't post links absolving RW militias, anarchists, and white supremacists. Even in Portland the situation was exacerbated by RW agitators. The fact is you're criticizing me for posting links condemning violence when you support January 6th 2021 violence. You're condemning me for criticizing tRaitor tRumps big like that the 2020 election was stolen, as it was, when you support everything tRaitor tRump does and says.

    You support conspiracy theory's?
     
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    And I won't try to post links absolving RW militias. Because that would be stupid since some were responsible. But you're acting as if they are the only reason that the riots happened. You are not giving ANY blame to BLM/ANTIFA. None. Yet you have the balls to claim that I "support" the 1/6 violence? I have a posting history that contradicts that thank you very much. I have several posts condemning the riots and hoping that they are all charged appropriately for their violence. Nor have I ever condemned you for criticizing Trump. You won't find a single post doing so. I also have posts criticizing Trump for being a braggart and an *******, I just don't think he's as bad as you and others claim. Which I guess in your mind means that I support everything he says and does.

    Stop projecting.
     
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    He tried to overthrow the country ... OUR Country ... These United States; that's plenty bad enough for me.

    Practice what you preach.
     
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    I have yet to see actual evidence that he did. I have heard plenty of claims and one sided arguments. No actual proof.
     
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    Donald brainwashed his followers for months about that he won the elections and that they were all cheated out / stole the elections. Lots of people believe that BS, and he exploited it on and on and on... to eventually hold a rally on jan the 6th were he told those same people to fight for or lose the country is numerous ways over and over. His lawyer that he had on his payroll yelled to the crowed to go for a trial by combat on that same stage. etc etc etc. And off they went. And we know now that Trump closely followed the attack on the Capital on tv for hours without any attempt to stop his crowed, and in fact pressured his people in the Capitol to submit to his will to get him to be "president". I mean... those are the well known undisputed facts.

    A person totally adoring Trump would never admit to this. No amount of prove will ever do, because of the idea that any doubt is enough to claim "reasonable doubt". But you know. There is no way an impartial non American could see this differently who exactly lid that fuse for those 1000's of people who tried to install Trump as dictator on jan the 6th. They'd be just pointing and laughing at the irrational ways a pro Trumper tries to whine out of the obvious.


    And so who cares if specifically some indoctrinated fool supposedly never saw any evidence, when billions of people know it's there.
    It's certainly not about to convince the very last fool about facts, but the absolute zero chance an impartial non American would change it's mind.
     
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    Then you haven’t been paying attention or are letting bias influence your opinion.
     
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    Every word that you claim was said, has been said by multiple other politicians. Yet you don't hold them to the same standard. And you ignore words that he did say that showed he did not want violence also. IE: you cherry pick things to assert your claims and do not take into account the totality of what he said. Now, listen to what I'm about to say very closely.... Did his words, over several months, cause the riots on 1/6? YES. Did he INTEND for the riots to happen? I have yet to see any evidence showing that he meant for the violence to happen. In fact from what I have seen he did not want the violence to happen, in part because the plan he did have required that violence did not happen. He wanted to use a law to try and get the electors switched. Something that is legal. Whether you want to admit it or not. Lawyers and politicians, and yes, businessmen, have been doing the same thing for longer than any of us have been alive. They all use the laws to try and give them an advantage. Every advantage that they can possibly squeeze out of it. In fact that same law that Trump tried to use? Is used every single election year by the losing party. Dems used it in 2016. Repubs used it both times Obama was elected. And so on and so forth. It just wasn't as advertised as it was with Trump and it wasn't advertised in the way its being advertised against Trump.
     
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    Or I'm paying attention and learning things on my own far more than you who only listens to one side and does not educate themselves.
     
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    That’s horseshit. NOBODY has lied about an election like tRaitor tRump did and no other President has ever used the full force of their office to overturn an election which would have resulted in the overthrow of OUR Government By The People.


    That’s not exclusive to you. I listen to 0 network news. For no other reason than I don’t have cable, we stream all our TV. I read a wide variety of books and then scour the internet to verify what I’ve read.
     
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    safer from what, the risk of Republicans destroying democracy cause their guy lost?
     
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    it's on tape, republicans recorded him
     
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    Trump's apologists will excuse anything that Trump does...
    Trump clearly knows his voters...
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    LOL! Safer from Biden and the democrats wrecking the economy.
     
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    But they are doing us a favor. Where I live we have the biggest police department we’ve ever had and equip them very well.
     
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    Trump tried to use the law to his advantage. Using the law is not an overthrow. He just pushed for it harder than others have in the past. But I do note that you couldn't dispute anything else that I said.

    I don't have cable or satellite. The only "TV" I watch is anime and a few shows/movies through streaming. HBOMax, Crunchyroll, and Netflix. My kids like HBOMax and Netflix the most, Crunchyroll is my norm. As for where I get my news....I actually pick from the forum here on what I'm interested in, then go to multiple various sites from both sides of the fence. And when debating people like you, my favorite go-to sites are liberal ones so as to cut off any argument about bias. Failing to use those I'll go for more neutral sites. Failing that I'll use conservative sites. IE: I use conservative sites for last, usually when the more liberal sites refuse to speak about things that make their side look bad. Reverse this order when I argue with a conservative. Another site I use is Youtube...mainly for political, gaming, and educational things. Though Youtube sucks for politics imo, i've noticed that the major news media is pretty much always on top for searches so don't really like to use those, its a pain to find the more independent journalists, which imo is far more trust worthy than any major news media outlet today. Its best used for educational (DIY stuff mainly) and gaming. I even use wikipedia, but mainly just to find a general outline and I'll follow their external links and after that I'll generally have enough info to do more thorough searches on the internet.
     
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    He pushed so hard he pushed the whole country to the brink. You can also "note", I stopped reading at that bullshit.

    TLDR, you've never said anything worth that much of my time.
     

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