Trump's support among Republicans plummets.

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is. Your beliefs that anybody is is a conspiracy created by leftists.

    Leftists want to believe that nobody really disagrees with them. Mostly because that is a threat to leftism.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    Well I support Trump for president in 2024 and I did in 2016 as well as 2020. I don't feel like I'm stupid or brainwashed or anything for doing that I know exactly why I support him. They don't want to talk about that because they want to call you stupid and suggest there's something wrong with you.

    This really isn't about Trump war you were me it's about Democrat voters better either walking away from the party or voting against it.

    They want to give off this message that everyone does this is stupid and brainwashed and somehow less intelligent or sophisticated. That's how there's kept their flock of sheep in line for so long.

    Oftentimes some of the sheep want to feel like shepherds.
     
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    Yahoo news, i month ago:

    Republicans who support former President Trump more than they support the GOP climbed to 41 percent in August, up 7 points from May when 34 percent said they supported Trump more than the party, according to an NBC News poll released Sunday.

    A slim majority of Republicans, or 50 percent, say they support the party more than they do Trump, the poll finds. But that’s down from 58 percent in May.

    Too many experts out there. You can find anything you want.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    It makes me wonder what the subterfuge is all about? Are they trying to convince their party to go vote or are they trying to convince Trump's party not to?

    I don't think any of those tactics are going to work because the writing is on the wall.
     
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    We got Mid Terms to focus on mate --- Trump has been out of the limelight for quite some time as a legit contender -- and while polls are notoriously fickle .. it may well be that the GOP has moved on..

    What ever the case -- the mid terms gonna be very interesting .. Red gonna do well .. and will be a host of contenders vying for the throne of a train that has been bowling over the Blue side - despite not having a leader.. so we have a quite the vacuum .. you can hear the air sucking in .. Who will be the one to ascend to the vacant throne ..
     
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    Go ahead you have my permission. Unlike you I don't have his app or address not even on his mailing list.
     
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    Very true though I don’t believe we’re missing it but rather attempting to tiptoe around it not to offend voters/donors. Bad call in my view.

    It’s the reason actual Fascists were at the speaking podium at CPAC. The issue is the infrastructure of the Republican Party expending it’s resources courting this fringe rather than affirming an American way forward albeit that’s part of the Party’s heritage.

    Obviously I’m not a fan and prefer working within our system to affect change. This movement is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. The Party needs a day of reckoning to right it’s ship. Hopefully we’ll reward it with that opportunity at the midterm.
     
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    The tide of national populism has already risen and is being played out in Europe.
    The Russian aggression and Covid has made Europe realise the need to stick together is am open dialogue in a rules based organisation to fight those who seek to divide it. Including tin pot mentally challenged wannabe overlords like Trump and his court jester sidekick Boris Johnson, deposed Primeinister in the UK.
    Europe hasn't been so strongly united for years.
     
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    Nice theory.
     
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    Sounds like the dems are in danger of overplaying their hand. Most agree that trump is a retarded stain on our country. I'm not sure its a winning strategy to harp on his buffoonry, but I agree it's their only hope.
     
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    ffs, have we EVER had a president as dumb as trump? I seriously doubt it.
     
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    congratulations, if true. trump really did kill the country. is that what you want?
     
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    You are living in a nation being over-run by illegals with the help of the current government, in large part because the people in today's government opposed the border wall and the idea that America belongs to Americans first.

    You are living in a nation where people arrested for violent crimes including murder are being released without bail, because those same people think it's unfair to hold them, but fair to unleash them on the public.
    Crime is literally flourishing, because the people responsible for maintaining law and order are embracing stupidity and chaos instead.

    You are living in a nation where those same people are calling violent rioters peaceful protestors, and parents objecting to schools teaching their children about deviant sex and perversions- terrorists.

    If anyone is killing America- it damn sure wasn't Trump. It IS those people.
    It's clear and obvious to anyone whose mind works properly.
     
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    seeing you say Trump is not the better Candidate is promising... thanks
     
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    And internet connected Dominion machines didn't either...
     
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    It seems to me that if any really good man takes a look at the crap and abuse the successful candidate would have to endure- they would never consider asking for the job.
     
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    *LOL*
     
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    The GOP base is conservative (not the, IMO, 9% neocons of the base who pose as conservatives) and Trump is conservative...I don't think there'll be any splitting of the GOP base with Trump.

    For example, the Cheneys aren't part of the base. For example, G.W. Bush isn't part of the base. For examples, Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell aren't part of the base.
     
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    Reminds me of an old saying.
    "Old age and treachery will beat youth and skill every time."
    The key word is treachery; the presence of it, the tolerance of it, totally changes the game- and destroys it's legitimacy.
    That is how incompetent dictators gain power, how they control the people, and how nations lose their freedom.

    We're watching this happen.
     
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    The only treachery attempt was by trump.
     
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    And that's why nobody can show it, but rather focuses on make believe allegations- and sheer denial. Hillary didn't fabricate and finance the phony dossier, and Trump hasn't been the target of a vendetta since day one, when they were planning his impeachment before he even won office. That's why today- they still fear; not the man- but the ideas he stood for, and the popularity those ideas found. They fear the phrase "Make America Great Again" and call it a terrorist slogan. Doesn't get much more anti-American than that. and yet they continue to double down on the objective of destroying the nation.

    If you buy the propaganda, you are the victim of your own gullibility.
     
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    Umm, read the Mueller Report.
     
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    I don't buy any propaganda, I get my info from the idiots mouth. trump wanted Pence not to certify the election - thats treachery. As far as the maga stuff, trump believed none of it. He said what he thought would get him the most attention. He has the mind of a two year old.
     
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    Promising for what. I didn't vote for him the first have never said I want him to run again and have voice my disdain for the man personally ever since he announced he was running the first time.
     
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