Did President Biden blowup the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline

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  1. Dayton3

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    What does making something no longer exist mean to you? Was he going to pull a David Copperfield and make it disappear?
     
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    BTW, I don't think this was a partisan decision.. I TRULY hope that the US had nothing to do with this, however all indications point to the US committing an act of war.

     
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    As I posted and you obviously failed to read.

    Sanctions.
     
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    So did Nuland, but the Bidenistas will convince themselves that the US simply could not do it. Humans in denial are an embarrassment to watch.
     
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    My question to those who think Russia did this... How does this benefit Russia in ANY capacity? Russia had leverage over Europe this winter with the pipeline and energy. Russia NEEDED the funds to support their war effort. The destruction will tank Russia's economy. Biden literally said if Russia invades, he will end Nord Stream. Again, why would Russia do Biden's bidding for him? Why would Russian intentionally tank their economy? Where the hell is any of the logic here?
     
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    An opposite view has been expressed that Putin himself had the pipeline sabotaged. That makes some sense as the stopping of the pipeline hurts Europe far more than any hurt (if even any) to Russia ....... which gives one an indication of what the hell Biden knows, or doesn't.
     
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    No, that make NO sense. Russia had absolute control of the flow of energy. He had leverage over Europe because of that. Blowing up the pipeline removes any leverage Putin might have had and destroys a MASSIVE economic source for Russia. Putin blowing up the pipeline is no different than cutting your nose off to spite your face.

    The Ruble was actually outperforming all western currencies. This will tank the Ruble.. Again, you think this makes sense?? It makes sense only that Western powers did this to implode the Russian economy.

    Russian Currency Outperforms Western Expectations
     
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    If Joe did do this, then its an act of war. Thanks Joe! I'm on the east coast and will probably be the first victim of an attack.

    Edit: I'm not sure if that makes geographical sense. I'll have to check a map, be back later
     
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    Wow, the conspiracy theorists are out in full force. It's sad to see so many regular people fall into this camp. Oh, well, one just has to look at the covid forums, which are now conspiracy theory central. The internet, with all its fake information available at will, is literally turning people's brains to mush.
     
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    Instead of grand standing rhetoric, please tell us how Russia blowing up their own $20 billion dollar pipeline benefits them? No one has offered any reason to how this benefits Russia.
     
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    I don't think he has the moxie necessary for such a move.
     
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    Because. White supremacy! that's why
     
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    Why would anyone want to sabotage the pipeline? Someday, after the conflict in Ukraine is ended, it still could be of enormous benefit to western Europeans and Russia alike... if the world doesn't become engulfed in a world war first....
     
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    I guess this is what Europe gets for not putting their own countries first and begging others for energy. USA will be there real quick...oh wait, we already are!
     
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    His words.... not mine..... and it matters not what you or I take from the comment..
    It does to the man with the nukes getting his knees knocked out from under him for a totally mucked up move to invade Ukraine... We are in the war with Russia by proxy...

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...tatement-by-president-biden-on-nord-stream-2/

    Statement by President Biden on Nord Stream 2
    FEBRUARY 23, 2022•STATEMENTS AND RELEASES


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    Insane neocons/neolibs in our state department foaming at the mouth for a world war would be the most productive place to look. Not only do these clowns have a motive, they have the means. IMHO, this is capital crime, all those involved should pay for this infamy with their lives. We are the evil empire, so of course the MSM will run cover for them as they did throughout the Covid disaster.

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    After reading the thread, I know what he said.

    I am simply putting forth my opinion that despite his prior words and whatever perception that may come from his words, deep down, I do not think he has the moxie for such a move. I am not taking up for the man. I think that he is wholly incompetent.
     
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    Tucker Carlson is a blind partisan hater.
    Damaging the DP and Biden have been his highest priority since the attacks on his family and home. So, yes, IMO he is acting as a Russian asset and undermining his credibility with every one of his absurd attacks on Ukraine and Zelensky.
     
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    ""It makes no sense for Biden to damage the pipeline""... listen to the man in the video... he is literally saying he is going to damage the pipeline somehow... either physically or through other means... it is all in how PUTIN interprets his meaning.... not you or I...

    Help me out......I have yet to see any other world leader threatening the Nord Stream pipeline.. these are very strong words... did he carry out this promise he made to that reporter on public TV?
    “There will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it””
    “How will you do that exactly”
    “I promise you we will be able to do it”

     
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    Human beings are routinely incompetent. It would be hard to prove that Biden has been more incompetent than other political leaders, and Biden's many decades of experience in high office have crafted remarkably tough, blunt, ruthless, and often very effective politician.
    IMO, Biden has served the interests of the USA and its allies very well during the Russian invasion of Ukraine in spite of foot dragging by his staff and the permanent bureaucracy.
     
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    Tucker is just the messenger here.... Biden said those words, not Tucker.... words have meanings

    “There will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it””
    “How will you do that exactly”
    “I promise you we will be able to do it”
     
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