Kyiv:Ukrainian forces advance deep into Russian Defense lines in Kharkiv region.

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    Great pics. Thank you.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways



      • The Kremlin is attempting to message its way out of the reality of major problems in the execution of its “partial mobilization,” but its narratives are unlikely to placate Russians who can perceive the real mistakes all around them.
      • The Kremlin’s planned annexation of occupied Ukraine may take place before or shortly after October 1, the start of Russia’s normal fall conscription cycle, to enable the forced conscription of Ukrainian civilians to fight against Ukraine.
      • Ukrainian forces continued to make advances north of Lyman and on the eastern bank of the Oskil River.
      • Ukrainian forces continued to target Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) as part of the southern counter-offensive interdiction campaign.
      • Russian forces continued conducting offensive operations around Bakhmut and west of Donetsk City.
      • Russian forces continued to use Iranian-made drones to strike Ukrainian forces and cities in southern Ukraine.
      • The Kremlin may be considering formally closing its borders or more formally restricting the movement of fighting-age men within the country to better implement partial mobilization.
      • Russian occupation authorities began to announce that the results of their sham annexation referenda, citing flagrantly falsified turnout numbers. . . .
    The Kremlin’s efforts to calm the Russian population are struggling so far, as protests occurred in at least 35 settlements on September 25 and at least 10 settlements on September 26.[6] Russian police continue to suppress protests, notably detaining several hundred women in Yakutsk, Republic of Sakha.[7] Russian police also fired warning shots at anti-mobilization protestors in Endirei, a village of approximately 7,900 people in the Republic of Dagestan.[8] Russians set Russian military enlistment centers on fire in Uryupinsk, Volgograd Oblast and Ruzaevka, Mordovia Republic.[9] A detained student also attempted to set on fire a building that had a military registration and enlistment office sign in St. Petersburg even though the building itself was not a military enlistment office.[10] Some mobilized men harmed themselves to protest the mobilization, with one Russian man setting himself on fire in Ryazan Oblast.[11] . . .

    The Ukrainian counter-offensive in Kharkiv and northern Donetsk Oblasts continued to make gains near Lyman on September 25 and September 26. Ukrainian forces likely captured Maliivka, Kharkiv Oblast, (25 km northwest of Lyman) on September 25.[27] Several Russian milbloggers reported that Ukrainian forces captured Shandryholove (12 km northwest of Lyman), Karpivka (20 km northwest of Lyman), and Nove (19 km north of Lyman), in Donetsk Oblast on September 26.[28] Some Russian reports claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian attacks on Shandryholove, though ISW cannot confirm these reports at this time.[29] Russian sources stated that Ukrainian forces expanded the Ukrainian bridgehead north of Drobysheve and seek to encircle Russian forces in Lyman from the northwest via Nove, Stavky and Kolodyazi.[30] A Russian milblogger reported that Ukrainian forces are shelling Lyman itself with artillery.[31] . . .

    Ukrainian military officials maintained operational silence about the progress of Ukraine’s southern counter-offensive on September 25 and September 26. Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command reported that Russian forces are mining areas of potential Ukrainian advances, which indicates that Russian forces are likely prioritizing maintaining defensive positions rather than attempting to resume offensive operations in the south.[34]

    Ukrainian forces maintained their interdiction campaign, targeting Russian ground lines of communications (GLOCs) and key positions. Ukrainian military officials reported that Ukrainian forces continued to target bridges and emerging alternative crossings over the Dnipro River.[35] Ukrainian forces continued to target Russian positions in Kherson City and reportedly struck an unspecified Rosgvardia target within the city.[36] Ukrainian and Russian sources also reported that a Ukrainian strike on a hotel in Kherson City killed a Ukrainian collaborator, Oleksiy Zhuravko.[37] Ukrainian officials and social media reports noted that Ukrainian forces struck a military convoy, shot down an Su-25 attack aircraft, and destroyed an ammunition warehouse and command post in Beryslav Raion.[38] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command also reported that Ukrainian forces destroyed ammunition depots in Bezimenne, Ternovi Posy, Kalynivka, and on the Kinburn Spit.[39] . . .
     
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    One man who had received a conscription notice set himself on fire at a bus station after screaming he did not want to go fight in Ukraine. But our Putin propaganda trolls keep claiming moral is high and everyone wants to go die for Putin's war of aggression.
     
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    IQ test.
     
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    The Iranian missiles missed their target and not a single person was injured. That doesn't sound very accurate to me.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnew...t-us-consulate-north-iraq-casualties-83412862
     
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    I don't worry about Iranian missiles. Nothing has been tested that could reach the USA. But they don't need it. The idea that ICBM's are needed to deliver nukes is an irrelevant leftover from the Cold War when we thought it essential to hit Soviet solos before they could launch. That has no meaning today. Iran can use cargo ships and fishing vessels to deliver nukes to our homeland. No hurry.

    The thing that really scares me is that while MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) has deterred Russia and China for 70 years and still does, MAD means nothing to Iran. Their focus is on PARADISE, not THIS WORLD. This world is just a foyer, an entranceway to PARADISE. This life means nothing at all. Killing "infidels" is the key to getting into PARADISE and WE are "infidels". Bad situation.
     
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    The Ukrainian Army Reportedly Destroyed Another Russian Division
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian President Vladimir Putin will likely announce the Russian annexation of occupied Ukrainian territory on September 30 after Russian officials completed their falsified “referenda” on September 27.
    • Russian forces are reportedly committing newly-mobilized Western Military District (WMD) men to the Kherson and Kharkiv Oblast frontlines without prior training.
    • Ukrainian forces are consolidating their positions on the eastern bank of the Oskil river and made further gains on the outskirts of Lyman.
    • Ukrainian forces continued to target Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) as part of the southern counter-offensive interdiction campaign, particularly disrupting Russian efforts to build barge crossings.
    • Russian forces continued unsuccessful offensive operations around Bakhmut and west of Donetsk City, increasingly leveraging penal units.
    • Russian forces inflicted severe damage on a Ukrainian airfield in Kryvyi Rih and continued routine air and missile strikes across southern Ukraine.
    • Russian authorities are establishing checkpoints at Russia’s borders to forcibly mobilize Russian men who are seeking to avoid forced mobilization by fleeing the country.
    • Russian officials are setting conditions to forcibly mobilize or conscript Ukrainian civilians in soon-to-be annexed areas of occupied Ukraine.
    • The Russian annexation of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk will likely exacerbate tensions within DNR and LNR forces, who regularly mutiny when asked to fight outside the borders of their own oblasts.
    • Russian officials may attempt to reframe their invasion of Ukraine and occupation of soon-to-be-annexed Ukrainian territory as a “counterterrorism operation.”. . . .

    Ukrainian forces conducted operations to consolidate their positions on the eastern bank of the Oskil River north of Kupyansk on September 27. Ukrainian officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces liberated Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi (just east of Kupyansk), which reportedly serves as one of the largest railway nodes in Kharkiv Oblast.[11] Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces also continued to advance in the direction of Tavilizhanka (approximately 18km northeast of Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi on the Oskil River’s eastern bank) and have secured positions northwest of the settlement.[12] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces continued to shell Kucherivka and Petropavlivka (east of Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi) and Dvorichna (west of Tavilizhanka).[13] Social media footage also showed the aftermath of a Russian strike on Kupyansk.[14]

    Ukrainian forces continued to advance northwest of Lyman on September 26 and September 27. Ukrainian local officials announced that Ukrainian forces liberated Pisky-Radkivski (approximately 35km northwest of Lyman) on September 26, but noted that Ukrainian forces are still clearing the settlement.[15] Local officials stated they could freely travel between Lozove and Rubtsi, which further indicates that Ukrainian forces have secured some positions northwest of Lyman. Ukrainian journalist Andrii Tsaplienko reported that Ukrainian forces have liberated Ridkodub (20km north of Lyman), and geolocated footage depicts Ukrainian forces moving through the settlement.[16] Russian milbloggers also claimed that Ukrainian forces recaptured Katerynivka and secured their positions in Nove, both east of Ridkodub.[17] Geolocated footage also showed Ukrainian forces entering Korovii Yar, about 20km due northwest of Lyman.[18]

    Russian sources are reporting that Ukrainian artillery fire is successfully interdicting Russian forces’ last logistic route to Lyman, running through Svatove-Makiivka-Terny north of the settlement.[19] Russian milbloggers also claimed to witness Ukrainian reconnaissance and sabotage groups in Torske and Yampil, 14km northeast and 13km southeast of Lyman, respectively.[20] . . .

    Ukrainian military officials maintained their operational silence on September 27 and stated that Ukrainian forces are continuing their interdiction campaign in southern Ukraine. Ukrainian military officials noted that Russian forces are continuing to regroup units in the area and have closed entry and exit to Kherson Oblast, possibly to prevent individual Russian deserters and Ukrainian men of fighting age from fleeing to Ukrainian-controlled territory.[21] . . .
     
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    Video Shows Counterattack That Led to Capture of 2 Russian Majors: Ukraine
     
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    I, for one, appreciate your timely updates. I'm a career Soldier and see some things that I simply do not understand. Perhaps you can help?
    Generally, why has the Ukraine infrastructure been left so intact? The first thing we did when we invaded Iraq was to disable the infrastructure.
    - We disabled Iraqi power plants by clobbering the distribution systems, while leaving the generation facilities intact so they could be started up when the war ended. I drove past a small building outside a huge generation plant most days. seeing it had been flattened so that no energy could be used. Why do the Ukrainians have any electricity at all?
    - Why is the Ukrainian internet intact? Admittedly, the original, military use of f the internet was to provide an "uninterruptible" messaging system, but still... there are crucial points which could be demolished to degrade internet use. Why was this never done?
    - Why are Ukrainian trains still running? Knocking out key bridges and transportation nodes is a key element to prepping any invasion for over a hundred years.
    - Why are Ukrainian telephones still operable? Satellite phones are tough to knock out, but those reliant on "towers" can be disabled. Why are the still functioning?

    Can you explain what's going on?
     
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    In Iraq we were there to achieve an objective, not to nationalize the territory and take it in to ourself.
    Russia is in Ukraine for a land grab. If they destroy all the infrastructure it makes it an expense, a burden rather than a boon.
    Recall: Putin thought he was going to wrap this **** up in 30 days or less because he's a delusional crazy person.
     
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    Cross-border rockets are no big deal. INTERCONTINENTAL (ICBM) MISSILES... are a big deal.
     
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    They're only a big deal when they hit what you're aiming them at.

    Additionally: Intercontinental Ballistic ROCKET, not missile. If you can't hit your target with guidance, its a rocket not a missile.
     
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    You don't have to DESTROY the infrastructure to DISABLE it. I cited an example of a huge power plant near where I was stationed my first tour in Iraq. The HUGE plant was essentially untouched. But the small building that provided DISTRIBUTION was flattened. This disconnected the actual plant from the outside world. The small distribution building was rebuilt and up and running about a week after hostilities ended. This strategy can be used to disable most facets of the "infrastructure". Cratering airfields to make them unusable is another example of disabling the infrastructure in ways that can be fixed in short order when hostilities end.
    Why didn't the Russians do these things? Something smells fishy.
     
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    Russias professional soldiers about those mobilised in Ukraine: "To be honest, they will all die there"
    Ukrainska Pravda
    Wed, September 28, 2022 at 8:25 AM

    STANISLAV POHORILOV — WEDNESDAY, 28 SEPTEMBER 2022, 16:25

    Russian professional soldiers and mercenaries who have fought at the front [in Ukraine] told the media that nothing good awaits the mobilised in Ukraine; most of them will die. The full names of the soldiers and mercenaries are not disclosed for obvious reasons.

    Source: [Russian outlet] Meduza

    Quotes:

    Kyrylo, a professional soldier: "To be honest, they will all die there [in Ukraine]. They are going to get hurt and die. This is not a trained army! For example, I have been serving [on a contract] for a long time, and fought my way [to the front] – and still turned out to be not ready. On the very first day, I realised that I had made the biggest mistake of my life."

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/russias-professional-soldiers-those-mobilised-132554420.html
     
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    There are no such thing as "ICBR's" to my knowledge. Rockets are inherently inaccurate and classified as "area" weapons. Missiles are terminally guided and are precision weapons. Anything unguided, like a rocket, has a huge CEP (Circular Error Probable) and its pure luck if it gets close to the target.
     
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    Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia is up to lose their army in Lyman | Glory to Ukraine!
     
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    Ukrainian woman reveals the question Russian soldiers 'always' asked
     
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    Russians lack capability and strategic vision. I doubt they have the intel to degrade internet use.
     
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    A Russian last stand may be at hand.

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    Ukraine Troops Encircling Russian Forces as Putin Faces Major Defeat
     
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    Even a blind cornered snake) is dangerous until you cut his head off.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian military leadership has likely failed to set information conditions for the potential defeat of the Russian grouping in Lyman, despite increasingly concerned discourse among Russian milbloggers regarding the potential for a Ukrainian envelopment of Lyman.
    • The Kremlin could temporarily postpone announcing the annexation of Russian-occupied Ukrainian territory to better prepare the Russian information space and administrative organization, although September 30 remains the most likely date for some kind of annexation announcement.
    • Russian authorities continue to send newly-mobilized and undertrained recruits to directly reinforce severely degraded remnants of various units, including units that were previously considered to be Russia’s premier conventional fighting forces.
    • Ukrainian forces likely continued to make significant gains around Lyman on September 28, advancing from the north along the Zelena Dolyna-Kolodiazi arc and from the southeast around Yampil.
    • Ukrainian military officials largely maintained operational silence regarding specific Ukrainian actions in Kherson Oblast on September 28 but stated that Ukrainian troops are continuing positional battles in unspecified locations to consolidate and improve their positions along the Southern Axis.
    • Russian forces continued unsuccessful ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian military recruitment officials are openly contradicting the Kremlin’s publicly-stated guidelines for mobilization to meet quota requirements even as Kremlin propaganda is attempting to change the public perception of partial mobilization.
    • Russian authorities are beginning to restrict movement of Russian citizens into Russian border regions to cope with hundreds of thousands of Russian men attempting to flee the country. . . .

    Russian milbloggers discussed Ukrainian gains around Lyman with increased concern on September 28, suggesting that Russian forces in this area may face imminent defeat.[1] Several Russian milbloggers and prominent military correspondents claimed that Ukrainian troops advanced west, north, and northeast of Lyman and are working to complete the envelopment of Russian troops in Lyman and along the northern bank of the Siverskyi Donets River in this area.[2] Russian mibloggers stated that Ukrainian troops are threatening Russian positions and lines of communication that support the Lyman grouping. The collapse of the Lyman pocket will likely be highly consequential to the Russian grouping in northern Donetsk and western Luhansk oblasts and may allow Ukrainian troops to threaten Russian positions along the western Luhansk Oblast border and in the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk area.

    Russian military leadership has failed to set information conditions for potentially imminent Russian defeat in Lyman. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not addressed current Russian losses around Lyman or prepared for the collapse of this sector of the frontline, which will likely further reduce already-low Russian morale. Russian military authorities previously failed to set sufficient information conditions for Russian losses following the first stages of the Ukrainian counteroffensives in Kharkiv Oblast, devastating morale and leading to panic among Russian forces across the Eastern axis. The subsequent ire of the Russian nationalist information space likely played a role in driving the Kremlin to order partial mobilization in the days following Ukraine’s initial sweeping counteroffensive in a haphazard attempt to reinforce Russian lines. Future Ukrainian gains around critical areas in Donetsk and Luhansk Oblast may drive additional wedges between Russian nationalists and military leadership, and between Russian forces and their superiors. . . .

    Ukrainian military officials largely maintained operational silence regarding specific Ukrainian actions in Kherson Oblast on September 28 but stated that Ukrainian troops are continuing positional battles in unspecified locations to consolidate and improve their positions along the Southern Axis.[21] Ukrainian military officials also reiterated that Ukrainian troops are continuing an interdiction campaign to target Russian logistics, military, and transportation assets, as well as concentration areas, in Kherson Oblast.[22] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command stated that Russian forces are pulling reserves from the Crimean direction to reinforce the current southern frontline against Ukrainian counteroffensive operations.[23] . . . .
     
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    Like sending little league players in to replace pro baseball players.
     
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    War in Ukraine: Veteran Russian diplomat reveals Kremlin's plan | Conflict Zone


    Boris Bondarev was until May of 2022 a Russian diplomat working in the foreign ministry and posted to Moscow’s mission to the United Nations activities in Geneva.

    Disgusted with the war, Bondarev publicly resigned and criticized the war unleashed by Vladimir Putin.

    Sham "referendums" in occupied regions of Ukraine, a mobilization of Russian conscripts and more nuclear threats from the Kremlin don't indicate a Russian victory anytime soon.

    With protests spreading in Russia, and hundreds of thousands fleeing conscription, how much has the catastrophic war in Ukraine undermined Vladimir Putin's hold on power?

    Bondarev spoke to Tim Sebastian from an undisclosed location about the future of the Putin regime.

    "He's put himself in a situation where there are no good exits," Bondarev said.

    How real is the nuclear threat? How to do Russian officials expect the West would respond to a nuclear strike from Moscow?​
     
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