'Take your a** home!' Heavily-armed black rights groups march through Austin chanting anti-illegal m

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Being a dumbass is not illegal. Learn how the 1st amendment works.

    Match it to the requirements of Brandenburg v Ohio then. Make the argument.

    You watch too much seinfeld.
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/o...a/news-story/68f4acdbf2b0b4e6c799e458a55e6cb2
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/necklacing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing
    But Mandela was no Christ nor even Gandhi nor Martin Luther King. He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.

    He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.



    Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - a burning tyre around the neck.

    Mandela argued the apartheid regime left him no option but to fight violence with violence, but it is too easy to claim events proved him right. His legacy is not yet played out.
     
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    Just like the USA prez who dropped the nukes is a hero to some but a terrorist to others. It depends on who you're batting for clearly.
     
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    Performing the actions of a dumbass can be though, and support can be more then just using your voice.
     
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    Nope. Once again an inaccurate assessment.
     
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    Declared war where the persons you're dropping the bomb on confess that they will fight to the death and/or suicide rather than give up vs you will vote the way I tell you or I'll set you on fire as a traitor for a political disagreement.

    One is hostilities between nations, and one is using a terror tactic to gain political control.
    Dude literally pled guilty and threatened to cut people's noses off or light them on fire.
    Enough.
     
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    The actions described do not come anywhere near qualifying.
    Full stop.
     
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    I understand that other people's rights are not and should not be constrained by my comfort level. So I guess I am OK with it. Just sorry, the leaders of either party did not make an attempt before or after to engage these people in a discussion and acknowledge the issues that concern them.
     
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    keep telling yourself that
     
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    can we leave zelensky out of this for a second?
     
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    Stop paying people not to work. Problem solved.
     
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    Care to document your assertion with some facts. What do you think the cost is illegals and how exactly do we profit. And the cost of illegals is not just the Federal welfare, it is local costs as well such as have schools, courts, etc. that have to support multiple languages. We saw how the liberal love of illegals works when they were shipped to Marth's Vineyard. lol
     
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    So do these illegals working depress wages in accordance with the law of supply and demand?
     
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    Yes, everything is so simple.
     
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    no
     
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    And here I thought all the violence and looting was by the Amish!
     
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    Says who?
     
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    Imagine if Dem leaders had engaged in a discussion about reparations!
     
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    Theoretically it could.
    But if the wages are increased, the production of the goods or service cost more, and the price goes up.
     
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    It may clarify it, but it does not overturn it. It really depends on state law and how "show cause" is actually used.

    Restrictions on carrying still exist, depending on the state. For starters, you can't generally bring in the concealed carry into federal buildings or state/federal courthouses in most states. Private businesses may publish signs to not allow concealed carry or no firearms whatsoever. Some private businesses may include movie theaters, bars, or even retail shops with high-valued merchandise such as jewelry stores. and so forth. You still can't bring firearms, even in the State of Texas, onto school grounds in elementary or secondary schools unless you have permission from the state and are trained, if that school district so chooses, according to Texas State Law.

    Various states have different concealed carry laws and some are still a shall-issue state such as SC, Florida, and Georgia. It is not as universal as you think it is, legally.
     
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    .No. It doesn't. Bruen ruled 'show cause", as inherently unconstitutional.

    (c) The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not “a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.” McDonald, 561 U. S., at 780 (plurality opinion). The exercise of other constitutional rights does not require individuals to demonstrate to government officers some special need. The Second Amendment right to carry arms in public for self-defense is no different. New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Fourteenth Amendment by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms in public
     
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    Do you normally cut and paste without thinking? Or is this a family genetic defect of yours? As for being an attorney, that still does not impress me and I will treat you as if you are Sidney Powell.

    For starters, let's look at willing criminal conspiracy. For that specific statute, it occurs when a person, with the intent, that a felony be committed: agrees with one or more persons that they or one or more of them engage in conduct that would constitute the offense. So if a person is willing to talk about killing people in public and the group agrees with the person leading the group making the claim to kill people. Looks like it meets the requirements of agreeing with one or more persons to engage in conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, aka homicide. So with 22.07, it states: "(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to:

    (1) cause a reaction of any type to his threat by an official or volunteer agency organized to deal with emergencies;

    (2) place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury;


    (3) prevent or interrupt the occupation or use of a building, room, place of assembly, place to which the public has access, place of employment or occupation, aircraft, automobile, or other form of conveyance, or other public place;

    (4) cause impairment or interruption of public communications, public transportation, public water, gas, or power supply or other public service;

    (5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury;  or

    (6) influence the conduct or activities of a branch or agency of the federal government, the state, or a political subdivision of the state.

    With the statute and not the generic statute you are quoting, the conspiracy theory applies for A2 because the statements will put a reasonable fear of harm or imminent serious bodily injury because they threatened to shoot people, unprovoked I might add. Being illegal is not provoking anyone under Texas or federal law. especially Title 8 I might add.

    As far as proving, yes, that will occur in a court of law, but that is enough probable cause for an investigation by police and other law enforcement personnel. But I guess if they were promoting the same and said "white males by going postal" you would still say they have not committed any violations or claim they had a right to say what they say. Or will you change your mind if the facts and circumstances were ever so different?
     
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    If you were not clear in your post, I am not a mind reader and only go with what you posted. Nothing more, nothing less. Second, you continue to make the same illogical argument, "Start kicking people off of it that can work but refuse to" shows your true uneducated position on those who are on welfare. The elderly can still work, just need to define what they can work, right? Children can work, can they? How about disabled? Yes, they can work too by licking envelopes for a living, right? As for the parents who receive SNAP benefits for their children, they are already working according to this article. So, you now want them to work two jobs now so that they can get off welfare? Or do you want those who are on welfare to only accept unsafe working environments as a condition?

    The problem with your argument is you are focusing on the wrong end of the totem pole. It is not the people who are on welfare, it's the job, pay, education, job skills, and experience, among other things, that are the key. Focus on that and you can get the people off welfare more ethically than that garbage you posted.
     
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    Why? Seems to work for a war between nations example. What occurs between Russia and Ukraine is a war between nations.
     
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    The 14th amendment the Court is citing is equal protection. It does not mean it was universally unconstitutional. States that have a show cause can still make that argument if it is not construed as with New York's law, or California's law or Georgia's Law or Florida's law. They are all Shall Issue and issue a permit for concealed carry or even open carry does not violate the infringement clause of the 2a. That deals specifically with ownership and which firearms can a person purchase legally, even with a FFL that may be required for some types of firearms. An FFL is a type of "show cause" license and that is still constitional.
     

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