Mystery leaks (sabotage) hit Russian (Nordstream 1 and 2) undersea gas pipelines to Europe

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I think we agree on much.
    I have found the new cable channel News Nation not half bad.
     
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    I suppose if a little old lady was standing near a burning building, you call her an arsonist?
     
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    False. It didn't begin with Fox News. In fact, Fox News itself was founded as a response to liberal bias by CNN.
     
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    I blamed Hillary for REFUSING to call them terrorists (most likely ISIS's first attack, and the beginning of a wave of terrorist violence that I also predicted here, after the way Obama/Biden withdrew from Iraq), and sticking to the "spontaneous mob" line, thus protecting themselves from acknowledging a new ruthless terrorist enemy right before the election, AND robbing those who died of the honor they deserved for being killed by the enemy.
     
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    I suspect it was more akin to creationists wanting to "teach the controversy" in high school science class, though.
     
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    You are being willfully blind to the leftist media's misinformation.
     
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    I'll check them out.
     
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    I thought of that, and looked at the map. I would have went like 60%. But perhaps the method wasn't suited to the depth there. But I still fail to see how it benefits Russia.
     
  9. Durandal

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    You can't even cite such misinformation. It does not exist.
     
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    they called them terrorists, just the right did not want to blame the terrorists
     
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    Please see #285.
     
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    Well there is that….but i’m still not sure it makes much sense for your theory of the yanks pottering round the Baltic knocking holes in pipes??
     
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    There are many, many examples, but you're unwilling to, or perhaps incapable of, considering them objectively, so listing them out would be a waste of both our times.
     
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    I agree that your government, aka Russia, is the expert practitioner of false flags.

    Case in point:

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/stunn...ill-civilians-and-an-utter-disdain-for-putin/

     
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    Nope. Had to do with coverage of administration controversies.
     
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    Coming from you, I'm simply highly skeptical.
     
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    Pre Monica?
     
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    I remember, they did not, for months. Until after the election.
     
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    Yes, I know this. So it's not ok for Russia to hold a grip on Ukraine, but it is ok for the US to have one? Can we connect any dots yet? Ukraine is America's puppet country.
     
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    Ukrainians will make their own decisions. That's what the war is about.
     
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    You're not getting what I'm saying: The DPA allows the feds to throw money at a problem of strategic level interest, particularly during open hostilities which is what would happen if the russians attacked that cable.
    They can simply have starlink produce far more satellites, and even use other companies to get that done. They can, likewise, use other couriers to get those objects up and running.

    It would be an issue, but its not crippling.
     
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    Yes, as they did during the referendums, WITHOUT guns to their heads as many purvey. But they weren't Ukrainians, they are Russians living on Russian land, the only thing that made them Ukies was a line on a map.
     

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