Ukraine referendum

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I like to because they need air. The lack of oxygen makes them think and perceive irrationally.
     
  2. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    So, this means you're damned then. Maybe next time, if there is one.
     
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    Yes they are in it to make money, but also to deny any truth from escaping into the minds of the masses.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    yeah, I anticipate your ill-informed response.
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're either saying that because you think it will discredit him, or you have a poor awareness or how people of different languages and cultures think.


    They've proven themselves otherwise many times, that is unless you feel they're being paid to remove certain contents?


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    and run along so proud and bold,
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    the lies of what they're telling me.

    For should we dare to doubt their word,
    we'd lose the comfort of our herd.

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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    thee, instead of "me" would have worked too. :)
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think one has to relate to others in order to become aware of what our nation is doing. Oddly enough, even when our country lied, I ignored it assuming it was the party in office such as Bill Clinton with the bombing of Serbia, or they were being pressured by the Deep State such as Pres. Bush with Iraq. It took the war in Syria to make me come to my senses.

    Assad was the most secular and all inclusive leader in the Middle East, and I had met people who were so thrilled with the all inclusive nation he created, that they were moving back. That was right before the war broke out. We were supporting terrorists in Syria while pretending otherwise, even though they were committing genocide on minorities, (mostly Christians) in order to overthrow him.

    Whenever Assad's army was winning a battle and there was a possibility the war would end, we had the White Helmets, who were part of Al Queda and who we were bankrolling, commit a false flag terrorist attack. That way we could bomb Assad's army and the war could go on I guess until the last Syrian. Kind of like Ukraine..
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe they were formed by the same thoughts, I don't know. Even if they were, they certainly weren't formed by Middle Eastern Jews so the culture and the Enlightenment had a lot to do with it. I used to watch Jewish programs when I was younger because I liked the Yiddish movies, (I don't know Yiddish but they were very talented), so whatever I know came from there and from other Jews as well.

    Frankly I don't believe in communism or capitalism, but I do believe in free enterprise and individual rights and that nothing should be imposed on others - which is probably the Orthodox Christian in me and why I can relate to Vladimir Putin.
     
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    Many thanks for your honest confession.

    But I don't understand how a Christian can like Warlord Putin. Christianity is deeply pacifist, that is its most outstanding characteristic. On the other hand, Putin's soldiers are brutal mass murderers and looters, which Putin approves. :(

    How do Christians deal with that? The only possible solution seems to be denial. How do you deal with it?
     
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    This forum is more than videos. You could refer to a specific spot in the video and quote or paraphrase it.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    How specific can you be for the entirety of the video?
     
  12. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I like the term, "removed the blindfold".
     
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    Religious claptrap.
    He's a fascist.
    There may be an intelligent creator (I doubt it), but it isn't the Biblical deity.
    The "Deep State" is a figment of rightwingers' imaginations.
    Righteous? He's responsible for war crimes against Ukrainians, Georgians and others.
    I'd be happy to deal with U.S. conduct, but none of it justifies Russian aggression against its neighbors.
    The EU isn't going to collapse.

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    https://www.oecd.org/economic-outlook/september-2022/#global-outlook
     
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    Summarize the most important information.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not.

    Prove it.

    Your opinion/perspective, maybe.

    No, it's not. Only those who have their blindfolds on will say that, because they can't see the dots that are there to connect because they live by MSM.

    Really? Because MSM said so? Have you considered CIA involvement? Of course not, because the Deep State doesn't exist.

    So, you're ok with the US knocking on the doors of many countries, based on false flags and narratives to justify their invasions? But Russia can't/is forbidden to act when it has actual justifiable means? Means by that of NATO's encroachment on Russian borders and with the genocide done to the Russian people that live within the boundaries of Ukraine?

    Oh, it's an outlook, a forecast. And what are forecasts and outlooks based on? Past performances. So the information/data is speculative only. But you can cuddle up at night thing the EU will be fine, particularly when you have Nuland and Pyatt talking and Nuland saying to Pyatt, "fck the EU" this was in 2014. Take a listen. The US is using Ukraine/NATO and the EU. Everyone's a puppet except for a few, they include Putin and Xi.

    https://rumble.com/vwjn3v-2014-ukraine-coup-victoria-nuland-geoffrey-pyatt-leaked-phone.html
     
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    Well, let's start with, all of it. Because everything is interconnected. One specific piece can't be understood with any of the others. So, it's the whole shebang.
     
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    You have no idea what you're talking about. I had two uncles—father's brother and mother's brother—who advised three U.S. Presidents, one who saw two of the Presidents every day. I knew them before they were Presidential advisors. Both would never betray their country by being part of a conspiracy.
    As I said, I'm prepared to address U.S. actions and policy, but our actions in no way justify or excuse Russia attacking or threatening its neighbors.
    NATO is not "encroaching" on Russian borders. Your claim of genocide are ridiculous.
     
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    You're saying you can't comment on the video while commenting on it.

    Hooooh-Kayyyyy. :roll: :roll:
     
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    Liberals only like democracy when it gives them the results they desire.
     
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    You're merely repeating the MSM lies. If Putin did otherwise he would be allowing the genocide of the Russian people in Ukraine. I don't know if you ever heard of the radical and 'Satanist' Saul Alinsky, but you certainly have heard of Karl Marx.

    Karl Marx: “Accuse Your Enemy of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing it to Create Confusion”
    Well Saul's policy was the same and Hillary and many of their Democrat constituents are followers. Today these same policies are being used not only domestically, but in our foreign policy. As an example, Yesterday I read of an attack on a convoy of refugees leaving Kharkov for a Russian area so as not to be held as human shields by the Ukrainian Nazis, About 30 were killed including children.

    So today what did what did I find in the MSM? That the Russians attacked and killed them. In other words they killed the same people whose lives they wanted to save. This isn't unusual though. What I read in the foreign papers is flipped the next day in the MSM. so that it becomes the exact opposite of reality.

    The latest is that Nato is conducting its own investigating of who destroyed the Russian pipeline, so even though Biden said he will destroy them and that we have the means to, and even though Nuland said the same thing, they will now blame Russia. According to Nato it's not the American ships that were in the waters but Russian ones. Let's see what other garbage they will come up with and if the German people will believe them since they're the ones that will suffer.




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    to talk of fame and villainous gain,


    by terror, lies and gross deceits,
    and of this world's destructive feats.


    And how to spread them far and wide,
    through corrupt souls and satanic lies.

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    most people are not even aware that they are living inside of the bubble created by the powers that be. the puppet masters themselves are fully aware of the bubble, thats why they are bent in keeping the masses trapped inside of it.
     
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    thats what the bubble preaches, using msm. those outside of the cult know better though and see with their own eyes how nato is bankrolling ukrainian aggression towards russia.
     
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    .....you guys have been on the piss today haven't you....bit to much to "refreshment" after the signing ceremony......what's on the menu this evening then? I'd bet a few more bottles of the same and then back to the hotel room with some leggy lass in black stocks and high heels.... :D
     
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    the argument works both ways, regarding ethnic cleansing, plus it is a war after all. these things happen when entire nations are involved.
     
  25. The Scotsman

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    ...only if you accept their premise as a viable scenario....which it isn't... its a load of wank
     

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