Germany's armed forces must become the best-equipped military force in Europe, says Scholz | DW News

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  1. Dayton3

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    There were collaborators in all European countries including Russia. That is not an excuse just a fact. The Russians and Stalin amplified the accusation about Ukrainian collaboration and of course Russians still do and as you see Putin told that lie so often that Russian soldiers who were captured by the Ukrainian army admitted that could not find the NAZIs Putin said were in Ukraine.

    The founder of the Azov battalion had made statements about fighting for the white race. He is supposed to have toned that crap Dow. Most of the members of Azov are from Eastern Ukraine and they were based in Marriopol. They speak Russian and not Ukrainian they are mostly from Donbas and Luhansk and we’re formed in 2014 to fight the proRussian militia.
    Israel owns Russia a continuing favor for letting Israel fight its enemies in Syria. That is why Israel is not keen on giving weapons to Ukraine. Azov are fierce fighters and Zalenskyy needs them at least for now. There are foreign fighters with Azov including Russians, Croats, xSerbs, French, and a German or two.hu
    That is an explanation not an excuse.
     
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    When a person says they are a Nazi, I tend to believe them.
     
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    No one lied about WMDs in Iraq.

    If your surgeon looks at your test results and announces that you have cancer, and after surgery the tumor turns out to be benign that doesn't mean he lied about you having cancer.
     
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    So you believe Nazis when it fits your preconceived ideas
     
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    Yes, I'm sure all those Ukrainians wearing Nazi symbols, giving Nazi salutes, celebrating Nazi collaborators like Stephen Bandera, are just doing it for the style points.
     
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    Nope, they're normal Ukrainian citizens, misguided and forced by pro-ruZZian warlords to turn their back against their homeland. :(
     
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    The entire US political establishment lied about it repeatedly for months on end.
     
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    I believe Nazis when they say they are a Nazi, yes.
     
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    Durandal thinks the Iraq war wasn't based on lies... lol
     
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    No wonder your country descended into Nazism so readily. You guys will believe just about anything.
     
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    As I've pointed out it wasn't.

    Claiming the Bush Admin. lied about the presence of WMDs in Iraq defies all logic.

    To believe that you have to believe that:.

    1) The Bush Admin. lied about WMDs in Iraq.
    2) And used those lies to justify the invasion of Iraq.
    3) An invasion that inevitably exposed those "lies" about WMDs for all the world to see.
     
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    Germans love themselves a good rally. It's been a long time since they've had an excuse. I guess the war in Ukraine is just what they needed.
     
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    And Ethereal utilizes whataboutism to downplay Pooteens senseless war of aggression. :(
     
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    Since when do the elites care about getting caught in a lie?
     
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    [QUOTE="Ethereal, post: 1073757717, member: 50331"l]I believe Nazis when they say they are a Nazi, yes.[/QUOTE]

    And if a woman publishes an article title "I Am A Lesbian" do you believe they are in fact a Lesbian?

    If so check out Bill De Blasio's wife.
     
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    Nah, just pointing out the raging hypocrisy of my fellow Americans. It's important that at least one person in America remains honest.
     
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    If she founded a lesbian club full of other lesbians, then absolutely.
     
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    Watching US GOV apologists twist themselves into pretzels is amusing at first, but eventually it just gets depressing. Political forums like this are a stark reminder of just how many stupid people there are in America and why we've fallen so far since 1776.
     
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    Yet the fact remains that she turned out NOT to be a lesbian.

    For that matter Ann Heche.
     
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    We always loved killing ruZZian subhumans.
    Dying orcs always considered good, pure happiness.
    :)
     
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    So I should not believe that a Nazi is a Nazi. Got it.
     
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    Calm down Adolf. Everyone knows you will not be doing any of the fighting and killing yourself.
     
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    The ones who once sported NAZI like symbols are few and not prominent.
    Stefan Bandera was not a collaborator he was sent to a German concentration camp along with other OUN leaders. The Germans did release them when the Germans were retreating in hopes that the Ukrainian Insurgentb Army would fight the Soviets and slow them down so the Germans could run away.

    The Soviets referred to any ethnic group fascists or NAZIS who were nationalists and fought for their right to be independent.
    In the US NAZIs support Trump. Does that mean that all Trump supporters are NAZIs.

    I am no fan of NAZIs. My family members were sent to German forced labor camps. I am no fan of Russia. My family members were also sent Siberia so NAZIs are evil so is Russia.
     
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    You shouldn't simply assume something is what people claim it is. That's awfully gullible of you.

    I thought you believed in questioning things?
     
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