Why are cons ALWAYS on the wrong side of history?

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  1. JonK22

    JonK22 Well-Known Member

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    Got it, you can't point to a single CONservative policy that's worked for the bottom 99% of US either
     
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    You mean your commie nonsense? LMAOROG

    Nope pointing out CONServatives policies almost always fail!
     
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    Sure as the GOP guts revenues AS they blow up spending. Almost like it's a plan or something'
     
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    Agreed tax cuts bringing in more revenues, Trumpism, etc
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your confused about Trumpism, probably your understanding of MAGA. It's "Make America Great Again", not Make America Groan in Agony.
    That's Bidens plan. MAGIA.
     
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    The side of history we are on today is 70% of Americans thinking that the country is headed in the wrong direction. Do you think we are headed in the wrong direction, or do you like paying high prices and being in a recession and on the verge of a nuclear Armageddon?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html
     
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  7. JonK22

    JonK22 Well-Known Member

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    LMAOROG

    Sure that's why the GOP fought to get rid of the estate tax, instead the "left" kept them at $22+ million a couple before taxes kick in, because it's the "right" that believes in meritocracy, lol

    Hint TRICKLE DOWN ISN'T A LEFTY IDEA


    Non-Partisan Congressional Tax Report Debunks Core Conservative Economic Theory-GOP Suppresses Study

    What do you do when the Congressional Research Service, the completely non-partisan arm of the Library of Congress that has been advising Congress—and only Congress—on matters of policy and law for nearly a century, produces a research study that finds absolutely no correlation between the top tax rates and economic growth, thereby destroying a key tenet of conservative economic theory?

    If you are a Republican member of the United States Senate, you do everything in your power to suppress that report—particularly when it comes less than two months before a national election where your candidate is selling this very economic theory as the basis for his candidacy.


    ...The conclusion?

    Lowering the tax rates on the wealthy and top earners in America do not appear to have any impact on the nation’s economic growth.

    This paragraph from the report says it all—

    “The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickun...-theory-gop-suppresses-study/?sh=7014479722e6



    Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations will result in more inequality and larger deficits instead of faster growth and more jobs.
    https://www.americanprogress.org/ar...wasteful-tax-cuts-will-not-boost-the-economy/

    Supply-side’s abject failure
    https://www.epi.org/blog/supply-side-abject-failure/

    Why Trickle-Down Economics Works in Theory But Not in Fact
    https://www.thebalancemoney.com/trickle-down-economics-theory-effect-does-it-work-3305572
     
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    JonK22 Well-Known Member

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    Yet it's the "right" who goes on about Faux "News": being highest rated and your guy Trump who raves about ratings abd crowds, and has probably never read a book all the ways through!
     
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    Reagan, Bush Sr, Dubya and Trump grew Gov't spending. Clinton and Obama cut the deficits

    Your premise that they GOP wants to shrink Gov't has failed to prive true the past 40+ years

    "Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives to limit government spending by cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending. The term "the beast", in this context, refers to the United States federal government and the programs it funds, using mainly American taxpayer dollars, particularly social programs such as education, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid


    Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast


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    Look to how much spending went up under Ronnie, Dubya and Trump (Not here but more than tripled the deficit). CONservatives want "small Gov't? lol
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    Sure

    How offshoring rolled along under Trump, who vowed to stop it
    https://www.reuters.com/business/ho...ong-under-trump-who-vowed-stop-it-2021-01-19/


    The Offshoring of U.S. Jobs Increased on Trump’s Watch
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...st-the-hard-data-on-trump-s-offshoring-record
    During Trump Presidency, 200,000 Jobs Offshored and Corporations Involved Awarded $425 Billion in Federal Contracts
    https://www.commondreams.org/newswi...s-offshored-and-corporations-involved-awarded

    Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts
    Before committing $2 billion to Mr. Kushner’s fledgling firm, officials at a fund led by the Saudi crown prince questioned taking such a big risk.

    Those objections included: “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; the possibility that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk”; due diligence on the fledgling firm’s operations that found them “unsatisfactory in all aspects”; a proposed asset management fee that “seems excessive”; and “public relations risks” from Mr. Kushner’s prior role as a senior adviser to his father-in-law, former President Donald J. Trump, according to minutes of the panel’s meeting last June 30.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.html


    NO PAYWALL LINK
    https://archive.ph/9BxU7


    Biden's deficit is at $1 trillion today

    Biden inherited $2.8 trillion (Trump) deficit

    Trump inherited a $666 billion (Obama) deficit

    Obama inherited a $1.4 trillion (Dubya) deficit

    Dubya inherited a budget surplus of $127 (Clinton) billion

    Clinton inherited a budget deficit of $255 (Sr) billion

    Bush Sr inherited a $153 billion (Ronnie) deficit

    Ronnie inherited a $79 billion (Carter's) deficit

    Notice anything?
     
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    Unlike right wingers who ONLY believe in bumper stickers and bumper sticker mentality, I get the worldwide nature of inflation and the hate Trump/GOP stirs up
     
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    I agree with you none of those people are conservative they did too much spending the way to cut deficits is cut spending deficits only exists because of spending.
    my premise was never about the GOP it was about conservatives. The GOP is not conservative. None of them have ever done anything to reduce the size of government in fact most of them are doing everything in their power to increase it.
    the type of conservative I am I view the government does not having anything they have no revenue they can't they aren't a business the only thing they have is what they steal.

    Taxation is absolutely theft.

    It's a wonder you have no idea what conservative means you don't even have a baseline understanding of it.

    Yeah Reagan bush bush senior Donald Trump they were all spenders.

    So where Obama Clinton and Biden they just steal more.
     
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    GOP=/= conservative.
     
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    So when has the last CON been in charge? Name 5 people in the media you consider a CON the past decade
     
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    Oh you are one of those guys who never grew past 14 and believe in Ayn Rand myths
     
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    Yes, that's their motto alrightie

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    it is because reality has a liberal bias, educated people who learn history are more liberal, the RW calls this indoctrination, and the first poster critical mentioned republicans taking away democrats slaves lol...the RW media is so full of misinformation and slanted lies its almost funny
     
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    In the media? That's like asking me to name which Nazi is Jewish.

    People in the media are rich adult babies that never grew up. They can't be conservative their profession doesn't allow it.
     
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    Is that what you call having a mind?
     
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    Says the guy who favors juvenile insults instead of actually debating the content.... Do you have any more cartoons you might post while you're at it?
     
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    So you want to leech off the govt. Got it.
     
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    Really, then why are the rich getting richer today with the very liberal biden in charge?
     
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    Because that's not the only way the rich get richer.
     
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    Convenient answer.
     

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