Elon Musk proposals to end the war in Ukraine

OK, I'm just going to say it. You're either trolling or dumb.

I actually suspect a 50/50 mix but I never said anything about Dubya being President during the 90's; I never even implied it. You've been trying to generate a do over ever since I proved you wrong about your assertion that that we didn't threaten Russia with regime change. For some reason, you've not been able to just take the L and let it go. Instead you are making a good argument that some catladies should probably not post on political forums because of their inability to not treat every comment as an argument with your ex-husband.

And of course, you're editing my posts,

 

Heh, two Chamberlain checks in two days! It may not be a record, but it could make a top ten.

You sound like Hannity in 2003.

 

Better than being forced to sound like Churchill in 1940...

 

Wow, I admit I'm caught by surprise by Hannity's "strange new respect"

 

Most reasonable, I say.

But the US is interested in perpetual warfare, as it always is. The Straussians and Military Industrial Complex drive the Washington government. Diplomacy has no role in Washington's calculations, only war does.

 

Alright mo**n, That's it. I am clearly at least a full, standard deviation higher than you-- and I suspect probably two-- in I. Q. Your posts prove how lacking you are, upstairs. So if this is the way you are going to proceed, by insulting my intellect, you can phuck off. I don't care to listen to any more of your crap. Go screw yourself.

 

...heh, and of course you edited my post!

 

Since I realize you're not smart enough to deduce this, from my post--

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Alright mo**n, That's it. I am clearly at least a full, standard deviation higher than you-- and I suspect probably two-- in I. Q. Your posts prove how lacking you are, upstairs. So if this is the way you are going to proceed, by insulting my intellect, you can phuck off. I don't care to listen to any more of your crap. Go screw yourself.


-- I had read enough of your post, by the insulting point at which I ended my quote of your words, and told you to Phuck off.

(IOW, that means I posted all that I had read of it. To be a little bit clearer, for you, this means that I did not read any more of your post, than what I had quoted. I hope that's enough, to get you up to speed).

 

Musk is a troll so its hard to tell if his twitter comment about following the Ukrainian Ambassadors "Recommendation" is why he is ending his paid for donation and service of starlink to Ukraine.
Should the US government pick up the tab and pay Musk/SpaceX for this service for Ukraine?

 

We should give Ukraine whatever their Comedian in Chief asks for and ask no questions.

 

(1 Jason Jay Smart on Twitter: "Elon Musk’s Starlink says it can no longer afford to give Ukraine free service and asks the Pentagon to pay for it. Starlink had been a game changer in the war. This comes days after Ukrainian Ambassador @MelnykAndrij told Musk to “**** off.”" / Twitter

Elon Musk in reply "We're just following his recommendation"

LOL!

 

That is a story that I have not heard, from the Press, despite what should be seen as the obvious tie. Thanks for keeping us informed! You deserve a beer, on me.

 

And Musk would do well to aim his suggestions, towards ways to address the serious political unrest, at home.

 

What exactly do you think makes someone an international policy expert?

 

Send him a tweet informing him of that,

Musk has been spending $20M/Mo to keep the internet up in Ukraine without reimbursement.
Then the Ukraine Ambassador told him to fk off.
Now Musk has alerted the Pentagon that if they want him to keep the internet up in the Ukraine they will need to take over the cost of doing so.

Musk will to provide terminals, create, launch, maintain & replenish satellites & ground stations & pay telcos for access to Internet via gateways. They will also continue to defend against cyberattacks & jamming, which are getting harder, but, after Ukraine told him to Fk Off, he would like to be reimbursed for his expense to do so

'The letter continued with the need for the Pentagon to take over Starlink's expenses. In the next 12 months, Starlink forecasted the service would cost upwards of $400 million.'

"We are not in a position to further donate terminals to Ukraine, or fund the existing terminals for an indefinite period of time," SpaceX's director of government sales wrote in the letter.

'Musk on Friday confirmed the letter as he responded to a Kyiv Post journalist on Twitter, saying he only followed the advice of a Ukrainian diplomat who told him to "F*** off."'

 

This was very good of Musk, to have volunteered to provide. In fact, many of the Twitter replies to him, thanked him for Starlink, and the only one I had seen that was not, at least, polite, was the one you & he cite. You reiterate Musk's erroneous attribution of this, though, to a "Ukrainian diplomat." In point of fact, Zelensky had, some time ago, fired that diplomat, for comments he'd made, about some other issue. So this is obviously a loudmouth type, who speaks before he thinks: not the right fit for diplomacy (though we've had a President with similar impulses, in the recent past); I guess that shows Zelensky was wise, to can his ass.

It's hard to imagine that Musk did not realize that this was really an ex-diplomat. Let me propose another possibility: the costs of Musk's generosity, are starting to really add up. Perhaps, with confidence in his powers of political analysis, he had determined that the conflict would have ended, long before now. So Musk is looking for a way to back out of, what has become a more expensive proposition, than he'd bargained for. Therefore, he tweets out his peace plan- slash- way to save SpaceX (or himself) a lot of money. Then, some former Ukrainian diplomat is rude to him. This may not have been his original plan, but Musk sees the perfect opportunity-- or at least, the best one he's going to get-- to tell the U.S. that we have to start picking up some of this expense, or he's going to f*** off.

That seems a pretty reasonable scenario to me. And, you know what, I have no problem with Musk's asking for help with this expense, if it is running into more than he'd anticipated, when he'd offered the free service. This does cast Musk in a new light, not as a Putin- sympathizer, but as only someone whose generosity is not boundless, but whose Ego prevents him from merely being honest about his initial misjudging of the cost, and leading him to look for some manufactured pretext, as an out.

In a way then, he's not completely unlike that former President, I'd earlier mentioned.

 

~ ... And they all will drive Teslas and live happily ever after .

 

Musk didn't become the richest man in the world by being generous. He became it by being the greediest. Don't fall for the MSM propaganda, he's a South African whose family profited off the most racist and brutal system of government of the last century.

 

If electric cars become more expensive to use, the surge in electric mobility is in danger of collapsing, because hardly anyone is going to buy an electric car,” Bratzel, who is also founder of the Center for Automotive Management (CAM), said. He and other electric car advocates are now calling on the German government to ensure that the electricity price remains under the price of petrol, which they say is crucial to the future of electric cars.

“Electric cars are losing their charm,” Helena Wisbert, director of the Duisburg-based Center for Automotive Research, wrote in a recent commentary for the economic daily Handelsblatt.

-theguardian

 

And this relates to my post, how?

 

You'll claimed musk was generous, someone whose generosity is not boundless. I'm merely pointing out that imo, you don't get to be filthy rich by giving money away, it's MORE LIKELY, the opposite.

 

The two concepts, are not mutually exclusive. You have presumably heard of charitable foundations, and even buildings, donated by such business titans as John D. Rockefeller, J. P. Morgan, and even today's Koch brothers. I had called the offer to provide his Starlink service for free, generous of Musk. This is in accord with the mere definition of generous: it was an expensive contribution, he voluntarily offered, with nothing compelling him to do so. Do not confuse my acknowledging the act, with my overall opinion of the man. With Elon's wealth, this act of generosity, at least at first, may have not amounted to any real sacrifice, on his part; that does not exclude it from being deemed "generous." Despite my low opinion of the Kochs, or of Morgan, their "generous" contributions to charities-- even if they came out of an expectation of benefit, to their own reputations-- cannot be denied. Yet these are, it should be obvious, not the full picture.

 

~ Anyone who is paying attention knows this. They realize that the entire Co2 "climate catastrophe " is false. Governments depend on gradually dumbing-down and misleading society in order to pass their agenda — which is always less power/freedom for citizens and more authority and control by totalitarian government policies. Covid-19 pandemic, climate change, nuclear war, racism, mass shootings are all recent examples of using false fear and exaggeration as strategies for an experiment in social engineering / psychological manipulation to test compliance with government authority.
People are waking up — America not so much. Unfortunately the "news " media in USA keeps many stupefied.
More people need to get familiar with all information and all points of view, then use critical thinking and decide for themselves .
Hopefully it's not too late ...

 

Mega wealthy capitalists are known to initially offer their services for free. Perhaps you are mistaking this strategy for being the action of a godly saviour for mankind, It's called loss leading. Have you heard of this?

 

Acknowledging someone's offer of, by definition, a charitable contribution, is comparable, by no sane person, to equating it with "the action of a godly savior for mankind." Though this is the most extreme case I can ever recall seeing (making me wonder if it might even surpass the application of this term), this is called, "HYPERBOLE." Ever hear of it?