Trans Athlete Severely Injures Girls Volleyball Player With Spike — District Forfeits Games For Girl

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  1. hawgsalot

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    So I assume you support getting rid of Title IX then. That's what your theory goes btw.
     
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    No, that's not where my theory goes at all because what you did was bring up a largely different topic.

    Title IX says you can't discriminate based on sex, gender (this includes gender identity) or sexual orientation. The argument being had over transgender and title IX is whether or not it's discriminatory to force someone whose sex is male but whose gender is female to play with males only. My statement said nothing about that. I merely disputed that men and women can't play physical sports together. Can women compete 1 to 1 in all strength based sports/activities? No. Does that mean they couldn't still win at them? Also no. Not every sport is won by the strongest athlete. Sometimes the better one or quicker one or smarter one wins. I also disputed the notion that being hurt by a hard hit volleyball is somehow more likely to happen to women and less to men depending upon the gender of who spiked the ball.

    One does not have to invoke title IX in any of this. Do you think it's a violation of title IX to force transgender to play with their sex as opposed to their gender?
     
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    Soldiering is only about 1% "firing a gun".
     
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    this is dumb. it completely misses the point. and you know it.
     
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    To be exactly and totally fair. The girl deserved the injury!!


    A team got 3 players in front, and 3 in the back.
    The spike was made by a player, playing at the front left.
    So in general that player should be blocked by the opposing front center and front right player.
    In this case, the front center player was there while the front right player stepped back leaving the door open for the person to full out spike straight.
    The attacking player saw the opportunity and punished the mistake.


    It's all fair!!!
    It's like refusing to raise your fists in a boxing game and whine you got punched in the face by somebody who trained for it.


    And yeah, in general this is how teams put up a block vs an attack on that side.
    In rare occasions a the other front player joins in on the block.




    It wouldn't be fair if the block was set correctly. But the male player out jumped the female block, nuked the ball over it, and in the face of a person in the back. A male should be able to do this actually. Women play with a net much lower to compensate their lack of strength and height compared to a general male... excluding what exceptional male/female players can do.
     
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    Exactly, no one claims there aren’t any females capable of outperforming men, only that men are given such an advantage that the majority will lose to this advantage, and at the extremes…all women will lose due to this advantage.
     
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    This is just beyond absurd and stupid. While this might be your "opinion" and an awful one at that, men and women should be seperated into like groups so that they can compete on a level playing field. Possibly, when kids are young, it's OK to let them run around together and "compete" and have fun but once you get to a certain age and maturity, the physical differences between men and women are not even close. Men will completely dominate in sports. And don't give me that absurd one off arguement where one women beat a man at something or one female sports team dominated a male team in "such in such" sport at one time.... I am talking overall on a real playing field in high schooland college/Professional sports.

    In tennis, if you combined men and women into sports at the Pro level (WTA and ATP combined) not a single woman would make the draw in any events. Not even Serena at her best would make the top 200 in rankings. Thomas Blake, brother of retired star James Blake used to train and hit with top female players and beat them routinely in practice sessions. He had a brief career and got as high as 141 in the world. He dominated any woman in prcaticed with, easily.

    The US Women's National Soccor team got beat by an FC Dallas under 15 boys team (Yes, under 15 years old. These were boys under 15.) boys team. You put these women in a real match with top teams across the world, even top amateur boys teams and they will get crushed. Dominated in every facet of the game.

    You put the best female boxers and fighetrs in a ring with any MMA fighter or with the likes of Conor Mcgregor, Manny Pacquiao, Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis and the women could nearly be killed. There is no woman on the planet that could even make it through the ranks to even get to these levels. One solid power punch could do permanent damage or even paralysis.

    How many women play in the NFL right now? In case you make up some nonsnense, the answer is zero. How many women play in the NBA? Zero. How many WNBA women could compete and play in the NBA? Zero. How many women play Pro Hockey on a men's team (NY Rangers, for example) right now? Zero. Again, zero.

    Put a woman's swim team up against a men's swim team in college and see what happens. We know what happens when even a man who barely make it on a men's team switches to the female team and then starts breaking record after record after record. You think that's a fluke? He couldn't even crack a top 100-200 men's ranking. Wasn't he 400+ overall?

    The extremes people go to, to justify letting biololgical men compete in women's sports in just off the charts and it's just plain wrong. It's also disgusting and unfair to women.

    This is not "men are better than women in everyhting" because I have met plenty of female pilots (military and otherwise) that are quite capable and very good at what they do. Among the best in their profession. However, put them in a physical environemnt (who can do more push up;s, run faster, etc) it's the more physical men who will men. Almost straight across the board.
     
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    It's, like, why they have all female teams in the first place... duh.
     
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    And if college male hit that girls softball pitch back at the pitcher?
     
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    Try reading the OP link as I advised.

    "But in particular, in this meeting, a coach of 40 years said they’d never seen a hit like this. That was really what sealed the decision, at least on my part.”

    Vice chair Jeff Martin noted the “competitive advantage” at play, which he suggested was trumped by “safety concerns.”"

    She deserved it.......geez
     
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    Read what I post.
    Her job at her position was to make a block, as in jumping up next to the net / raising your hands up as high as possible.... to prevent the attacker to hit that exact spot that she actually was at.


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    How it's done right. Two people busy with a block on the outside. If player number 9 wouldn't do this job, the attack could nuke straight. And if player number 9 would not block but stand in the place where the opponent should nuke, it's all the fault of number 9.


    This really is volleyball 101.



    And again. It would not be fair if the block was made by 2 people, but the opposing person just outjumps them, and nukes the ball over the block, hitting a player in the back in the face. A male can do this when playing against females. Only that would be a real concern of safety.
     
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    Read what the coach said

    "But in particular, in this meeting, a coach of 40 years said they’d never seen a hit like this. That was really what sealed the decision, at least on my part.”

    Vice chair Jeff Martin noted the “competitive advantage” at play, which he suggested was trumped by “safety concerns.”"

    She deserved it.......geez
     
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    You're not responding to my argument that she deserved this.


    Women can spike a ball over 60 miles an hour.
    Getting punched in the face that hard, because of your own mistake, only concludes that you deserved the punch.
     
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    The Olympic committee demands that transgenders go through a long process of hormonal treatment to cancel all that crap out why men are stronger than women. And there shouldn't be a problem that when the hormones who cause the difference are taken out of the equation.

    And in this example, the main issue is that there should have been 2 people busy blocking "the guy". One girl did not and left the door open. It's the girl who got hit in the face. Women can hit the ball over 60 miles an hour. It's flat out not funny in a match that players refuse to put up a block so their teammates can be nuked at 60 miles an hour in the face. In this case, the person person who left the door open, was the one who got hit. I find it fair, actually.

    Sure the woman got hit by a guy. But than again, it would not have mattered much at all. If you as a male refuse to raise your fist against an amateur boxer and get nuked in the face by a woman at 60 miles an hour... you got absolutely no way to complain that you get seriously hurt by that woman as well.
     
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    and if we keep men out of womens sports you wont ever have to make convoluted arguments like this again. Win. Win.
     
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    I'm mocking it and citing the coaches while you are ignoring the issue at hand.
     
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    To fight male soldiers of foreign armies, hand to hand if needed?

    Yes.

    Inferior AF.
     
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    it's a tough one, are women equal to men, or are they the weaker gender?
     
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    agree, republicans are the ones that believe in discrimination and segregation

    but also agree, some on the left have taken this too far

    and some on the right want to take it too far in the other direction
     
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    Yeah because why shun a good argument, when you can discriminate?
     
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    You're ignoring it, as well as my explanation. I can post one pic after the other who 2 people put up a block where the "victim" failed. or rather refused, to do so proving me I'm right.

    That coach is an obvious idiot. The ball gets nuked so hard, that joints of fingers bend over backwards to even break. About all high end players all got their fingers taped. Even the women. Because they know.
     
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    Incorrect, you described democrats completely. And it’s quite unfortunate the left has largely gone in that direction.
     
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    It’s really sad that you have to dumb things down to such an elementary degree in the hope that these people understand what is normally a very simple and easy to understand concept
     
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    I cited the coaches and their actions that is not ignoring it.

    You ignored my question about letting men play on the girls softball team.
     
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    as I said

    some on the left have taken this too far

    and some on the right want to take it too far in the other direction
     

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