Germany's armed forces must become the best-equipped military force in Europe, says Scholz | DW News

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Prove it LOL

    So you believe 4 million people were gassed at auschwitz then?
    How many of that 4 million were jews?
     
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    Read an interesting article yesterday about the Jerusalem's 'Mufti' Husseini. He was the Muslim Arab preacher who spent a lot of WW2 in Germany. He met Hitler and he influenced the Final Solution, stating that the Jews should not be allowed into Palestine and they should be 'burned.' He is supposed to have actually gone to Austwich itself and witnessed the gassing and cremation of some Jews.
    Austwich was only one of many gassing and crematoriums. Nor was gassing the only way of killing Jews, Russians, Gypsies.

    German killing squads - not even mothers and their children were spared.
    karlee-1.jpg
     
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    Germany: Domestic and Foreign Policy


    Why is the German system so stable...because they didn't create it. The British, French and Americans did. No foreign strategic policy = no military = no war. A fool-proof plan...right?​
     
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    Re:
    I'm afraid that's not true.

    Besides, the Germans made more frequent use of the famous Stuka dive bomber while Churchill was more interested in "roasting" civilians:

    "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/

    EXCERPT:
    "Prime Minister Churchill had said earlier:

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.” CONTINUED


    Thanks,
     
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    The photo you chose, like most produced by the Holocaust industry is fake / altered.

    This is the original and it's hard to tell what's going on except that the source that used the altered / cropped photo is dishonest:

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    "Holocaust Fake Pics 3"
    http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/10/holocaust-fake-pics-3.html
     
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    evidence?

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    Maybe you believe propaganda.

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    ....and its been long admitted (since 1949) by the president of east germany after the war that its all just propaganda!

    ...and your tax dollars are paying for it! :roflol:
     
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    Return of the Natzis.

    Arresting people for saying things that the German authorities hate online
     
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    Holocaust (sacrifice) - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Holocaust_(sacrifice)

    A holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by fire.
    Jewish sacrifice

    Dresden, Hamburg etc.... - Seems the germans were the victims of the holocaust, and the jews and their allies were the perpetrators since churchill in fact achieved that objective!



    The Jewish Final Solution to the German Question:Millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North and South Africa and Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end.” The Jewish newspaper, Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September, 13, 1939.


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    They're nowhere near as bad as the ruscists. They can't even call their war a war. They can't even protest without being arrested and charged.
     
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    Sounds like they are just as bad.

    upload_2022-11-8_11-42-21.png

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    You can add any narrative you like to a couple of photos, but the facts are the facts. Protest is illegal in Rashka.
     
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    No they are not. Protests are legal as long as the the German German government likes them.

    The same with Russia
     
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    People protest all the time in Germany and they are not arrested for it. The laws are entirely different.
     
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    They sure do get arrested. You can even get arrested for saying mean things.
     
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    They're not as free as we are in the US of A. But hey, who is?
     
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    You want him to prove estimates?

    Evidence and Documentation of the Holocaus
    https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/evidence-documentation-holocaust
    DOCUMENTING NUMBERS OF VICTIMS OF THE HOLOCAUST AND NAZI PERSECUTION

    "The Holocaust is the best documented case of genocide. Despite this, calculating the exact numbers of individuals who were killed as the result of Nazi policies is an impossible task. There is no single wartime document that spells out how many people were killed.

    Holocaust denial, distortion, and misuse are strategies used to undermine or cast doubt upon the historical truth of the Holocaust. Deniers engage in this activity to reduce perceived public sympathy to Jews, to undermine the legitimacy of the State of Israel, to plant seeds of doubt about Jews and the Holocaust, and to draw attention to particular issues or viewpoints. The internet, because of its ease of access and dissemination, seeming anonymity, and perceived authority, is now the chief conduit of Holocaust denial.

    Key denial assertions are that the murder of approximately six million Jews during World War II never occurred, that the Nazis had no official policy or intention to exterminate the Jews, and that the poison gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp never existed. Common distortions include, for example, assertions that the figure of six million Jewish deaths is an exaggeration and that the diary of Anne Frank is a forgery. Learn more about the facts of the Holocaust below.




    The single most important thing to keep in mind when attempting to document numbers of victims of the Holocaust is that no one master list of those who perished exists anywhere in the world."

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...caust-and-nazi-persecution#number-of-deaths-1

     
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    I am sorry you have bought into conspiracy theories, even racist, anti Semitic ones. Generally people who buy into one
    conspiracy buy into the lot.
    If you want to know how anti Semitism works just watch what is happening year by year in Western societies, or read
    the Islamic narratives about Israel today.
     
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    Yes, I Googled for this image because it's the one that has long shocked me. BOTH images are freely available on-line,
    I just felt the wider image was a distraction because I can't figure out what the second group are doing - but it's obvious
    what the story is on the left.
    And no, there is no dishonesty - this German is an Einsatzgruppen, often called “mobile killing units,” are best known for
    their role in the murder of Jews in mass shooting operations during the Holocaust.
     
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    Night bombing, along with cloud or industrial haze and fighter attacks, drove the abysmal accuracy of dropping a bomb from high altitude
    to absurd to even lower levels. Dive bombing by Stuka or Mosquito could not deliver the tonnage necessary.


    Wikipedia on WW2 bomb accuracy
    An example of the difficulties of precision bombing was a raid in the Northern Hemisphere summer of 1944 by 47 B-29's on Japan's Yawata
    Steel Works
    from bases in China. Only one plane actually hit the target area, and only with one of its bombs. This single 500 lb (230 kg)
    general-purpose bomb represented one quarter of one percent of the 376 bombs dropped over Yawata on that mission. It took 108 B-17
    bombers, crewed by 1,080 airmen, dropping 648 bombs to guarantee a 96 percent chance of getting just two hits inside a 400 x 500 ft
    (150 m) German power-generation plant.
     
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    What Norman Finkelstein calls "The Holocaust Industry" (i.e. USHMM, the Holocaust Claims Commission etc) has been repeatedly caught inflating the number of Jewish casualties in order to extort more money from Germany and anyone else they can cheat:


    "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    Even though all US taxpayers fund the grisly theme park known as USHMM to the tune of just under $100 million per year, it's deliberate fraudulence makes it an entirely unreliable source.


    Thanks,
     
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    F*uck off with talk of the Holocaust. I'm sure there are at least a dozen threads dedicated to that but this ain't one of them. Can we have a rest, please?
     
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    Ur link claims people misrepresented themselves to steal money, that has nothing to do with ushmm's credibility.
     
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    Re:
    First of all I wanted to clarify that I was not implying that you were being dishonest, only that the Holocaust Industry has repeatedly been caught forging documents, altering photos some of which are not even of the WW 2 era.

    "Zionists Fake Holocaust Cremation Deaths Using 35 Year-Old Train Wreck Images"
    https://nodisinfo.com/zionists-holocaust-cremation-deaths-ohio-train-wreck-images/


    EXCERPT "So, it is that there is not only no evidence for it, but in fact, there is evidence fully against it, proving it to be a lie. Here is the proof of the fake, the star imagery of the dog and pony show, the supposed open-pit cremation of naked, dead Jews. There were no Jews there. This is a fake. The corpses were put in artificially. The image has nothing to do with the war or post-war period. It’s not even from Germany but rather from the United States"CONTINUED


    "How the Simon Wiesenthal Center Falsifies History"
    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n5p-4_SWC.html

    EXCERPT "Similarly, there is no trace of crematory smoke in any of the Allied aerial reconnaissance photos taken of Auschwitz and Birkenau on random days in 1944. Cremation specialists affirm that crematories do not produce visible smoke. In short, the available evidence does not support the "billowing smoke" claims of many former inmates."CONTINUED


    Re:
    The Germans did not randomly go from village to village killing Jews and other Russian civilians. They, like every other army, did execute resistance fighters, Communist partisans etc who went beyond ruthless in their use of criminal and sadistic mutilation and torture tactics.
    Because Stalin refused to sign the Geneva Convention and ordered that his own soldiers trying to surrender were to be killed, the Eastern Front was especially horrific.

    Thanks,
     
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    I, also think that we should move discussion of the holocaust to the thread "About the Holocaust" located in the Middle East section.
     
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    I agree one thousand percent it should be moved but why to Middle East?
     
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