Russian Troops Pulled Out Of The City Of Kherson

I know that Russian war strategy has always been to retreat before a strong counterattack, so what they are doing is not unusual. By retreating they could save the lives of their men who might end up in a precarious situation, as well as rebuild their forces for a strong counterattack. After hearing a report by Army General Sergey Surovikin, the commander of the country’s military operation in Ukraine, Defense Minister Shoigu ordered Russian forces to pull back from the city of Kherson.

Here are General Surovikin reasons for the pull out.

The continuous missile strikes by Ukraine on the Kakhovka hydroelectric dam located near Kherson pose a serious risk to both the military and civilians on the right bank of the Dnieper. The dam has already been damaged by the Ukrainians, and another blow could lead to “large areas” being flooded with massive civilian casualties.

Civilian lives are also in constant danger due to shelling. Ukrainian troops have been hitting schools and hospitals in particular, as well as humanitarian aid centers and routes used by civilians for relocation across the Dnieper River. So far 115,000 people have moved out of the city and the Russian army has been doing everything to ensure their safety. Leaving the Russian troops in the area would also cut them off from the rest of their forces, something they could not allow. Shoigu said he “agreed” with Surovikin’s assessment and ordered a regrouping of forces to the left bank of the Dnieper.

According to Gen. Surovikin, Ukrainian troops have suffered heavy losses in their attacks in recent months. It is estimated that they have lost more than 12,000 soldiers in October alone, as well as 200 tanks, 800 other armored vehicles, and 18 combat planes. Russian losses in contrast, were “seven to eight times lower.” Also between August and October, Ukrainian attacks in Kherson Region alone cost Kiev more than 9,500 casualties.

https://www.rt.com/russia/566243-pull-back-kherson-save-lives/

 

Still some odd issues and rumor's even coming from Ukrainian sources on the status of the city itself.

This conflict still looks to be not a month's but possibly multiple year fight as it has been before the SMO.

 

If Russia really wants to 'save lives' then just keep withdrawing all the way to Russia's inernationally recognized boundaries. Russia is the ONLY reason people are dying.

We shall see if Russian forces are actually withdrawn from Kherson. It is real when it happens & not before.

 

Apparently Ukraine's new tactic of racing civilian trucks filled with small units behind Russian lines to cause chaos is ...well, causing chaos. I suspect Russia is pulling back to tighten up its lines and leave less space 'in the rear' for such tactics to utilize. This is a pretty good way to slow an advance while going out in a blaze of glory. Its prolly not a good long term strategy for victory... not by itself anyway.

 

~ It seems without his nuclear threat Pootin is too pooped to pop ... '

 

Russia is withdrawing most of its troops from Kherson IMO for a simple reason: defending (with numbers) a ruined and evacuated city in bloody urban fighting, merely to avoid a symbolic defeat, makes less military sense than repositioning the troops to buttress defenses needed to blunt any Ukrainian attempts to breach its lines protecting strategic areas in the Kherson region that Russia needs to keep. In the meantime, smaller units of snipers and guerilla forces can remain in and around Kherson to bloody the Ukrainian forces. The latter something Ukraine realizes as well.

 

Russia is in it for the long haul.

 

This is what I know. Forty thousand Russian troops are leaving Kherson and building a strong defense on the left bank of the Dnieper. If the Ukrainian forces enter the city, then it's doubtful they will continue their attacks on the hydroelectric dam and flood the area and kill their own men - but then again one never knows.

Zalensky might send special forces he feels are expendable and conduct a false flag attack and flood the Kherson area since he knows it's necessary for the Russians and that they will not let it go.

 

Unless Russia has something up their sleeve. Alexander Mercouris and others said that they feel the conscription of Russian reserves was not 300 thousand men, but one million men - and they might be right. I think Washington will be heading its war with Russia into the Baltics, which means it can't go on in Ukraine forever - or can it?

 

Russia has not made any nuclear threats other than if it's survival is at stake, and they have been saying that from the time of it's existence so it's nothing new. The nuclear talks are all coming from Washington, which means they probably have a provocation up their sleeve.

Besides that, Putin would never nuke Ukraine. Washington's war is to kill off the Ukrainians and Russians and take their land a-la Nazi style, so he's certainly not going to facilitate them by killing off his own people. This is why all the bio labs were located in Eastern Ukraine.

As for the Western Ukrainians, well Washington considers them a different species from the Slavs. Now they're thinking of appointing Freeland, whose grandfather was a proud member of the Nazi SS, to head Nato.

 

~ I agree. But Russia has always been feared for their nuclear arsenal — which likely is much less than we think.
Much media propaganda surrounding this "war" ... `

 

Can you imagine if one fizzles on the launch pad, or worse yet lands in Ukraine and doesn't go off?
The "flight of stairs" will come to Putin!

 

And here's some real news:

For the first time a Russian top official talks about the use of weapons of mass destruction and admits that Russia will "use them on time". Medvedev's statements come after hysteria in British and American circles about impending use of a weapon that will cause an EMP electromagnetic pulse with incalculable consequences.

In the meantime the Russian Commander of Kakhovka, on the left bank of the Dnieper, announced that the city was being evacuated by civilians, who must leave immediately for Tuapsi, Russia. Are they expecting the Ukrainians to blow up the dam, or something else?

"We were informed today, November 12, that we must leave with our families," says a citizen.



From Medvedev:​

"I want to remind them the Russia people that today it is Russia that is shaping the future world order, not states like Britain or dark Kiev. And this new egalitarian world order will be built. Russia is fighting NATO and the Western world alone. Therefore, any parallels with the past are incorrect.

The difference with the past is that today we can destroy a powerful enemy or hostile alliances. We're fighting battles while at the same time trying to save as many of our soldiers and civilians as possible, while our enemy does not count the lives of their soldiers and civilians - and that is where the great moral difference is between us and them.

Remember that Russia, has not yet used all its arsenal of possible means of mass destruction and has never hit any possible enemy targets that is located in settlements. This is not only because of our inherent human kindness. But because there is a correct time for everything.

And last but not least. Only the closest unity, daily hard work and higher morale can ensure the country's victory. Russia has already returned the original Russian territories, and this return will continue, Medvedev said. Our concept of territorial sovereignty in our country has not disappeared at any point and that everything will return to the Russian Federation where they have come from.

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All Russians need do to see the truth is look at their Western border. There is no war there.

 

Russia was left with no choice by Nato. They waited 8 years for Ukraine to comply with the agreement they had signed but to no avail, instead Kiev continued with its ethnic cleansing campaign and the Russian speaking people were deprived of many things, which included retaining their heritage and language.

Anyway from what I know, Moscow is waiting for the ground to freeze - and that should be in about 3 to 4 weeks. In the meantime, Russia is continuing its attacks on Ukraine's electric grids, so that Nato will not be able to resupply Kiev's troops since most of the trains in Ukraine run on electricity.

 

Because the Western Ukrainians want the wealthy lands in Eastern Ukraine that have always been inhabited by Russians. If the Russians in Eastern and Southern Ukraine were fighting and killing people in Western Ukraine, then they would be the aggressors rather than the other way around.

 

This little Stalinsky is going to keep on till someone steps on their dick and there will nuclear war and nobody knows how to stop it.

 

Doubt it.

 

And some more news:

There is talk by the British and Americans of a shock and awe strike by the Russians that will cause an electromagnetic pulse EMP. If the Zircon rocket is used, then the first supersonic emp electromagnetic attack in history will take place! A relatively small nuclear EMP, easily deployed at high altitude by Russia's Zircon supersonic cruise missiles, may not destroy any buildings or kill anyone. However, it could permanently disable electrical circuits in thousands of square miles of Ukrainian territory.

These weapons – designed to create a powerful pulse of energy that short-circuits electrical and electronic equipment such as computers, generators, satellites, radios, radar receivers and even traffic lights – could disable Ukraine's military and political infrastructure and leave the country without light, heat, communications or transport.

The EMP attacks have been adequately explained, and even proclaimed, on talk shows on Russian state television. A Russian colonel has shown in the air, with maps how such an explosion in the Baltic Sea can work. A relatively small nuclear EMP, easily deployed at high altitude by Russia's Zircon supersonic cruise missiles, may not destroy any buildings or kill anyone. But it could permanently disable electrical circuits in thousands of square miles of Ukrainian territory. Almost all defence equipment deployed by NATO allies in Ukraine – such as radios, GPS navigation and aerial drones – depends on electronic parts for deployment, maintenance and integration.

Prolonged electromagnetic effects of a hit could destroy 90 percent of the satellites over the affected zone within three months. However, Russian information operations on the ground are likely to be affected as well. The U.S. and its allies are by no means unaware of the dangers of an EMP, and most military equipment has a degree of built-in defense against this eventuality. But a strike would create a new battleground that would negate the superiority of NATO-led information systems.​

 

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EMP is BS. Its debatable but most experts say it won't work

https://www.google.com/search?q=emp...it&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



All Russia will do by using nukes is lose any friends they still have and maybe bring the Americans in. How many EMPs could the USA deploy over Russia and how would that affect their aging nuclear stockpile?

 

This conflict has been ongoing for 8 years! Where have you even been?

 

~ Yes indeed — now is the time to push the limits. Without a strong USA there is opportunity for terrorism like never before. I expect another "attack" on the West — very likely another unintended-on-purpose "accident " of some sort — perhaps a virus or unidentifiable pathogen ..?

~ Sadly this could be the case ... '

 

Whatever comes from this Ukrainian adventure, Covid and our reaction to it has already changed the US and there will be no going back. I was looking at the Students at football games Saturday thinking that's a lot of Teslas and solar panels when they hit the streets.