Is Lying the only thing that Trump know how to do - Trump lies about special prosecutor

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    No administration proves whose agenda is better than the others, no matter which timeline you use.

    That being said, from Trump's administration and policy, let's look at the zero-tolerance illegal alien agenda. No one wants criminal aliens, that is aliens who are here illegally who have committed serious crimes in the US. But the false equivalency is that an alien who simply violated one rule and no others are now the focus of deportation. Trump wanted numbers of deportation and nothing else and did not care how old or young they were, or the specific circumstances of how long they have been here or what they are doing now. A lot of illegals who were deported under Trump were those who have been here 20 years or so, had their own business, their own home, etc. In all respects with that one exception, they were productive members of society. And yet Trump thought they were some quadrouple homicide suspects in the US illegally, in that frame of mind. At least the Biden Administration is going after true illegal criminals and is trying its best with a divided congress, even when Democrats controlled both houses, that could not reform the immigration code to more modern standards instead of the 1950s mentality. And that is the difference between the two.
     
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    As I recall, you blamed Trump for the pain Covid caused the country.

    You're a revisionist.
    Gas prices rose more than 5% under Biden's reign, and Biden's solution was to irresponsibly drain our oil reserves and blame Putin and gas station owners.
    Gas Prices Up 100% Under Biden (senate.gov)
    Biden crushed for draining US oil reserves, denying his administration ‘slowed’ oil production | Fox News

    Gas prices have doubled since Biden took office (nypost.com)

    Nonsense.

    No, it's not reality. Prices rose because of supply and demand.

    Sorry, but OPEC cut oil production but not for the reasons you stated. Buy some facts:
    • OPEC announced that it would slash oil production targets for October by 100,000 barrels per day
    • The group of oil producers expressed concerns over weakened demand, slipping prices and a potential Iranian nuclear deal
    • Brent crude futures have fallen from their March high of $147 to around $96 a barrel
    Why Did OPEC Cut Production For October Targets? (forbes.com)
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it. This administration either ignores the problems or scapegoats others. It's like Biden is a bad parent who won't accept responsibility for his own blunders and failures... Oh wait. I see a pattern here. :cry:
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's never been about solving any problems with his kind. It's always been about controlling the sheeple allowing them to work behind the curtains to enrich themselves. Trump threatened to upset the gravy train for both Parties because he was one of them using the system to enrich himself. They (both) couldn't allow that to happen.
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Trump interrupted all their fun. Precisely why someone like Liz Cheney, Mitch McConnell, the Clintons, the Bushes, and Pelosi are trying to keep the gravy train going.

    Rand Paul:
    "Republicans are getting killed everywhere. They don't understand it. It's the war, it's the war, it's the war. They want to go into Iran next. They're all bellicose and beating their chests to go into Iran. And they'll oppose the Democrats on every spending bill once they're out of power. But when they're in power, they're just as bad as the Democrats. Some of that's a part of our system, that people get in power, and then all of their friends want favors from government too."

    For example,
    "Dick Cheney enriched himself "hundreds of millions of dollars" by giving Haliburton contracts as secretary of defense in the 1990s and then going to work for them."

    Dick Cheney Made Money Off The Gulf War & 7 Other Interesting Things Rand Paul Said In 2008 (buzzfeednews.com)

     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bingo! I've never seen a man so hated by both sides of the aisle. Does Trump say stupid crap? Sure, but the question is what is (was) he doing for Americans?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ahhhh, the old 'they all do it' argument, which is the one Trump supporters dish up so they can feel less ashamed for supporting Trump.

    Sorry, that doesn't work. See.....

    Not really. The other politicians might exaggerate, get facts wrong, but no one outright lies like Donald Trump. I mean, Ted Cruz lies, so does Rand Paul, but not like Donald Trump. No one lies like Trump lies, which is a fashion that could be characterized as 'spewing lies with a firehose', which is a degree of bluster and bloviating beyond the proverbial pale.

    Trump is a demagogue. The others are not. Other nations have experienced the demagogue, it's a new experience for America. Trump is America's first bona fide demagogue. That is the difference.

    Here are the rules of a demagogue, of whom Trump is a master




    Therefore, the salient point is that the 'others do it, too' argument just doesn't wash.
     
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    Absolutely!
    The mindless sheeple won't see it that way though because they give unconditional cover to the do business as usual DC elite's club. Why do they do that? Because they're stupidly blind.
     
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    :cheerleader: The lying Democrats and the Never Trump Republicans thank you.

    Just a quick question before I go, but who do you suppose was viciously lying to the American people from 2016 about Trump?

    Mic drop.
     
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    Falena Cherry Bomb Staff Member Past Donor

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    Fair Warning
    Focus on the topic
     
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    People criticized Trump for his initial response, ignoring the experts, etc. Then he did things that were necessary, such as agreeing to recommend to shut down the country,. Then his supporters began to convince Trump that was not right and that the economy should be open with all the misinformation on Covid. And the rest is history.



    Yes gas prices rose, but Biden does not control the production of oil in this country, does he. What happened was that demand outweighed supply, and that is why gas prices rose. Producers were very reluctant to increase production so that they can maximize their profits.



    True, but you have to ask yourself why. Oil prices, supply and demand, is more global than local.


    OPEC cut production because the crown prince of Saudi Arabia wants to show the world that he is more powerful than the United States. Saudi Arabia has controlled the price of oil through its production for the past several decades now. And right now, they want those high prices and will cut production to make it so. What OPEC said is not exactly true. Demand is there, but they wanted the prices up as punishment for the US and the new Iran deal. You have Iran and Saudi Arabia as regional powerhouses and want control of the region. This is why global politics is affecting US prices today. And becasue Saudi Arabia does not view the United States as an ally now, and has not since the Trump Administration, they will do what is best for them and no one else, while the rest of the world takes the consequences of higher prices. So again, why blame Biden for this unless you want to have the US give in to every demand Saudi Arabia has?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Watch the video pleaes. It's not about 'lies'. It's about the Rules Of The Demagogue.
     
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    One would hope so.
     
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    I’m not the one showing blindness.

    President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is The 46th President of The United States of America. I never called him. “Not My President”

    Trump’s opposition dems, rinos, media & all the other etc’s did call him “Not My president”. That was before he did anything positive or negative as The 45th Duly Elected President of The United States of America named Donald John Trump. The dems, rinos, media & all of the other etc’s. continued using multiple forms of opposition tactics throughout his entire Presidency and beyond as a Former President & an American Citizen.

    I don’t expect any President to be a Superman. I do hope that a President & Their Administration at least try to continue to be a Super Power.

    Prior to COVID whether it was nature or man that struck the world & even during that pandemic… The Trump/Pence Administration did not give up trying to keep America & Her People in the best condition possible…First. If America & Her People are in a poor condition we are useless to the world.

    The Biden/Harris Administration has been playing the blame game and has not taken any responsibility for all of the problems currently in America and also for all of the negative things that are hurting Her People. The entire world having problems is an excuse to enable The Biden/Harris Administration who is currently In Power to not take responsibility for all of their failures to resolve America and Her Peoples problems that are hurting their lives and their children’s lives to implement The Biden/Harris Administration’s political agenda without any care whatsoever for America or Her People. :twocents:
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :applause: Well put.
     
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    HEAR!HEAR! :applause:
     
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    Another HEAR!HEAR! :applause:
     
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    We who are not the sheeple recognize Biden malarkey when we read! :thumbsup:
     
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    My post was not about using a timeline connection for the previous & current administration to prove something or anything. That’s useless.

    My post was about the reality of the actual real life conditions The People of America actually experienced during the two administrations.

    I used comparisons of the real life conditions from both administrations which we have experienced based on which one provided better conditions.

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/better
    1. Adjective (comparative of `good') superior to another (of the same class or set or kind) in excellence or quality or desirability or suitability; more highly skilled than another

    I support legal immigration. The border is currently a security risk for America & all of Her Citizens. Drug cartels own the border & the drugs they bring into America are killing Americans. The drug cartels are getting rich off of those deaths. That is not better. That is the worse thing that can happen to American families… dead Loved Ones. Women & girls are being raped during their journey to America. How evil & disgusting is that?
    To The Ultimate it is evil & disgusting!!! It is most likely rape by multiple men and potential pregnancies. Which makes it beyond The Ultimate evil & disgusting violation of their bodies, souls & minds to live with…unless they are ganged raped and are to injured to continue the journey and are left behind to die. Which goes even further beyond The Ultimate evil & disgusting of all the others… die alone with no one to help them.

    The Biden/Harris Administration is not better than The Trump/Pence Administration. Biden promised he would do so much better than Trump.

    Biden so far has failed miserably.:twocents:
     
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    Sounds like a Democrat training film. "Here's our goal".
     
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    I am going to first answer your post with the following article from the Washington Post:
    I do believe the failures you are talking about are more about him believing (and stating) that more would be accomplished. In simple words, overstating his capability.

    I do not believe that Biden has made many errors where he has to take responsability for. He walked into an almost impossible situation where things have happened that have not been able to be resolved to the liking of the public. Nonetheless, that is not his fault. Covid, inflation, Russian attack on Ukraine, supply problems, etc,. have been problems that have affected everyone in the world and no one has been able to solve them.

    Could someone else done it better? Probably, as we all know (and have known for years), that Biden is not the sharpest, the best, or even the most capable or competent person available. As such, it was unlikely that he would be able to rise to the point of being everything he could be and that was needed to overcome "some" of the problems that he has not been able to overcome.

    Nonetheless, it was him or Trump and Trump would have done much worse. As such, we have to accept what is and look toward the future to see if we can find a better choice in 2024. I do believe though, that the criticism of Biden has been unfair and over the top. He was never expected to be Superman and we should realize that he was never able to be a super man that he himself stated that he would be.
     
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    Your fake WaPo article is as fake as the last WaPo article..

    Once again some on here try to pass sleazy WaPo articles on here like they are the truth...
    ""Some people closest to the president"" Who are these people... Do they have names?"""
    ""Aides also often failed""" Who are these aides do they have names... Did these figments of WaPo made up story actually say that..actually

    WaPo's fake reporting is just getting so old anymore... These journalists actually got Pullitsir prizes for the fake Russiagate and they got away with it and they just make stuff up now in their offices and label it with unnamed anonymous folks that don't exist..
     
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    Wow, fake article, eh?. Is that all that the right can ever come up with to dispute data and information?

    here are a few things that I consider undisputable data and if you can dispute them, I dare you to try

    1) Inflation is found everywhere in the world and we are among the lowest of the developed nations.
    2) Russia/Ukraine war created lots of problems regarding higher oil prices.
    3) There was a slender majority (1) in the Senate that was often lost because Manchin and Sinema would not go along with what Biden wanted to do.
    4) Covid mutated several times into new strains that created problems for all.
    5) Republicans continued to oppose most everything the Democrats offered.

    These are all real problems (no fakes here) that Biden faced.

    So tell me how the article misrepresented these real facts?
    Tell me how Biden could have overcome these problems?

    Debate, debate, and debate with data, facts and truths and stop saying words like "fake reporting" and start addressing these issues with facts as how someone else could have changed the outcome of this.

    I am waiting.
     
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    Blow smoke up someone else's backside... You have no rebutthole and are just trying to slither out from under your fake post.

    Answer the questions about the fake article..

    ""Some people closest to the president"" Who are these people... Do they have names?"""
    ""Aides also often failed""" Who are these aides do they have names... Did these figments of WaPo made up story actually say that..actually
     
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    You mean you actually expect a newspaper to name every aide and every statement of every aide? Do you think the aides even want to have their names known so they can be hassled by people on the right? C'mon be real.

    Bottom line is everything I stated. That is what is tangible and can be analyzed. How come you do not acknowledge that Inflation is world-wide and that we among the countries with lowest inflation numbers. That is data that is easily checkable. Not willing to admit that you are blaming Biden alone for what is happening all over the world for events he has no control over?

    Debating with you is like debating with a script written by the exteme right.
     

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