'I-told-you-so moment': Young voter advocates urge parties to take them seriously after midterms

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its up to GOP to pick their approach to 2024, and it looks like they did not lean from 2022 midterms, where younger generations turned out to reject them. IMO its foolish to dis the younger voters given the fact that the Millenials and Gen-Z are the two biggest generations ever, - bigger than boomers. They do not like the authoritarian path the GOP has taken, and even if they didn't like Dems, they still show up to vote against the GOP.

    'I-told-you-so moment': Young voter advocates urge parties to take them seriously after midterms
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...A14s7Vj?cvid=9a366ba29a0048e7b7627f3c2079eb67
    Young people turned out in droves during the 2022 midterm elections — but not for Republicans.

    Young voters had the second-highest level of youth participation in at least 30 years, according to Tufts University’s Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE). Some 63% of young voters cast ballots for Democrats in House races, with young voters of color voting blue at even greater rates. In Nevada's razor-thin Senate race, which decided control of the upper chamber, young people cast a net 27,000 votes in favor of the Democratic candidate, incumbent Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto — three times Cortez Masto's margin of victory of 8,000 votes over Republican challenger Adam Laxalt.


     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, the Woke Generation rules, alongside their CCP masters.
     
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    I hope republicans keep ignoring them and openly mocking the things they care about.

    With luck the party will be completely destroyed and replaced with something that isn’t a haven for fascism, theocracy and trolling above all else.
     
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    Both sides are "authoritarian" in their own ways.

    Young people tend to be rather stupid and uninformed, and often only see what the media shows them.

    Young people are often not in a position to see the types of ways in which the Left is authoritarian, since that most commonly applies to how businesses must be run and property, which young people do not own yet.
    That, and also that young people do not have a memory stretching that far back, so are more likely to accept any curtailments of certain freedoms in society as normal, since that's all they have ever known.


    Maybe you'd like to tell us exactly in what ways you think the GOP has been "authoritarian"?

    Maybe name something besides the abortion issue? (And even that's not really that "authoritarian" because what they are actually trying to do is have the federal level of government NOT be involved, so as to hand that decision over to the states. That is the federal government would NOT be telling people what to do)
     
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    I hope they enjoy living at home with mommy and daddy. At least until mommy and daddy lose their homes.
     
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    Yeah.

    Venezuela.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has nothing to do with 'woke' or China. They rejected authoritanism, and so should you, but for whatever reason you choose to embrace it.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are they getting wrong about criminalizing abortion and speech?

    You mean like DeSantis and Abbott creating laws to tell businesses how to run themselves (social media), or Florida government trying to force cruise lines to submit to their will, the government going after Disney, and schools etc. Or GOP controlled States preventing pot legalization from getting on the ballot, even though majority of citizens want in. They see it. Everyone sees it, and that is exactly the kind of authoritarian bull-crap they are opposing.

    I think I just did.

    No one cares if its the federal government or State government who is authoritarian, they know who is behind it and who is working towards adding more authoritarian laws, - The Republicans party, and the voters reject it, while you embrace it.

    The question is whether or not they stay the course and lose in 2024, of if they make adjustments. What do you think they should do?
     
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    Young voters haven't a clue about the world around them. Their lived experience has been sheltered for the most part. They haven't acquired much of anything yet and do not have a realistic view of the world and how it works.

    Their votes should be wieghted. Otherwise just offer free Xbox live accounts to your platform and boom

    Biden bought them off with the promise of paid tuitions that works too.
     
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    LOL, that post is rich in irony.

    The fellow who has enthusiastically embraced the blatant authoritarianism of the Church Of The Poisoned Mind during these last 2 years is advising me I should reject authoritarianism. :roflol:
     
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    No clue what you are trying to say, so I stand by what I said.

    Whether or not GOP learned from their mistake remains to be seen, but it seems there are people like you who will deny a mistake was even made, so there is a good chance it will be repeated.
     
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    He's calling democratic ideology authoritarian and he would be correct.

    Your politics have a very "my way or the highway" China esque approach which I despise but which I'm certain we will evolve past because they are all dead ends
     
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    Do you even read your links? This is yet another Fake News Propaganda Point, that enraged youth turned out to defeat the GOP. First, the GOP won, and second, there was no such youth surge.

    Youth portion of the Democrat vote turn out DROPPED to 27% in the 2022 midterm election from 31% in 2018.

    Youth overall vote was down to 12% of all votes, DOWN from '13% youth share of the vote from the 2014 and 2018 midterms according to National Election Pool surveys.'

    Data source: YOUR LINK. Listen, I love Liberals, and I love Liberalism, but, you guys have got to learn to quit falling for all these narratives. I'm confident you can do better.

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    Then why do they fight free speech and include political ideology and grooming in public schools? Why do they hurt the country by importing millions of foreigner future voters? I know the answer but you wouldn't agree with it.
     
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    No one is fighting free speech, and no one is importing anyone. You have been played, and apparently it doesn't take much effort.

    Besides the "they" are younger voters. They rejected Republican authoritarianism, while you embrace it.

    No clue what you are trying to say, but yes, you should reject it, but for whatever reason you embrace it.
     
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    Lots of angry uppity young people will be quick to want to embrace socialism.

    Are you familiar with the story of how Nero burned Rome down and then made sure the blame would get laid on the Christians?
     
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    Sure am. Makes a nice allegory for the democrat party.
     
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    Thanks for trying to explain me what 'my politics' are. The problem is that you get it wrong every time.

    Not all young people live with mommy and daddy. Maybe you did, but not everyone is like you. After all, many Millennials are already in their 40s and are raising their own families.

    Its your leader who is calling for termination of the Constitution. Own it.
     
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    There's a reason democrat politics appeals to an immature mind.

    60% of young adults live with mommy and daddy.
     
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    A lot of them live in regions or areas where young people can barely afford to leave and rent their own place, due to excessive population growth, housing shortages, and high housing prices.

    If that's not enough, immigrants in these areas have grabbed most of the better low skill jobs that younger people might have done in other parts of the country.
    So there is poorer job selection availability on the low end and it's more difficult for a young person (with no educational credentials) to upgrade to something a little better after their first job.

    Some of you who live in conservative rural areas would be surprised at the breadth of jobs that are considered "jobs Americans don't want to do" in New York City or Los Angeles. Well, not surprising they are considered jobs Americans don't want to do when an apartment costs $2,400 a month.
     
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    Yes they are. Twitter coordinated with the Biden campaign to rig the election by suppressing speech. We have been posting on case after case of universities seeking to suppress viewpoints or compel speech and the censorious Left losing time and time again.

    SCOTUS Has Another Chance To Uphold Religious Liberty

    'On Dec. 5, the Supreme Court will hear an appeal from Lorie Smith, who owns a graphic design firm in Colorado and wants to expand her business to include wedding websites. This sounds innocent enough, but the government of Colorado has added an obstacle: it says that if she designs any wedding website, she’ll have to design any website a customer requests.'

    We don't compel speech nor the violation of religious statements.

    'On her company website, Smith writes, “As a Christian who believes that God gave me the creative gifts that are expressed through this business, I have always strived to honor Him in how I operate it. … Because of my faith, however, I am selective about the messages that I create or promote — while I will serve anyone I am always careful to avoid communicating ideas or messages, or promoting events, products, services, or organizations, that are inconsistent with my religious beliefs.”'

    'A gay baker or web designer should not have to create a cake or a website with an antigay message — or indeed a plain cake or website for an organization he finds offensive. “Web designers should be free to choose not to speak for any political movement, no matter how laudable or condemnable it is.”'

    '“They should be free not to create web sites or graphic designs proclaiming ‘White Lives Matter,’ ‘The Nation of Islam Is Great,’ ‘KKK,’ ‘There is No God but Allah,’ ‘Jesus is the Answer,’ or any other message that they cannot in good conscience abide,”'

    'For decades gay people asked for freedom — the right not to be arrested for engaging in consensual sexual relationships, not to be barred from the military and other government jobs on the basis of their sexual orientation, and not to be excluded from marriage. They asked for tolerance and acceptance, for equal rights and equal dignity, for a live-and-let-live approach toward people who may be different from us. Gay activists betray that struggle when they seek to use the power of government to deny tolerance to those with different views.'
    Fake News. We are dedicated to Conserving Constitutional Liberal Democracy.

    Both Parties take young people seriously.
     
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    It is you who is being played.

    I should embrace what you tell me to embrace even though you don't understand what i write? LOL.
     
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    I have not told you to embrace anything, but IMO embracing authoritarianism is a bad idea.
     
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    They say young people are the future. They don't say that because young people have good ideas in the present... You'd be hard pressed to find someone in their 30's or 40's who looks back on their late teens and early 20's and sees someone who was wise in the ways of the world... and no, I'm not advocating to increase the voting age or anything like that. If 18 is an adult, then that should be the cutoff for voting, buying guns and weed, joining the military or getting a sex change (we could discuss increasing the legal age of adulthood, but thats prolly way off topic...). But it is interesting how the least wise and most impressionable of us increasingly tend to vote one way, and those of us with more life experience tend to vote another... I suppose it would be a 'conspiracy theory' to suggest the young are being targetted for propaganda indoctrination to further an agenda because the propaganda is more effective on the most impressionable?

    The Most Impressionable Age Group: Adolescents And Young Adults – ForThePeopleCollective.org
     
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    In the context of voting and 2022 midterms "young" refers to Gen-Z and Millennials =====> Ages 18 to 42, - two largest generations in US history.
     
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