Is Lying the only thing that Trump know how to do - Trump lies about special prosecutor

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  1. CharisRose

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    I remember all of the excuses used for Biden who was definitely not the sharpest, the best, or even the most capable or competent person available to make him appear as if he was actually Presidential material during his candidacy in order to convince The American People that he was actually capable of making things better for America & Her People.

    Trump would have done much worse? There is know way to know he would have done worse than Biden. Since, I think, Trump did have potential based on the things he actually accomplished that made things better for America & Her People during his 1st Term. His first term where he was constantly under a barrage of being condemned in the public square before he did anything positive or negative while In The Office of the Presidency. That constant barrage continued after he left that Office.I think, in spite of being under that constant barrage for years along with all of the extremely difficult and very important matters that every President must deal with during their term In That Office. He overcame that constant barrage and focused on America and Her People.

    I’m tired of the continued excuses that were being used during his Candidacy and have continued being used during his Presidency.

    Making excuses and blaming others for The Biden/Harris Administration’s failings will only result in continued failings.

    Any Administration that is not being held accountable or responsible. Via being excused. Via blaming others for their failings. Will have no incentive whatsoever to change course. Via a new course to do what is Best for America and Her People. Especially, when An Administration is being Praised for being better than the previous Administration. Which is currently a falsehood. imho

    Looking forward to the 2024 future does not help America or Her People currently.
    The criticism of Biden is due to the fact that he IS the current POTUS. Let’s exchange the superman expectation idea with reality…

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-executive-branch/
    The President is both the head of state and head of government of the United States of America, and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. Under Article II of the Constitution, the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws created by Congress. Fifteen executive departments — each led by an appointed member of the President’s Cabinet — carry out the day-to-day administration of the federal government. They are joined in this by other executive agencies such as the CIA and Environmental Protection Agency, the heads of which are not part of the Cabinet, but who are under the full authority of the President. The President also appoints the heads of more than 50 independent federal commissions, such as the Federal Reserve Board or the Securities and Exchange Commission, as well as federal judges, ambassadors, and other federal offices. The Executive Office of the President (EOP) consists of the immediate staff to the President, along with entities such as the Office of Management and Budget and the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
    If interested click the link to read all of the responsibilities of The Executive Branch of Government. Followed by The Vice-President information.
     
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    There was "know (sic) way to know he would have done worse than Biden"?

    Except the 4 years when he was President, that is. And his business ventures were utter failures. The only thing he succeeded at doing was play-acting at being a businessman in a reality TV show. Essentially, he turned out to be pretty good at branding. Which is not a skill that translates well at being a President.
     
  3. Lucky1knows

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    I have repeatedly stated that Trump was the worst president ever. I have shown data, facts, and information to prove the words. In addition, history scholars (all 270 of them) have clearly stated the same thing..........Trump is among the 3 worst presidents ever.

    The few things he did accomplish were done mostly by Congress (such as the tax cut) at a time where the Republicans had the majority everywhere, meaning they did not need anyone else other than Republicans to get things done.

    Trump mishandled Covid in a big way (proven over and over again). Trump created problems for the U.S with the trade war with China, with his demeaning of allied leaders and with his support for division among the parties. There is no reason to think that Trump would have handled inflation any better and many reasons to think he would have done it worse.

    If people cannot pay attention to data, facts and figures that prove a scenario such as I have shown above, then they are not seeking answers, solutions, or reality. All they are doing is looking to blame who they dislike while giving credit where no credit is due.

    End of story.
     
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    ""You mean you actually expect a newspaper to name every aide and every statement of every aide? Do you think the aides even want to have their names known so they can be hassled by people on the right? C'mon be real.""
    Yep.... with WaPo MOST of their articles are never any names and only secret documents only they have read when it can be made ... if they can't produce real people then their story are fake and unverified.. the poorest of journalism by any definition.
     
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    I wouldn’t doubt that for even a second. I have been reading several threads offered by you concerning Trump.
    Please provide the 270 names of those History Scholars. I would like to research them and read their historical reasonings for their conclusions.
    https://universityhq.org/how-to-become/historian-careers/

    Ok you provided and used Data, facts and information to prove to yourself the words “ That Trump was the worst President ever”

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/experience
    Learning by experience is a method of acquiring knowledge by doing and not by reading.
    1. Noun the content of direct observation or participation in an event
    There are 9 types of experiences. I will provide 2 of them.
    Reality/World ~ all of your experiences that determine how things appear to you
    Real Life/RealWorld ~ the practical world as opposed to the academic world

    I think differently than you do. I place experience as the 1st Place over the 2nd place data, facts and information when comparing them to the real life facts that America and Her People had actually experienced during the 4 years of The Trump/Pence Administration and then comparing what has been experienced during the 2 years of The Biden/Harris Administration.

    I think, The Trump/Pence Administration’s real life experience was better.

    When that experience is eventually compared to the numerous excuses combined with the constant blame game playing that is being used to cover up The Biden/Harris Administration current real life failures that America and Her People are currently experiencing. That experience could have The American People currently wondering if it will continue for 2 more years.
    As The American People remember and compare their real life experiences during the 2 Administrations.
    Experience could eventually override that cover up of excuses and the blame game. Time will tell as we get closer to 2024.
     
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    The opinion you have about WAPO is your own opinion.

    Data, facts, and reality do not support your opinion.

    Media Bias Chart | Reference Database Review

    Mediabiaschart.jpg

    and:

    The Washington Post has won the Pulitzer Prize 65 times for its work, the second-most of any publication (after The New York Times). It is considered a newspaper of record in the U.S. Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards.The paper is well known for its political reporting and is one of the few remaining American newspapers to operate foreign bureaus.

    I am not going to say that WAPO does not have a media bias toward the left, given that it does. Nonetheless, its media bias rating is left-of-center but not extreme left.

    Notice in the chart above that WAPO is far above FOX for credible reporting.

    Bottom line is that the reputation of WAPO is far higher than your reputation for knowledge of the news. In addition, you have shown to have an extreme right media bias and WAPO is just "left of center". As such, their assessment of a situation carries a lot more weight than yours.

    Evidently, you will believe whatever you want to believe. Nonetheless, your opinion carries a lot less weight than WAPO.
     
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    LMAO…Yeah, to him they are ******* to be grabbed, abused, then discarded for a younger model.
     
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    ""Data, facts, and reality do not support your opinion.""

    Your fact check site is a FAKE fact check site.... Media Bias is anything but Data, facts, and reality.

    Media Bias Fact Check Literally is a written opinion site by a man with a ""Communications Degree in college"" Dave Van Zandt

    The flagrant and simplistic nature of these bogus critiques suggests that Media Bias Fact Check is either inept and/or dishonest.
    https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest

    Discredited, self-styled ‘fact-checker’ website was served with a ‘cease and desist’ legal notice today for publishing unsubstantiated and defamatory claims against Principia Scientific International (PSI).
    MEDIA BIAS/FACT CHECK site owner admits he is unqualified and misrepresented himself as a seasoned journalist.
    https://climatechangedispatch.com/media-bias-fact-check-site-served-cease-and-desist/

    Media Bias/Fact Check bills itself as "The most comprehensive media bias resource." It's run by Dave Van Zandt, making it fair to say it's run by "some guy" ("Dave studied Communications in college" is his main claim to expertise).
    We have nothing against "some guy" possessing expertise despite a lack of qualifications, of course. One doesn't need a degree or awards (or audience) to be right about stuff. But is Van Zandt and his Media Bias/Fact Check right about PolitiFact?
    https://www.politifactbias.com/2017/10/can-you-trust-what-media-biasfact-check.html

    Media Bias Fact Check Is a Major SCAM to Silence the Right
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/media-bias-fact-checking-scam-silence-right/

    Don't trust Fact checkers, especially not this one. It favors fake news on the left, and to true sites that are not on the mainstream media, it labels as conspiracy theory and junk pseudo science, when the truth is just the opposite. This website is as biased and as full of lies as you get.
    https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/mediabiasfactcheck.com

    Conservatives have criticized the liberal "fact-checking" website for being subjective and often outright false.[19][20][21] On their "10 Best Fact Checking Sites," they list several objectively false and generally inaccurate left-wing "fact-checkers," including PolitiFact, Snopes, and the Fact Checker by the Washington Post.[22]
    Media Bias Fact Check sources its information from the Anti-Defamation League and the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center in order to inaccurately label right-wing websites and organizations as "questionable" sources according to Robert Spencer, who wrote to Media Bias/Fact Check's editor describing the attacks on his website, Jihad Watch, as "pure libel," afterward claiming he received no response from the editor.[23]
    https://conservapedia.com/Media_Bias_Fact_Check

    Perhaps the most jarring instance of these scams is a site called “Media Bias Fact Check” which turns out to be just one guy making up whatever he feels like about news outlets, based on what he admits is his personal opinion, while typically providing no evidence – and then altering the ratings of news outlets who point out his scam.
    https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/

    Overall, such fallacious attacks on outsider-opinion represent an effort to strangle social discourse from the top down. In this writer’s opinion, sites like Media Bias Fact Check constitute a desperate retaliatory measure in the wake of the legacy media’s loss of collective attention, and seek to reinforce narrative control in the hands of organizations like the Atlantic Council while smearing reliable sources of scientific journalism like WikiLeaks.
    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com...ikileaks-supports-western-propaganda-machine/

    If Media Bias Fact Check were to be given a rating, they would be “Left” with “Mixed” honesty. Interestingly enough, they don’t rate themselves. Not that it matters, they’d certainly put themselves squarely in the middle as “Least Biased” with “High” ratings for honesty, neither of which are even remotely true
    https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/topic/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-just-dishonest
     
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    First of all, here are some of the links to the historian rankings of Trump.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...tom-presidents-obama-rises-top-10/7795974002/

    https://truthout.org/articles/trump...-in-survey-of-best-presidents-in-u-s-history/

    Upon checking the articles, I found that they mention 143 historians (instead of 270). I do remember a few years ago, reading an article that stated 270, but I could not find that article again.

    As far as your comment about experience. I have never been a political student but I do have a lot of experience. I have 47 years as a stock analyst and that requires a lot of knowledge about events (including political events) that affect the stock market. I remember clearly how President Carter was
    All the rambling post of yours has NOTHING TO DO with the media bias site. It has to do with overall FACT CHECKS by established organizations that are non-biased.

    As far as SLJ Library Journal that produced the chart:

    Is School Library Journal reliable?

    A source of quality journalism and reviews for more than 60 years, SLJ produces award-winning features and news coverage on: literacy, best practices, technology, education policy and other issues of interest to the school library and greater educator community.

    and:

    School Library Journal
    Magazine

    Description
    School Library Journal is an American monthly magazine containing reviews and other articles for school librarians, media specialists, and public librarians who work with young people. Wikipedia

    It is just that data, facts, and information do NOT SUPPORT your post.

    It is as simple as that. Your information and opinion is false.
     
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    The links do not supply the Names of The Historians. No Names. No Credentials. No Documentation. No Information. Not worthy of consideration.
    Without names, credentials, documentation or information it’s worthless.

    The Jimmy Carter/Mondale Administration (real life experience) was better when compared to The Biden/Harris Administration (real life experience).
    The Trump/Pence Administration was a better (real life experience) when compared to those two faulty Administrations.

    My “idea” concerning a real life experience means comparing all of the positive versus the negative conditions during Administrations.
    Administrations that actually improved conditions for America and Her People via putting America and Her People wants & needs First.
    An Administration that was actually what it should be…
    A Servant Administration to America and Her People bent on improvements.
    What An Administration should not be…
    A self-serving Administration that places it’s political agenda wants and needs first. In spite of the fact that it would negatively cause harm to America and Her People. That is what America and Her People have experienced in their real every day lives and that kind of Administration doesn’t care because that agenda takes priority. The kind of Administration that labels Parents domestic terrorists. What crimes did those parents commit to be labeled domestic terrorists?:twocents:

    Many so called Journalists no longer follow the Code of Ethics - set by the Society of Professional Journalists.
    https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp
     
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    and you believe the Trump administration cared about all Americans and helped them?

    I see the Trump administration caring about:

    1) themselves and their pocketbook
    2) themselves and their power to do whatever benefits them personally
    3) themselves at whatever cost to others.
     
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    Not so, Lucky1knows.
    An inflation rate between 5.9-9% is not a victory one can write home about.
    Facts and Data don't lie. Isn't that what you always say? :) We are not among those countries with inflation rates below 5%.

    Worldwide Inflation by Country 2022 (inflationdata.com)
     
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    I think, Yes, based only on all of the positive policies that were put in place during his Administration.
    In comparison to all of the negative policies that Biden put in place during his Administration.
    Compared the positives and negatives real life experiences of both Administrations.

    The Trump positives outweighed his negatives. The Biden negatives outweighed his positives.

    We see things differently. I see, Biden only caring about a political agenda that has no doubt about it…negatively impacted America and Her People.

    America and Her People are definitely not doing better under The Biden Administration policies compared to The Trump Administration policies.
    :twocents:
     
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    I'm not sure Biden really knows about much more than what his handlers tell him to read on the teleprompter. Those in charge of Biden's personal finances probably loved Trump's tax cuts.
     
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    We certainly see things differently.

    Did Trump damage American democracy? - Brookings Institution

    Ten actions that hurt workers during Trump's first year

    100 Ways, in 100 Days, that Trump Has Hurt Americans

    How Trump's Tariffs Really Affected the U.S. Job Market
     
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    :police: WOKE Police rbheart.gif
    ~ You are in violation of the proper Non-binary nomenclature. This is only a warning ... ✔️

    -:arrow: America and Her Its People ...
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    I highly suspect that Biden is being handled by an at least one or more unelected handler(s) Yes, they probably do love Trump’s tax cuts. But they probably will never admit to that in public.

    I do use Biden’s name in my posts as if he is the real leader of The Biden/Harris Administration but that’s only because no one in the administration has so far admitted or confirmed what we suspect that he is being handled by unelected subordinate(s). If true, (he, she or they)are letting him take the hits for the failures instead of taking the hits. Since, I can’t confirm my suspicion. I will continue to post as if Biden actually is The Real Leader of his Administration.
     
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    ~ We all suspect who the real president is — calling all the shots ...
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    Oh, I am not cutting "dear leader" any slack, and I fully agree with you that he is 100% responsible for what goes on in his presidency even though the elevator doesn't seem to quite make it to his top floor.
     
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    :hiding: NOT!!! :roflol: Her ~ Gaia Mother Earth? Him ~ Father Time?:oldman: Violations!!!?;)

    https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=nomenclature&ref=searchbar_searchhint

    c. 1600, "a name" (a sense now obsolete), from French nomenclature (16c.), from Latin nomenclatura "calling of names," from nomenclator "namer," from nomen "name" (from PIE root *no-men- "name") + calator "caller, crier," from calare "call out" (from PIE root *kele- (2) "to shout").

    Nomenclator in Rome was the title of a steward whose job was to announce visitors, and also of a prompter who helped a stumping politician recall names and pet causes of his constituents. Meaning "systematic list or catalogue of names" is attested from 1630s; that of "system of naming" is from 1660s; sense of "whole vocabulary or terminology of an art or a science" is from 1789. Related: Nomenclative; nomenclatorial; nomenclatural.

    I think Father Time may be in trouble… A “no men clature” A no men “call out”
     
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    Okay. Biden did say he would take responsibility for his Administration. He is 100% responsible for his whole kit & caboodle!
    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/kit-and-caboodle

    in American English
    kit and boodle
    informal (often prec. by whole)
    the whole lot of persons or things; all of something
     
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    Thanks:rolleyes:
     

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