Ukrainian law enforcement shoots 39 pro-Russian activists in Kherson — emergency worker

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    It's like the jews get a pass on everything. If you point out the shitbag jews....anti-semite!
     
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    Expert projection :applause: Well done
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It looks we see the world differently, my source is academic world, you source is...non academic word. I am looking for academic evidence, you are looking for Internet evidence.

    Rothschilds created Israel the same way as James Madison created USA.
    Soros controls USA the same way as Tooth Ferry controls USA monetary system.
    Russia did have a right to invade Ukraine the same way as Hitler did have the right to invade Poland and Russia.

    It is upsetting that many people believe that secret Jewish/Kazar organization control the world? Not at all, here is typical Jewish response:
    Two Jews are riding a train in 1930’s Germany, one of them reading the Jewish newspaper The Forward and the other reading the Nazi paper, Der Sturmer. The Jew reading the Jewish paper asks the other how he can read the Nazi newspaper given their antipathy toward the Jews. He replies: “In your newspaper, things are awful for us. The Nazis are in power, we are losing our jobs, our civil rights, and even our families. It’s all bad news. In my newspaper, the Nazi paper, the news is all good. We own all the banks, we own all the media, really the entire world.”.
     
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    What is an academic? One taught by means of a specific doctrine on a specific subject, who funds the universities? The ones who do the funding also have a say in the curriculum, can guess why? Part of the reason is how to think, not as a free thinker.
    As for one with no academic background, there are no boundaries for what can be learnt. Anything goes and best of all, it was free.

    Did you know that the US was created using 13 colonies, and those 13 colonies were the representatives of 13 Illuminati families? The US is a corporation.
    As for Soros;
    "He has recently been tied to the Clinton Campaign (and not just as a major donor) through revelations from Wikileaks and it is now known that he owns the voting machines in 16 US states, due to be used in the next election. His email archives were recently hacked and leaked showing that he was directly colluding with the powerhouses of Europe to incite a refugee crisis (to what end no one knows). And it is now being suggested that he is the head, or at least a very significant member, of the 7th Floor Shadow US government revealed in the most recent Wikileaks disclosures." https://listverse.com/2016/10/21/10-dark-secrets-of-george-soros/
    George Soros has controlled Ukraine since 2012
    Leaked: George Soros ‘Puppet Master’ Behind Ukrainian Regime, Trails Of Corruption Revealed
    FYI: 206 U.S. organizations funded by George Soros (A very interesting list)

    So Russia did not have the right to "invade" Ukraine, why because they didn't spew out bullshit propaganda to justify their actions, because of 8 years of tolerating Ukraine's/NATOs/USSD's sh!t? While the US is ok to create a false narrative based on false pretences to go into countries that have WMD's etc, only to rape the country of resources and install a puppet government, rrrrrrrright.

    It's not just the Jews, it's a collaboration of globalists, the insanely wealthy such as Gates, Soros, Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, German origins) Klaus Schwab (WEF and nazi heritage) and the rest of these fckers
    The Global Elite: Who Are They?
    Not all Jews are bad, just the ones with ill intent, that's all.

     
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    Why not? You seem to believe the tass article you quoted. Nobody else believes it however.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You answer is perfect – shows exactly what divide us. I think that university teaches you how to think, according to you if you are poorly educated “ there are no boundaries for what can be learnt”.
    There is a famous politician who thinks like you:


    According to you the US is a corporation – I would agree with you, the US is a public corporation, while Russia is a private property owned by Putin, where Putin opposition is murdered, poisoned with Novochok or jailed.

    Now who do we trust: I trust Wikipedia, because they always show the sources of their information. You trust https://cairnsnews.org/
    Who is cairnsnews.org? We don’t know, the owner of this site wants to keep anonymous, and as probably you know, for a about $10/month it can be me, you or other member of this forum.

    Who us https://www.mintpressnews.com
    According to Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News
    About Soros – Soros is a wealthy man who supports political parties which support his views, totally legal action in democratic world, no different than other wealthy men are doing supporting parties on the right.

    There are many similarities between Putin and Hitler - according to Hitler he invaded Poland because Poles committed genocide of German minority and attacked and murder German radio station, according to Putin Ukrainians committed genocide of Russian people and prepared labs to poisoned Russia,
    Hitler supported fascist Span, Russia supports Syria regime of Assad how murdered his people.
    Hitler annexed parts of Poland, Putin annexed part of Ukraine.
    Very similar, right?

    But if you do not live in Russia or other non-democratic regime, you have right to trust any source even in https://www.mintpressnews.com
     
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    My education was not done via indoctrination, told how to and what to think. Students and many people these days lack a core skill, critical thinking. Academia steers clear of teaching this skill, be a good little drone, you're not allowed to think outside the box, you're not allowed to think at all.
    The difference between you and me is that you accept everything (narratives) as gospel. I, on the other hand, question everything that is worthy of my attention. So is the "poorly" educated. Someone who is taught to think outside the box or one who is not?

    Now you do understand how Wikipedia works, don't you? Anyone can provide information (edit & add info), even the CIA and FBI. So you trust this, but you shy away from the info I provide, strange.
    As for CairnsNews.org, if you open your eyes, you'll find the "About" tab. This is what is contained within;
    About

    Main stream media across Australia publish what they are instructed to print by their political and corporate masters . Cairns News publish what they refuse and what you the people need to know.


    So, it was just one site of many. Do you want more to critique?


    But of course, it is. Why wouldn't the establishment state the above, via Wikipedia, :roflol:

    Now what democratic world are you talking about, the one the US Democrats are currently steering? Open borders, the erosion of civil liberties and rights, the introduction of indoctrination of young children all the 'wokeness' sh!t they don't need to be taught. Or what about the US 'interventions' in foreign countries? You know, the ones that the USSD 'negotiate' sh!t deals to these countries and if they say no, a false narrative and false flag operation occurs to justify an 'intervention' because it's not an invasion if there is a false narrative at play. So they get rid of the 'no' man and place their 'yes' man in as a regime change, so they can spread 'democracy', rrrrrrright!

    No, not similar at all.
    Hitler wanted to rule the world, who is similar? The US is. How many bases does the US have? Over 750. How many bases globally does Russia have? 10, with 9 earmarked in Africa, not via regime changes and false flag ops. Yeah, taking over the world.
    Who annexed who? From 1654 most Russian leaders gave Russian land away to Ukraine, the last to give it away was Lenin. He gave away the Donbas region. Since the coup détat in Ukraine in 2014, assisted by the CIA and the USSD, Ukraine and NATO had been ethically cleansing the Donbas regions of the Russian-speaking people. When time and time again, Putin asked them to stop their sh!t. It was ignored, time and time again and we know where it went from there.
    Ukraine-Imperialism.jpg


    So this claim is based on LSM (LameStreamMedia)?
    Putin decided to help the Syrian government in its fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) terrorists and US-backed Al-Qaeda insurgents. Russia’s military support propped up President Bashar Assad, who seemed to be hanging by a thread, as most of the country’s territory was brought back under government control, and IS was routed. You might want to get your info from sources that aren't biased.
     
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    Every education done by indoctrination is WRONG, but this was the way in Soviet Union and today’s Russia education is done. In the Soviet Union the best example of by indoctrination is Trofim Lysenko. In today’s Russia historians who research Stalin’s crimes are defined as Foreign Agents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_foreign_agent_law

    BTW – I am showing Wikipedia links not to convince you, but for people who think that Wikipedia is more trustful than Sputnik, RT (Russia Today), Pravda or anonymous internet sites.

    In the US there are too attempt to make education by indoctrination – in some states there are attempt to ban teaching evolution theory or CRT, but here student can chose school where they teach subjects they like.

    You are absolutely wrong. What I was taught in school is that there are no any gospels, there are theories which can be proved or overturn and there is an evidence which can be good or bad. This is the reason in the US we can study Marxist economy, Milton Friedman economy or Keynes economy.
    The difference between us is what we consider an evidence.
    I don’t trust web site which want to keep the owner secret, you trust it.
    But I agree that you think outside the box – any theory without any evidence you are ready to accept, I am not.

    Yes, I know how Wikipedia works, because once I changed the Wikipedia content. There are some supervisors who check if the change was done with the proper standards – the proper standards they mean to show evidence (sources) of your information. I don’t think the Wikipedia will accept as the source a web page whose owner wants to be anonymous.

    If you trust the “About” tab, it means you have no idea how the Internet works. Here is how it works: for about $5/month I can rent a sever, for about $15/year I can register name “UniteNextTime.com” and for about $15/year you can make the owner of the site anonymous. Then I can create a site where clicking on the “About” tab will show: “My name is UntilNextTime, Nobel prize winner and I specialize in Quantum Physics”. And because my site anonymous, I will pay from account located in Bahamas, you will have very time to prosecute me.
    Still trusting the “About” tab?

    Policy of the US is another broad topic, we are talking Russian invasion of Ukraine, or in case you live in Russia, I don’t want to hurt you – we are talking about “Special Military Operation”

    Well, you convinced me. You convinced me that maybe in Russia there are people convinced that it is not Putin, but the US similar to Hitler. Latter I will create a thread showing friendship and cooperation between Russia and Nazi Germany and the real reason Russia decided to fight Germany.

    Wrong again. This claim is based on DCSM (Democratic Countries Stream Media) while LSM (LameStreamMedia like Sputnik, RT – Russia Time, Pravda) support the claim that Russia is supporting Peace Fighter, Champion of Freedom, Democracy and Human Rights - Bashir al-Assad.
     
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    When have I quoted these sites?
    I am more willing to accept the truth I have discovered, and not the supposed truth trying to be shoved down my throat and thrown in my face.
    Have you considered why some may want to remain anonymous after relaying controversial information? So it makes them a harder target to find by the censorship nazis and be ridiculed.
    Those who don't or can't accept an 'outside the box' perspective would call a topic a conspiracy theory because to them it challenges their paradigm. When there is evidence for the conspiracy the theory part gets dropped, but many can't get their heads around that.
    When too many people put their two cents worth into a narrative/topic, it morphs into Chinese whispers. The narrative changes and the original direction goes off on a tangent.
    I don't pay to read the content o any sites. The purpose of me showing you the "About" tab is the following;
    Main stream media across Australia publish what they are instructed to print by their political and corporate masters . Cairns News publish what they refuse and what you the people need to know.
    Or did you miss that the first time?
    You had been banging on about "Democracy" and merely challenged the token word as to its definition and the example used was the US. As they totally have morphed what it is into something much different. And if you perceive that I am Russian and live there, you're more deluded than I first thought.
    So, tell me. Why is it so offensive that what Russia has done is any different to what Israel has done to Palestine or the US to Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Syria etc? Is it because they don't control western LSM and spread their propaganda bullshit and create false narratives to justify their actions?
    When you realise what Ukraine was and is, who and what is influencing this faecal matter region, what these outside influences have been doing with Ukraine, maybe then an understanding can be met to those who think otherwise of the situation.
    Is this because it is very different to LSM that you trust with your life, so anything else is rubbish? Rrrrrrright.

     
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    Someone should tell him that 15k dead civilians is nothing compared to 250k civilians that US killed in Iraq alone.

    So if atrocities = killing civilians
    Then America has Russia beat as far as committing these atrocities
     
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    This study reveals that U.S. military forces were directly responsible for about 10 to 15 million deaths during the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the two Iraq Wars. The Korean War also includes Chinese deaths while the Vietnam War also includes fatalities in Cambodia and Laos.

    The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

    But the victims are not just from big nations or one part of the world. The remaining deaths were in smaller ones which constitute over half the total number of nations. Virtually all parts of the world have been the target of U.S. intervention.

    The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.

    https://countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm
     
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    Sorry, I just forgot which websites you trust, can you show them it again?

    Fantastic explanation why someone who discovered an evidence, but want to remain anonymous, because it will be harder to ridicule these theories, or accuse him in court for lying. Yes, if the only evidence of crime or conspiracy is an anonymous article, only people who think outside the box can believe it.

    Me, and many people who read and quote Wikipedia didn’t find it is "Chinese whispers" or "the narrative changes and the original direction goes off". Maybe Wikipedia is too difficult for some people. Who knows, maybe for such people we need special, simpler version of Wikipedia.


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    Yes, I suspect you live in Russia, because you are using Russian slang. Russia invaded Ukraine the same as the US with other countries invaded Iraq. To claim that Russia did not invaded Ukraine. it is only "special military operation" is the same as claiming that the US did not invaded Iraq, Argentine did not invaded Falkland Island or Russia did not invaded Georgia, Afghanistan or Finland, only there was a "special military operation".


    It is very simple – the US, joined by the United Kingdom, Australia, and Poland ILLEGALLY INVADED Iraq the same was as Russia ILLEGALLY INVADED Ukraine. There some minor differences – Iraqi regime was a brutal regime who murdered thousand, gassed civilian population, while Russia invaded a democratic country.
    I am against invasion of Iraq, the same as I am against invasion of Ukraine. And how about you? Why do you support invasion of Ukraine, but you are against invasion of Iraq?

    When you say “what Israel has done to Palestine” – what do you mean?
     
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    Anything but LSM
    Why do those who make the official narratives hide behind security?
    https://citizentruth.org/operation-mockingbird-cia-media-manipulation/
    https://stopworldcontrol.com/media/
    https://www.mediavsreality.com/mediavsreality2/2019/9/2/the-brutal-truth-about-the-mainstream-media
    https://strategic-culture.org/news/...uscates-war-crimes/?ysclid=l80rm8cnq526933105
    No, because those who use Wiki are too lazy to find info. Wiki is the lazy researcher's bible.
    Ahahaha. What fcken bullshit! Your suspicions are very wrong. What slang might that be I use?
    Ok, why did the US invade the countless countries it has?
    Then what is your version of why Russia did what it did to Ukraine?
    So you're using the LSM version of what occurred in the Iraq/US conflict? Did it occur to you that the gas attacks on the Iraqi people were done by the CIA and a false narrative to coincide with the false flag operation? If the Hussien regime was so brutal for so long, why wasn't anything done sooner? Because it was all bullshit, US hegemony.
    Ukraine a democratic country? Pffft. It was before 2014 as the USSD had a keen interest in fcking over that country so they created a coup.* Explains the history of very well.
    https://rumble.com/vwjn3v-2014-ukraine-coup-victoria-nuland-geoffrey-pyatt-leaked-phone.html
    https://www.brighteon.com/bb6d345e-c7ae-4980-a8ac-5fb5b730f8c0*

    I served under this guy 33 years ago. He is one man I trust and trusted with my life. Ricardo explains it well.
    https://rumble.com/vxob37-former-australian-special-forces-commander-riccardo-bosi-on-ukraine.-.html

    and in addition to the above,
    https://rumble.com/vwa2sl-ukraine-70-years-of-cia-deep-state-in-ukraine.html

    Israel is a state created by the Rothschilds after WWII. Land grabs and genocide of the Palestinian people are what the Israeli military/government are doing.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I checked the sites you trust:
    https://citizentruth.org – interesting leftist opinions with whom I mostly agree. I didn’t see any conspiracy theories. What is strange, I don’t see recent info about Russian invasion or Ukraine, it looks that the site is dead in 2922.

    https://stopworldcontrol.com
    “For two decades, David Sorensen had a Christian ministry in Europe, where he published many books.”
    I am atheist, so usually I don’t trust pastors, rabbis or imams. I am not sure if this is the same David Sorensen:
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/second-white-house-staffer-resigns-after-abuse-allegations

    https://www.mediavsreality.com anonymous

    https://strategic-culture.org - all nameservers are located in Russia. I don’t trust a country where calling invasion – invasion or criticizing a president is a crime.

    But of course you can trust any LSM you want.

    Agree, there are better sources than Wikipedia, although Wikipedia is almost as good as Encyclopedia Britannica and for sure better than anonymous site you trust:
    https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/study-wikipedia-as-accurate-as-britannica/
    I still suspect you are afraid of Russian legal authorities. Why a person who lives in the West are afraid to call an invasion – “invasion”? According to all definitions of the English language Russia INVADED Ukraine, plain and simple, only people who are afraid of the legal consequences will call Russian invasion a “special military operation”.

    Why Russia invaded Ukraine – there are many theories, I am not sure which one is true, but I would put my bet on the one which says Russia elites were afraid of democratic country in their neighborhood. Putin believed that the West is weak and the same as the West gave up Czechoslovakia to Hitler in 1938, the West will not protect Ukraine. Putin also believe that Biden is senile, weak man who will not stand up to a macho Putin.

    The gas attacks on Kurds was done in 1988 during George H. W. Bush presidency. If it was done by the CIA and not by Saddam, it means CIA is very, very smart – they knew that in 2003 US president will be George W. Bush and he will convince the US Congress to ILLEGALLY invade Iraq. I don’t think CIA is so smart, but if you trust LSM, for sure they convinced you.

    And you didn’t answer my question: Why do you support invasion of Ukraine, but you are against invasion of Iraq?

    According to the West academia Israel was not created by Rothschilds.
    According to the West academia until 1948 all land which Jews own was legally purchased from a legal owners.
    According to the West academia in 1948 in Palestine there were areas where Jews were majority on the legally purchased land.
    According to the West academia in 1948 the UN decided partition Palestine to w Jewish and Arab part – Jews accepted the UN resolution, Arab rejected and invaded Jewish country. Jews won and conquered more lands.
    Until Arabs countries refused any talks with Israel until after Yom Kippur war.

    There was not genocide of Palestinians, but during the 1948 Jews and Arabs killed each other. Jews expelled some Arabs from conquered territories, but Arabs expelled ALL Jews from conquered territories.

    Of course LSM (Lame Stream Media) have different version of these events.
     
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    What?! Only 250k? Surely you can make up a bigger than that. Say 1 million Iraqi civilians. I know! A billion Iraqi babies died at the hands of the evil Americans. That means at least 40 billion Iraqi civilians were killed by the U.S. armed forces. Some say that number is ludicrous but they're obviously U.S. CIA stooges.

    Meanwhile, fewer than 6,000 Russian soldiers have died while Putin has to draft forcibly more than 300,000 of his citizens . . . nothing fishy about that figure.
     
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    Tools ignore facts

    "No one knows with certainty how many people have been killed and wounded in Iraq since the 2003 United States invasion. However, we know that between 184,382 and 207,156 civilians have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through October 2019

    Because not all war-related deaths have been recorded accurately by the Iraqi government and the U.S.-led coalition, the numbers are likely much higher. Several estimates based on randomly selected household surveys place the total death count among Iraqis in the hundreds of thousands.

    Several times as many Iraqi civilians may have died as an indirect result of the war, due to damage to the systems that provide food, health care and clean drinking water, and as a result, illness, infectious diseases, and malnutrition that could otherwise have been avoided or treated."

    https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

    Yeh. Brown University, a private Ivy League research university, must be a Russian bot or something
     
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    Are you making this statement from personal experience?
    184,382 to 207,156 = 250,000 . . . Is that some of that new math?
    Or was it made up based on this vague statement.
    hmm . . .
    Does "alone" now mean the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces?

    Well, if we're counting deaths in that silly ridiculous way, the U.S. murdered 6 million Jews in WWII.
     
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    "No one knows with certainty how many people have been killed and wounded in Iraq since the 2003 United States invasion. However, we know that between 184,382 and 207,156 civilians have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through October 2019

    "Because not all war-related deaths have been recorded accurately by the Iraqi government and the U.S.-led coalition, the numbers are likely much higher.

    Several times as many Iraqi civilians may have died as an indirect result of the war, due to damage to the systems that provide food, health care and clean drinking water, and as a result, illness, infectious diseases, and malnutrition that could otherwise have been avoided or treated."

    Reading comprehension fail

    In Iraq alone means just Iraq. Not the scores of other nations that US invaded and/or inacted regime changes in.

    There only 3 countries that US hasn't invaded or saw their troops deployed there.
     
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    Yes, I would say that you definitely have had a reading comprehension failure. Thank you for admitting it.

    Once again a small percentage of the deaths reported were caused by the U.S. armed forces in the statistical source you gave. Your source added deaths from every source in order to spike the number. Similarly, gun-grabbers always include suicides when stating deaths through "gun violence". And yes, if we counted the way you are, then the U.S. murdered 6 million Jews in WWII. And that's silly.
     
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    I did, via the video link supplied. Open your eyes!
    How can I be Russian? When I have central European ancestry and served in the Australian military. Don't you think I would have been flagged if I was what you claim is true?
    Can you see now how your perceptions are wrong, I wonder how many more of your perceptions on many other things are also wrong. Afraid of Russian authorities? Why would I be, I have nothing to fear from any entity.
    In most cases, these people are selected, not elected.
    The CIA is very crafty, don't forget their origins, nazi, SS and Gestapo. They have conducted many false events and coups in many countries to oust a government/regime that says no to the US.
    Don't be so naive. The CIA is very cunning in what they do.
    Guess who did the dirty work for Bush?:above:
    I don't trust LSM, I know you don't question any narrative that they churn out. Don't forget what LSM is.
    Really?
    https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/jacob-rothschild-admits-his-family-was-involved-in-creating-israel/
     
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    Wow....we're doing pretty f@cking good then ...if that's "all" were responsible for.....must be collateral damage mixed in too?

    Let's see....Stalinist,Marxist/Leninist Mafiosi back in the day responsible for 50-70 million dead....along with Commie Chinos whose #s are through the rough....but continuing bloviating your diatribe "Fallen" and can't get up....:).
     
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    LOL....CIA has "NAZI" origins....really how so?....another delusional claim?....timey?

    How about Roswell....?....Nazis too?:roflol:
     
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    No you didn’t, two duds are spreading conspiracy theories about Ukraine not knowing Ukrainian history and I commented these clips, but you didn’t answer..
    One smart Jew (called by some PF members – a Khazar) said:
    If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.
    You don’t have to answer, I think I know why you didn’t answer.

    Again, you are pointing to the difference between us – you trust anonymous sources, I don’t, I want to see evidence first. There is no evidence who you are, you can be Russian, Australian or my next door neighbor, the only evidence I have that you are using Russian ‘newspeak’. In English language we know what invasion is, for you there was no invasion, there was a ‘special military operation’. Why a person who lives in a free world insist on using Russian ‘newspeak’?
    I asked you why do you support Russian invasion of Ukraine and do not support American invasion of Iraq – you refused to answer. My theory – you are what Lenin called …. or you live in Russia or you work for Russia.


    In previous post I PROVED that Russia supported Nazi even more that the US. You convinced me to write this post:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/ukraine-russia-and-nazis.605934/

    So now the elections in the US does not mean anything because “In most cases, these people are selected, not elected.”? Any evidence except posts by some people who have no tools to prove it?
    It looks you are listening too much to LSM.

    Really, even your post is not claiming that Israel was created by Rothschilds. Rothschilds helped to create Israel, but there were another people who helped to create Israel too. You don’t trust Wikipedia, but Encyclopedia Britannica also is not claiming that Israel was created by Rothschilds:
    https://www.britannica.com/place/Israel/History

    So it arise a natural question why you and some other people are CONVINCED that Israel was created by Rothschilds. The answer is very simple – for many people Rothschilds symbolize evil, so if evil created Israel – it means Israel is evil too – and this is what LSM (Lame Stream Media) constantly talking about.
     
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    No, I want you to work it out and you know it's true what Ukraine is and its origins. It is not a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy. Far too much evidence that you want to ignore and dismiss. The answer to your question is that Ukraine is the cesspit of evil. Look at all the corrupted governments of the world who pay homage to Ukraine, in particular the US.
    Maybe you're right, I don't know much about Ukraine, but I know enough to know where all sh!t of the world comes from. If you feel the need to educate me, do so. I look forward to what you'll want to convince me that Ukraine is, a wholesome and righteous place.
    You fail again to READ! When you state "anonymous", are you referring to yourself or to both of us? As my source, the one you call "anonymous" is ambiguous. When I served with and trust this individual. His information was verifiable in my past, and he is now.
    AHAHAHA, Russian 'newspeak' WTF are you and those whispering in your ears on? Just because I have an obvious difference of opinion, does that make me Russian? :roflol:Or, how about. If I was colour blind, and I told you that everything is just black and white, does that make me a racist?
    A bit like you. You don't answer all my questions, hey?
    The US does all of its operations based on false narratives and false flag events. So it can maintain its status quo on its hegemony of the world.
    There is a difference between you and me tremendously. You see Russia as evil because it has justified reasons for its actions, whether you see them or not is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, is that the US, NATO and Ukraine have been fighting this war with Russia now for over 8 years. The media only decided to broadcast Russian force's movements into Ukraine in February of this year. Not mentioning the fact that Eastern Ukraine had been firing upon western Ukraine and was being shelled where Russian-speaking people lived. Sounds like genocide, yes?
    You stated they never had anything to do with Israel's creation. I proved my point. What else do you want?
    I did state that not all Jews are evil. Did you forget that, oh, you did?
    Wrong usage of my term LSM. LSM = MSM (MainStreamMedia). I pay no mind to LSM, as you do.

    And what do you want to gain from this conversation of back and forth?
     
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    Prove it. With sources that are beyond questioning.
     

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