Black Panther tops box office.

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I can think of far worse than that *cough*Cats*cough*Battlefield Earth*cough. But I agree with your overall point - between Strange World and the Buzz Lightyear movie, sometimes it seems as if Disney has forgotten who its audience is.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I actually had students who thought Wakanda was real when BP came out. Like, you could get on a plane and fly there. It was similar to people who read too much HP Lovecraft and go to Boston thinking Miskatonic University is real. That really happens.

    I mean, I had one kid who said that Chadwick Boseman was the Black Panther. He didn't think he was an actor portraying a fictional character - this kid thought Boseman was the actual King of Wakanda.
     
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    No. That would prevent the destruction of what is left of white western culture. Segregation is out.
     
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    I never saw it in the theater, I wanted a showing for umpires only.

    Because of their uniforms umpires are often addressed "Blue".
     
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    Not true. During the Civil War, the North was forced to issue paper money after 1861 to pay for the war. The South issued paper money from the beginning. After the war, the Federal Government continued to rely on paper money, and there was no parity between gold and paper money. If you wanted a $10 gold piece, you had to pay a premium in paper money for it.

    This situation was not resolved until the end of the Grant administration in 1876. Grant considered it to be one of the great accomplishments of his his presidency.

    So far as paying taxes, gold was required to pay import duties. Paper worked for everything else.
     
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    Haven’t we moved on since then?
     
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    You know - there are people who deny the existence of Great Zimbabwe

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    LMAO, now that thar is some of that fine Leftist "Follow the science" mentality :)
     
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    Kids have vivid imaginations.
     
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    We?
     
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    So does anybody. You ever hear of a dull imagination?

    People who think fictional places are real need to look at maps. Remember the old PHANTOM (the ghost who walks) comic strip? Just where WAS that anyhow?
     
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    It also amazes me how many people think being a mutant means you're Jennifer Lawrence painted blue when it's really just having 6 fingers. Impossible is impossible. You can't lift a shopping mall just because it's pk.
     
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    The first one was quite interesting in terms of isolationism/nationalism vs becoming part of the outside world. Plus the characters were very well fleshed out compared to other Marvel films; it's one of the only Marvel films people point to as having a decent villain.
     
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    What about the film was racist?
     
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    All of it. The idea that you have this black nation ruled by superheros. Is Spiderman even Mayor let alone President?
     
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    being rules by superheroes is terrible, but it isn't racist. Also, need to check my lore, but the Black Panther is the superhero. While often ALSO the ruler, that ain't necessarily so. The new Black Panther in this movie, for example, isn't a ruler. Why should superheroes be disqualified from running at all anyway? Why couldn't Spiderman be a mayor? But, back to the main point: how is it racist?
     
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    . . . the whole point of the first movie involved the nation getting OUT of segregation. That was the whole ****ing thing.
     
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    Fleshed out? Sorry but I don’t know what you mean here. So isolationism and nationalism is a African culture that was on display in this film. How did it depict this? By a fictional force field? By a fictional power that produces said effects of nationalism where they can thrive without outside help?
     
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    Their thriving was only due to their unique resources, which (IMO) is the only way any isolationist/nationalist faction prospers and even then it would benefit better from opening up. But for the fleshed out part, I was talking about the characters specifically. Marvel, as much as I love them, is starved for well-written villains. They hit the nail on the head for this one. And, again, the hero of the film REVERSES the isolationist practices. That's, again, part of the whole point. Yes, there was a fictional force field which was eerily similar to Atlas Shrugged. That was the plot device. The shield comes down.
     
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    I fail to see isolationism as an African culture. Many African countries are part of the world trade markets. I wouldn’t call that isolationism. Plus that’s not a cultural trait. That’s a political position that has been practiced in countries outside of Africa as well. That’s not a culture specific to Africans.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean. I never said it was. The FICTIONAL nation involved is isolationist. Nor would it matter whether or not it was "a culture specific to Africans" or a continent-spanning "cultural trait." Why would the second largest continent in the world have a single defining "cultural trait" anyway?
     
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    It was pretty good. Not my favorite, but far from the worst from Marvel. Namor was pretty awesome and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with him in the future -- another example of Marvel FINALLY having a decent antagonist.
     
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    Yes. It was because of vibranium. And their silence during those events and later ones was kind of a big part of the motivation for the antagonist of the first film.
     

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