Indiana AG seeks punishment for doctor who provided abortion to 10-year-old rape survivor

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    For a 10 year old to give birth to a baby would endanger her life

    I would have to research the odds of not harming the girl via cesarean and if that is an acceptable procedure then I wouldn't support an abortion for late term. If it does pose a Much higher than normal threat to her life then then I would support an abortion --it all depends on what the research indicates.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So is what is inside her.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    #29 shows that the AG's 'cause' was not based on facts, hence my statement.

    I"m against persons holding an office of public trust punishing doctors without sufficient predication.

    Therefore, given the facts as I understand them, you are asking the wrong question.
     
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    MuchAdo Well-Known Member

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    It’s not all about the physical trauma of cutting through the six layers of the abdomen and subsequent pain of recovery. How about the mental trauma? The lack of concern for this child is alarming.
     
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    A fetus. The child was raped and you don’t seem to give one ***** that she is a traumatized victim. I think in this case an abortion was the only way to go. Mentioning a c-section is ridiculous.
     
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    No, it was based on reportage countering the AG's 'predication'.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Physician, heal thyself.
     
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    What was inside of her was a fetus, not a "child".
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    That, too. But actual threat to physical health is paramount.
     
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    Says who?
     
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    How is it a HIPPA violation ?
     
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    It actually isn’t a HIPPA violation.
     
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    And the ultimate Irony here is that you don't see the Irony in YOUR post ;)
     
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    it's really sick that some on the right want to force 10 year old rape victims to have their rapists babies
     
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    BBBBBbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuttttt they reported a procedure, and stuff!

    HiPPA!!!

    You know what else? They're actually replacing IRS employees who've retired! Heeeelp!!
     
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    "Deputy Attorney General Caryn Nieman-Szyper said during a court hearing last week that Bernard wouldn’t be under investigation if she had not disclosed the girl’s rape to a reporter to advance her own advocacy of abortion rights."

    so it wasn't because the AG thinks there was a real crime, this was political?
     
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    I should think that be the primary focus of a medical doctor, who is not trained in psychiatry.

    But, what do I know?
     
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    You all still haven't bothered to mention how old the fetus was.

    You start a story complaining about someone being punished for abortion, and don't tell us the gestational age of the fetus.

    Was this a fetus who was close to being able to survive on its own, outside the womb?
    We're left to use our imaginations.
     
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    Doctors are capable of considering the mental impact of any medical procedure without being a psychiatrist.
     
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    No, you are only left to use your imagination if you cannot figure out how to look for the relevant information. The doctor received the call when the child was 6 weeks 3 days pregnant and said the girl was on her way to see very soon after she got the call, so not even close to viability.
     
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    Maybe I am wrong, but isn't this the story where they believe the stepfather who was molesting the girl was the one who drove her to get the abortion?

    So this was about trying to cover up his crime.

    Fair to guess the molestation probably continued after the abortion?
     
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    Source? or are you making this up because you can no longer rant about the fetus being viable?

    He won’t be doing any molesting anymore.

    Fuentes was arrested on July 12, and he confessed to raping the child, according to separate documents filed in Franklin County municipal court. He was charged with the rape of a minor and if convicted, faces a life sentence, as well as deportation, the documents …
     
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    The entire right wing response here is ridiculous....and predictable. If you spend long enough thinking about women as lesser beings whose sole function is providing sexual gratification & incubating foetuses then the idea they might be traumatized or even die isn't something you care about.
     
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    The exact date of the abortion was June 30th. The child was nine when she was raped.
     
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    I think this girl was already very traumatized. You know, being repeatedly molested, and then driven across state lines by her abuser to get an abortion.

    I've talked to a woman who was molested as a girl and had an abortion forced upon her by her family. Abortion CAN be traumatic. (Yes, of course she was very traumatized by the sexual abuse but she says the abortion at that age and knowing that her baby was killed and she was given no choice about it added to the trauma and post traumatic stress disorder she still suffers) Well anyway, this girl is damaged goods and an emotional wreck, difficult to imagine her being any more emotionally damaged than she is. Half the trauma is even knowing that she was forced to conceive a new life. Whether or not that new life was killed before it came out.
     
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