CA: 25 law enforcement recruits hit by wrong-way driver; 5 critically injured

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't released on bail. He was released because of a "lack of evidence".

    There's NOTHING fishy about that...lol
     
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    Weep what ?

    Intent has not been determined yet.

    FFS the right is just making it up as they go along. Look, it MIGHT be intential, but as of yet no MOTIVE has been determined. It may very well be a attack against police as the motive, or it may just be a mentally unstable person. ALL I have said is lets wait for the facts to come out, instead of each side trying to determine a outcome to fit a predetermined narrative
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    St Augustine will argue for me. (Augustine said the soul was emplaced at birth.)
     
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    If you read the link you will see it didn't cost him a penny.
     
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    Not my place either way but St Augustine would make a great companion.
     
  7. FatBack

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    You don't get charged with attempted murder for something like that unless there's some valid and probable cause to believe that charge is appropriate.
     
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  8. Space_Time

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    Per the Miranda warning he has the right to remain silent:
     
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    There's enough here to go on to form the reasonable conclusion that the guy did it on purpose.

    I know that upsets the left around here because they're trying to paint the right is conspiracy theorist for jumping to the conclusion but the conclusion is actually well grounded.
     
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    Sometimes that happens. Just means more evidence is needed before probable cause is used for said arrest.
     
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    There is no doubt the guy did it The question is was it on purpose. Witness testimony in and of itself is not enough to arrest or convict. It has to be the preponderance of the evidence.
     
  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Right, because the fact he was driving the vehicle that ran down those folks wasn't enough probable cause...lol
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Warts? I identify as someone who calls liberals warts. Do those liberal warts have rights?
     
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    Large group of people, so many of them were hit.

    Or some sort of medical issue.
     
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    Or he was blinded and going the wrong way to what he thought
     
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    I think the police are trying to make a case for intentional driving into the crowd. There is some evidence of that, but not conclusive enough. This tells me that the wrong charge was being used. California does not have any specific laws of using a vehicle for assault. It may be simple assault here, even if it was reckless. But next week, we shall see. There are some witnesses who say he did not do or appear to do it intentionally. And some said he did, mostly significant others of those police and sheriff recruits.

    Furthermore, a breathalyzer test is not the end-all for DUI. A blood test is more accurate than a breathalyzer. I would have asked if he wanted blood drawn. If he said no, then I would have gotten a court order to do so. But that blood draw needs to be done within 8 hours of the incident to have any accurate results.
     
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    Not really. Some have been that way, but some have included other reasons as well such as weather, reckless speeding, etc.
     
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    It was the number of people that had something to do with it and it was police officers and sheriff deputy recruits. If it was BLM protesters, it would have been $1 with no mention of intentional driving. He is young, and Hispanic. And there is evidence that race/ethnicity plays a part on the amount of bond with the same crime.
     
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  20. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    At the very least there are 25 counts of negligence. That's enough to hold him.
     
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    Inevitably, the suspect's attorney says it was an accident:
     
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    Criminal negligence is involuntary manslaughter under the California penal code. There is civil negligence, but that is not criminal. What they have him on is reckless driving, a class B misdemeanor under California state law, with very little jail time and fines.
     
  23. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    25 people went to the hospital. We are (were?) are critical. They have more than just reckless driving.
     
  24. Space_Time

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    If he's tired then why is he driving:
     
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    I think the healing process will take a long time:
     
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