Gavin Newsom's reparations committee will recommend handing out $223,200 per person to all descendan

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  1. Esau

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    the myth of "Irish slaves," an ahistorical reimagining of real events weaponized by racists and conspiracy theorists before the Web and now reaching vast new audiences online...

    Predictably, this revisionism has attracted Neo-Nazis, White Nationalists, Neo-Confederates, and even Holocaust deniers, while racist trolls have deployed the myth to attack the Black Lives Matter movement. More worrisome, though, is its widespread adoption by principally American Internet users as if it were a point of "Irish pride." ........

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    its this kind of attitude from whites that could only exacerbate racist feelings of black folk, towards whites.
     
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    Do you have a point, or did you just want to squeeze an anti-whites comment, into the thread?
     
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    Didn't see your point besides cramming in an anti black comment like we don't have enough here.
     
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    Where are they going to get the money:
     
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    Lil Bill Maher educating all the progressive dipshits about slavery.



    https://etymology.net/slave/

    "The classification and stigma of slavery is referred to in medieval Latin as sclavus, in relation to the Byzantine Greek sklábos, being a derivation of sklabēnós, which translates as ‘Slavic’, originally as a self-reference for the Slavic people, as slovĕninŭ, who were geographically located mostly in Eastern Europe, and who suffered the abuse of the Spanish Muslim community in the ninth century."

    Slavs were white. So. There ya go.
     
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    While I agree, that freed slaves should have been allowed their mule and 40 acres, I don't think the bolded part of your post, necessarily follows. Even if, logically, it did, it would be an obligation of the FEDERAL, not the STATE government. So, it is hard to tie this back to slavery. Granted, there has been much injustice since the official end of slavery. As I'd said earlier, however, this seems like a reason to address inequities, in the system, for long term remediation. I don't see checks to individuals, as accomplishing that. I fear, however, that is what the trade- off would be. That is, that it will be politically tenable, to do all sorts of things, to aid black businesses, black communities, black education, black families, and black people (as in their treatment, by police), or perhaps it will be possible to send individual checks (though it is still hard for me not to believe there would not be a stiff political backlash, to that). But it is almost assured, that we won't see both.
     
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    as to the underlined part, its this kind of attitude from whites that could only exacerbate bad feelings of black folk, towards whites.
     
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    You should!

    Given so few people have written evidence of slave ancestry, California will have no choice but to engage in eugenics, or just accept self-identification. Either way it's a legal nightmare - let's hope they feel every bit of that horror. Might finally knock some decency into them.

    I honestly can't wait to see how these reparations-happy politicians will determine who is black. For me, that's EVERYTHING. It's going to be the most regressive and awful thing to happen in Western society in generations, and it will be their own fault (for validating the idea of self-identification, and for all their racism).
     
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    Also, let's see how long it takes for the recipients to claim it's 'not enough', and for those not yet adults to claim their turn, ad infinitum.

    Anyone naive enough to think this will be a one off, needs a mental health evaluation. This is just the tip of the iceberg. A corrupt precedent, whose purpose is still a little opaque.
     
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    and so it should. Landed gentry sitting on property earned from slave plantations need to be put to task right now! Statues of slavers need to be dismantled and put in museums dedicated to the horrible legacy of slavery in America
     
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    That's why any reparations plan that requires proof of slave ancestry will be a disaster. 23andMe won't cut it, because of the proliferation of black migration to the US after slavery. People who came to the US from the Caribbean or Africa may have been slaves, but not in the US. So likely the actual reparations checks will go to upper middle class and wealthy black families who can afford the extensive genealogical research required. Poor blacks will of course get nothing.
     
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    If a reparations bill is passed there will be a million lawyers spring up out of nowhere offering to get that cheque for them, with a 20% cut of course but still, that's the pay day descendants will welcome and something lawyers all over the nation will want a chunk of.

    Meaning, every man (descendant) and his DOG will be compensated as every slaver and his dog were.
     
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    That's possible, but it assumes that most of those genealogical searches are successful in order to pay off. But like I said, I support California doing this. It will be a fun experiment.
     
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    Which is better? CA politicians spending all that revenue on more boondoggles? Or ordinary black Americans living in CA spending it to meet their needs?

    Easy choice -- give it to the black Americans suffering under CA's Big Bad Government. Then double it.
     
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    Okay, let's hear your method for determining who is black, Esau. Tell us how it should be done.
     
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    Yep. And then of course they'll become a victim sub-group, who will demand reparations for the reparations they didn't get. Again, these are all tips of a yuge iceberg. The self-identity thing is a precedent they've already set, so legally they will have to acknowledge it. Failure to recognise the Rachel Dolezals will mean discrimination - yet another leverage point for further reparations.

    I can't wait to see this explode in their smug faces. The level of vain stupidity (or evil, if it's intentional) involved deserves nothing less.
     
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    Are black people held in CA at gunpoint?
     
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    Which is another fatal flaw in this idea. Just who is Californian? The person who arrived yesterday to cash in on these handouts? If only those who've lived there x number of years qualify, those who've lived there x - one day will demand theirs. They'll claim tenure-discrimination.
     
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    Me too!
     
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    Citizens of California are voting for this, so they deserve it.
     
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    Well I imagine it will be a fun show. I'm looking forward to it!
     
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    I really hope it's rushed through. I'm looking for a new surrealist TV series.
     
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    The paper trail will reveal all. It's many, already on your desk from Nas of illmatic fame to Moriah right here in your forum.
     
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    Apparently, you never tire of making pointless comments. IOW: yeah, SO? How does that relate to this thread?
     

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