Apple helps the Chinese communists suppress protests

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  1. Condor060

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    Since I never claimed anything remotely close to that, its not in question who's out of touch
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Elon is in bed with China just as much as Apple based on the OP's criteria.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    You pretended to misunderstand based on some unrelated climate issue, rather then look at the real reason Elon kowtowes to China.

    The want for Tesla convenience, is granted to china without the mandatory starlink connections the rest of us suffer/endures.
     
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    That is one reason that he is frustrating to converse with. He will just stick to his mistaken idea, even after you've corrected him, and get an attitude about it, as well.
     
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    Really, then show me any post I made that had any relevance to this
    Talk about post out of left field Jesus

    Cool Story, Now prove it.
     
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    All that's obvious, is that you're ignoring what Vernan has been saying. I can't say I haven't seen that move, from you, myself.

    Perhaps you are one of Elon's fans. I am neither all for nor against, the man: some things, like making Starlink available for Ukrainians, I applaud, other things, not so much. He's only human, so has his flaws, and makes mistakes, as well, regardless of how successful he's been. So I look at each venture, on a case by case basis, not with any predisposition, whether to endorse or condemn.


    Just because this thread is about China, and @Vernan89188 didn't post any snips from his link, on page 1, I got this:

    <Snip>
    In an interview with the Financial Times last week, Elon Musk revealed that figures in the Chinese government have asked him directly to withhold Starlink access within China. Musk told FT that, in the publication’s summary,
    “Beijing has made clear its disapproval of his recent rollout of Starlink...in Ukraine” and “sought assurances he would not sell Starlink in China.”

    It’s unclear from the description whether Musk agreed to Beijing’s request, but Starlink’s service map shows no plans to deploy in China. Adjacent countries like Taiwan, Mongolia and Vietnam are listed as “pending regulatory approval.”
    <End>

    While I, as others here, would like to see more backbone, by corporations, towards China, I realize that it is not as easy, or as practical as just saying this, so, once again, I would want to judge each corporation, based on its own situation. But most do seem to be China bootlickers, because of the size of their market. I was happy just to see some companies have the integrity, during the last year, to pull out of Russia.


    P.S.-- So, since you seem to be such a proponent of the Amazing Elon, what is your prediction for the amount of time it takes, for him to make Twitter profitable?
     
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    So by your own admission, Musk hasn't commented on it yet. So that would make post like this just fake propaganda.
    Or maybe uneducated post like this being more fake propaganda
    Now on to your other question

    Well first off, I never made any claim about being a proponent of Musk. But thats a normal response when someone can't back up what they claim so I get it. Just because you call them out for fake propaganda post magically makes you a supporter.

    Second, I have no idea it Musk is profitable with Twitter or not. As far as I am concerned it can crash and burn and it wouldn't change my life ten cents worth.
    But since Twitter has only made a profit twice in 10 years with 2020 losing over a billion dollars, I don't see how he could do much worse.
     
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    The OP tells us nothing specifically about Apple-- it just expects us to read the link, without any appetizer, or aperitif, to whet our interest. I know a lot of posters do that, but I think that one should, at the very least, offer a relevant Snip from the link. Better still, if the OP adds its own opinion, and perhaps hits a few points, or sketches the general outline, of the story.

    The OP, however, reads only as Right wing propaganda, so I was not motivated to do more research into whatever it is using, for its basis.
     
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    Is it really that damaging to the protest that you have to reset this air drop thing every 10 minutes? When I read the headline I thought Apple gave to authorities personal data of those involved in the protests. But reducing the working timeof the air drop seems to be a very small concession.
     
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    Well that's clearly an absurd point then. If that's your point, it's simply wrong.
     
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    Then we should see starlink broadcasting freedom over chinas authoritarian lands any day now.
     
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    The only ones in bed with China is Biden and Hunter but you don't seem to have any problems with that.
    Funny how that works
     
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    You misspelled Taiwan. And yea despite the rights objections.
     
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    Because Musk should pay for that out of his pocket?
     
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    Apple would probably just make it so their phones couldn't connect.
     
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    So now its Taiwan and China
    Good to know
     
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    Great, are you promoting it or just looking for money to institute it?
     
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    It doesn't. Every time they get caught with made up fairy tales they leap from one hysterical post to the next
     
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    Yea right. Ignore his kowtowing. Rules for thee but not for me huh. Elon profiting off adhering to Chinese rules is good because he purchased Twitter huh. Apple is no better then Elon.
     
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    Again, another hysterical post about things that have never happened. lol
     
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    Well I've noticed that this thread is about Apple, and you've concentrated almost exclusively with a billionaire and company that has nothing to do with the topic. I realize that Musk is the left's current Emmanuel Goldstein, but that really has nothing to do with this issue.
     
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    The point was made with my first post here, some require hand holding to see it. Even then they choose to remain blind.
     
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    Oh I get the point, it's called distraction from the topic because it's uncomfortable. I was simply giving you the benefit of the doubt just in case you had a real argument, which apparently you don't.
     

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