US Capitol attack Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes found guilty of seditious conspiracy

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Except the Dems did not do that. There are legitimate avenues to challenge the results of the election, some of them include a recount, questioning ballots, etc. But once the judge rules on the petition against them, it is pretty much over even though they did not go through the appeals process because it would have been a waste of time. And no Democrat was trying to use fake electors that Trump did with Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Even in the 2016, only a few Dems challenged the results and they were denied by the VP then, care to guess who that was? So, none of the certified results changed in 2016 just as none were changed in 2020.

    The rights they have are in various admendments under the US constititoun as well as the ordinary and necessary clause of the electoral federal laws in place.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Yes the Dems invoked the EVA challenging electors PERIOD.

    And the EVA is one of them.

    And if their challenges had prevailed guess what? "Fake electors" would have voted.

    I know who it was and only a few Reps were going to do Trumps challenges.

    Yes all three times it was invoked or planned to be invoked it was a stupid idea.

    The ordinary and necessary clause does not supersede the separation of federal and state powers and state plenary power over their elections, especially the explicit and sole power granted to the state legislatures when it comes to President and Vice-President.
     
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    This was about the great conspiracy and not only had they no evidence to produce about Trump they specifically file with the court that Trump was not a part of it and therefore could not be used as a defense by the defendants. If Trump was culpable for the actions at the Capital that would have been brought out in the conspiracy trials of those who engaged in it.

    Without that what is the federal crime he could have committed?
     
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    The Constitution does not list what rights you don't have it protects certain rights and explicitly states those rights. In which article or amendment does it say you have a right to vote for the President and Vice-President?
    It explicitly gives that decision as to how the presidential electors are chosen to a specific group which decides how that will be done and it doesn't have to be a vote of the citizens. Do you know which body that is?
     
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  5. fullmetaljack

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    So you can't show me where the US Constitution says I DON'T have the right to vote for President and Vice-President ? But it DOES protect my right to vote.

    I have the right to vote for President and Vice-President because I can't be denied that right.
    Too bad. You are WRONG.

    Just to drive the stake home:

    Article II

    Section 1
    Qualifications of Voters
    Every citizen shall be entitled to vote at every election for all officers elected by the people and upon all questions submitted to the vote of the people provided that such citizen is eighteen years of age or over and shall have been a resident of this state, and of the county, city, or village for thirty days next preceding an election.

    Section 9:
    Presidential Elections; Special Voting Procedures Authorized
    Notwithstanding the residence requirements imposed by section one of this article, the legislature may, by general law, provide special procedures whereby every person who shall have moved from another state to this state or from one county, city or village within this state to another county, city or village within this state and who shall have been an inhabitant of this state in any event for ninety days next preceding an election at which electors are to be chosen for the office of president and vice president of the United States shall be entitled to vote in this state solely for such electors, provided such person is otherwise qualified to vote in this state and is not able to qualify to vote for such electors in any other state. The legislature may also, by general law, prescribe special procedures whereby every person who is registered and would be qualified to vote in this state but for his or her removal from this state to another state within one year next preceding such election shall be entitled to vote in this state solely for such electors, provided such person is not able to qualify to vote for such electors in any other state.


    Again, you are WRONG. Here is constitutional law stating explicitly that I have the right to vote, and yes, for the electors for President and Vice-President.
    :flagus:
    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Go learn the difference between a State and the Federal government.

    Cite where the US Constitution states you have a right to vote for President and Vice-President.
     
  7. fullmetaljack

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    LMAO

    Please, continue. Your persistence is hugely entertaining.

    You didn't show me where the US Constitution denies me the right to vote for President and Vice-President.
    I showed you many amendments in US Constitution that protect my right to vote, even in federal elections.
    I showed you Articles in my State Constitution that explicitly grant me the right to vote in the General election.
    Must I now explain to you how the US Constitution not just enables states to write voting laws but makes it a responsibility ?
    And how Congress can enforce voting laws ?

    Why don't you go try and prevent someone in your locality from voting in the next general election and try out that defense in court ?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Does it? Nope to whom does it grant the right to decide how the Presidential electors are choosen in your state? Does it say you get to vote on them, that you have this right?

    You are demanding I prove a negative itnis your claim you have this constitutional right. Where is it in the Constitution? The US one.
     
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    Atta boy, keep squirming. Try and move some goalposts while you’re at it. Try and deflect , too.

    So I still don’t have a Constitutional right to vote in the General Election ?

    LMAO
     

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