Fact Check: Hurricanes Are Not Strengthened by Our CO2 Emissions

Why do you continue? All you do is complain that people make up stull which you don't agree with,

119 as of Saturday. Inform yourself, as opposed to embarrassing yourself.

Better building codes save lot of lives, which is good.

You just said there were 35 deaths, so you only exposed your own ignorance.

Maria killed 3060 Americans, more or less the same as 9-11. Katrina killed about 1800.

 

I got the 35 deaths from the MIAMI HERALD (September 30) while you made yet another unsourced claim:

Just more evidence that you don't read the links me and Jack post.

Wikipedia LINK

Now here is the list of the
Deadliest storms in Florida

Name Year Number of deaths
"Okeechobee" 1928 2,500+
Unnamed 1781 2,000
Unnamed 1622 1,090
Unnamed c. 1553 700
Unnamed 1553 <700
Unnamed 1559 500
Unnamed 1559 ~500
Unnamed 1683 496
"Labor Day" 1935 409
"Miami" 1926 372
Unnamed 1563 284
"Florida Keys" 1906 240
Ian 2022 126

By the way it is now 126 deaths.... thus you are ignorant ... LOL maybe if you stop stooping low on people....

 

So, if people don't spoon-feeds you links then you won't believe it. Wow

Looking up information is quite easy these days. As I said as of Saturday it was 119, and now they might have discovered few more. So that's quite a bit more than what you were trying sell. And 3060 Americans died only few years ago with Maria, but then again, - why is the death tool so important to you? Better building codes CAN reduce deaths, but if Maria hit Miami-Ft Lauderdale, we'd be talking a lot of deaths. With Ian, they expect insurance premiums to raise by 40%.

As Ian's death toll rises, questions swirl on why more Floridians didn't evacuate
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/08/1127501943/hurricane-ian-florida-delayed-evacuations-lee-county
In Florida, at least 119 people died in Hurricane Ian. Most of those deaths came from drowning in a storm surge as high as 18 feet in some areas.

The largest number of fatalities was in Lee County, home to three islands that saw the greatest impact from the storm. But it was also a county that delayed ordering residents to evacuate for more than a day, despite warnings from meteorologists that it would see "life-threatening" flooding.

 

Watts Up With That?

Hurricane Hype, Lies, Censorship – and Reality

LINK

 

LOL Jack and myself posted a LOT of information through articles about Tropical Storms and Hurricanes in the thread which you continually ignore, your hypocrisy is now off the charts.

Gee you just relied on a link yourself don't have mirrors in your home to look into?

HAW HAW HAW....., you are so pathetic.

Off to the ignore list you go as you are a profoundly dishonest person.

 

You made a mistake, so why not just own it as opposed to trying to make it about me.

 

There's no evidence for that.

 

Cliff Mass Weather blog

The 60th Anniversary of the Northwest's Biggest Storm of the Last Century: The Columbus Day Storm

October 9, 2022

Excerpt:

This Wednesday, October 12, marks the 60th anniversary of the extraordinary Columbus Day Storm, the most intense, damaging storm to hit the Pacific Northwest during the last century.

This blog will tell its story, describe the extreme winds and damage, tell you about the quality of the forecasts, and even examine whether global warming will change the frequency of such storms.

LINK

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The storm started as Typhoon Frieda at the far West end of the Pacific Ocean.

 

Typhoon Frequency Has Fallen Since 1950, Contradicting Alarmist Global Warming Claims
By P Gosselin on 18. October 2022

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Charts by Kirye, using data from the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA)

Extreme weather events, like tropical storms, are supposed to be intensifying and becoming more frequent as the world warms, the global warming alarmists like to claim as they try to spread panic and anxiety. This, they say, is robustly supported by science and so humanity is facing dire consequences unless it stops burning fossil fuels immediately.

Today let’s use the scientific data on Pacific typhoons to see if the alarmist claims are true. These data are provided by the renowned Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA). Surely typhoons must be increasing in frequency year by year since the temperature has risen over the 20th century.

First we look at the number of typhoons occurring in September, since 1951:



Data source: JMA

Lo and behold, the trend in terms of typhoon frequency in September has been upward and so the alarmists must be correct. The science is settled!

But not so fast. Firstly, if we ignore the 1950s, the above trend would be pretty much flat, if not slightly declining. Secondly, examining only one month doesn’t really tell much at all.

Trending downward

So next we look at the data that accounts for the entire January-September period for each year since 1951:



Data source: JMA

Accounting for the entire 9-month period each year, we see that the number of typhoons occurring has been trending downward for the past 7+ decades. The warming the planet has seen over this particular period has not led to more Pacific typhoon activity. To the contrary, warming seems to be putting the brakes on storm brewing in the Pacific.

That’s good news, but you’ll never hear it from the alarmist climate hoaxers. They only want you to believe their fantasies and to not look at the real, hard data.

The typhoon trend is just more “Inconvenient Truth” that the climate scamming alarmists don’t want the public to know.

 

Plently of newer science around. If you were familiar with the science, you'd be ... familiar with the science. Here, I'll give you some more to run from.

Kossin et al 2020
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1920849117
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To address this, a homogenized data record based on satellite data was previously created for the period 1982–2009. The 28-y homogenized record exhibited increasing global TC intensity trends, but they were not statistically significant at the 95% confidence level. Based on observed trends in the thermodynamic mean state of the tropical environment during this period, however, it was argued that the 28-y period was likely close to, but shorter than, the time required for a statistically significant positive global TC intensity trend to appear. Here the homogenized global TC intensity record is extended to the 39-y period 1979–2017, and statistically significant (at the 95% confidence level) increases are identified. Increases and trends are found in the exceedance probability and proportion of major (Saffir−Simpson categories 3 to 5) TC intensities,
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Since they agreed with everything I said, why would I say such a thing?

It's fascinating. I say I agree with you that numbers of hurricanes aren't increasing ... which causes you to scream that I'm ignoring that topic, and then post more on the same topic that everyone agrees with, and then scream that everyone not talking about what everyone agrees with proves that they're lying.

Do you even _read_ what other people post, or do you just want excuses to howl?

 

ACE is not a good metric to use.

It only looks at wind speed, and doesn't take the size of the storm into account. Hurricane Sandy was a 800-mile-wide monster, yet it had the same small ACU that a 200-mile storm of the same wind speed.

Also, it doesn't show the difference between multiple small storms or fewer big ones.

 

Why do you persist with the BigLie that more hurricanes were predicted?

 

That post is even more uninformed than your usual.

Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) is a measure used by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to express the activity of individual tropical cyclones and entire tropical cyclone seasons, particularly the Atlantic hurricane seasons. It uses an approximation of the energy used by a tropical system over its lifetime and is calculated every six-hour period. The ACE of a season is the sum of the ACEs for each storm and takes into account the number, strength, and duration of all the tropical storms in the season.


Accumulated Cyclone Energy - Earthdata - NASA
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov › ... › Tropical Cyclones

Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) is a measure used by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to express the activity of individual ...

 

The 2022 hurricane season is the seventh consecutive above-average hurricane season. NOAA says there is a 65% chance of an above-normal season, a 25% chance of a near-normal season and a 10% chance of a below-normal season.Aug 12, 2022

Experts Predict “Above Average” 2022 Hurricane Season

 

And now that you've got your deflection out of the way, let's get back to what you ignored.

ACE does _not_ take storm size into account. That isn't debatable.

That means it kind of sucks as a metric.

That is, unless you think that the 800-mile wide Hurricane Sandy should get the same rating as a 200-mile small hurricane, even though it's got rougly 16 times the energy.

Do you, in fact think that?

 

None of which matters in the slightest. The deflection is yours. Whether you like it or not, ACE is the measure of cyclone activity.

 

It’s not the only measure, it’s the most common. It doesn’t take size into consideration.

 

A shame. It wouldn't have killed you to have just admitted that ACE isn't a good metric, being that it doesn't take size into account. Instead, you doubled down on your minor mistake and destroyed your credibility.

 

That's OK. I'm with NASA and NOAA.
"Accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) is a measure used by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) to express the activity of individual tropical cyclones and entire tropical cyclone seasons, particularly the Atlantic hurricane seasons. It uses an approximation of the energy used by a tropical system over its lifetime and is calculated every six-hour period. The ACE of a season is the sum of the ACEs for each storm and takes into account the number, strength, and duration of all the tropical storms in the season."


Accumulated Cyclone Energy - Earthdata - NASA

 

For climate analysis (as opposed to weather forecasting) that doesn't matter much.

 

Pacific Typhoons Continue Downward Trend, Contradicting Alarmist Claims Of More Storms
By P Gosselin on 23. November 2022

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Pacific typhoons continue downward trend for more than 70 years. Alarmists baffled, embarrassed

The Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) presents the latest data for Pacific typhoons. Their data go back more than 70 years, to 1951.

First we look at the latest data from the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) for the number of typhoons formed in the Pacific in the month of October, now that the October, 2022, data have become available:



Source of data: JMA

Though the world has warmed (mostly naturally) since 1951, the overall long-term trend in typhoons remains downward, thus contradicting the dire claims made by climate bedwetters that a warmer climate leads to more storms.

Note how the 1990s and 2000s saw significantly fewer Pacific typhoons in October than in the 1950s, 60s,70s and 80s when CO2 levels were lower.

Annual trend

But one single month really doesn’t tell us a whole lot about overall Pacific typhoon trends, so now we look at the number of typhoons formed in the Pacific for the period from January to October, 1951-2022, now that the latest October data have been made available:



Source of data: JMA

Here as well we see a downward trend for the period. The alarmists have been shown to be wrong and the media have been misleading and lazy for not calling them, out. Pacific typhoons are not becoming more frequent. If anything, the warming has led to less typhoons, which is good news which the alarmists unfortunately are unable to swallow.

 

Wonder at the silence from Warmist/alarmists who can't find any joy in their being chronically wrong about future climate doomsday prophecies maybe they are deep into current withdrawal condition?

 

Another bust for the hurricane alarmist crowd.

Despite Prediction 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season Fizzles Out Below “Normal”
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Despite Prediction 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season Fizzles Out Below “Normal”. . . .

 

Another alarmist claim debunked, again.

Wrong, The Conversation, Evidence Shows People Are NOT Under Greater Threat From Hurricanes
CLIMATE RECORD DECEMBER 2, 2022

 

Where have all the hurricanes gone?

World’s Northern Hemisphere Tropical Storm Accumulated Cyclone Energy Plunges 33% in 2022
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This readily available tropical storm data has been consistently ignored, hidden, concealed, misrepresented and otherwise falsely manipulated by climate alarmist politicians and media. . . .