Nearly 50% of participants in 'Monkeypox in women' study were biological men

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  1. Steve N

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    Here's the story in a nutshell: A study was done on how the monkey pox affects women, but among the women who were analyzed almost half of them were biological men.

    Science should not be influenced by feelings or wokeness. The pox isn't woke and doesn't care about someone's thoughts and feelings, if it affects people based on biology then adding bio men into a study on women makes the research inaccurate. It's entirely possible this study could someday impact the way real women with the pox are treated.

    This is something all of us should agree on, the physical science of something should not take into account things that aren't physical just because of wokeness. Do you folks agree?


     
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    It's Science (PBUH)!

    You must believe the Science without question!
     
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    Nearly 50% of participants in 'Monkeypox in women' study were biological men

    Why?

     
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    it is still science. the researcher was blessed with a great opportunity,
     
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    Because it was a study about the effects of the disease on women non binary individuals AND transgender women who had sex with men, not just women.

    We describe the epidemiological and clinical characteristics of monkeypox virus infection in cisgender (cis) and transgender (trans) women and non-binary individuals assigned female sex at birth to improve identification and understanding of risk factors.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02187-0/fulltext

    Steve must have missed that when he read the study, or Postmilinal.com may have misled him.
     
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    I'm thinking that in order to be blessed with opportunity (funding), the scientists must be woke. And those scientists who protested the study's value ....might have a harder time with their own funding.
     
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    It isn't quite that simple though is it. The authors recognised that most of the focus of the 2022 outbreak was on cis men who have sex with men (understandably, given they made up the majority of cases) and they reasonably decided to do some research on other cases to see if there were any differences or similarities which might help better manage future outbreaks.

    They sought data on other people who had been diagnosed with monkeypox during the outbreak so the balance of cis, trans and non-binary cases wasn't in their control. They differentiated the cis and trans groups in their results though, which makes perfect sense, since any differences between the two could be relevant in determining where biology, behaviour or environment could be factors in different aspects of the outbreak.

    Like it or not, transgender individuals exist and so it is perfect reasonable to consider them in such studies. Why they exist and your opinion of them isn't relevant (at least not directly).

    After all, if medical studies aren't going to take account of "feelings" or "identity", that would exclude factors like religion, nationality, political preference and the like, none of which are directly relevant to biological questions but can obviously have indirect influences, and hence can be relevant in different studies and research. Also, given that transgender identity can also involve hormonal and surgical changes, it could be an even more relevant factor than others.
     
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    It's a study that labels trans women as "women"...including biological males as women. Categorized as "Women and nonbinary" . The sample size exceedingly already small and diluted with half being men.

    What is the point ? The point is a study about affects on women. ALL women in a woke world.

    A quality study would have had a quality undiluted sample size of actual women. With a separate study on trans. But THAT is not inclusive.
     
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    How does one compare the two if one is left out of the study.
     
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    There is a need to find out the variance between different population groups and like it or not the trans community is a different population group. There have been numerous study that has shown the variance between biological male and female, this study was not intended for that purpose and shows that trans women are at much higher risk.
     
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    i'm sure that your FEELINGS about science are heartfelt. but you know what conservatives say about FEELINGS.

    scientists, and their corporate and foundational funders are interested in preventing and curing disease. prove i'm wrong.
     
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    The actual study didn't do that though, it's just how it's being spun in the article for entirely political purposes. The study specifically distinguished between the biological females and the trans women, highlighting the differences between the two groups.

    No, the point was to study the effects on people who hadn't already been studied (i.e. cis men, because they made up the majority of cases).
     
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    Figures.

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    Make Science Great Again!
     
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    What a joke. People who think men can actually become women are not scientists to begin with. They’re pawns that move at the will of the woke. F these so called scientists
     
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    It's not a study designed to compare the two. It's a study about women...all types of women. And if you compare biological males against women you do that with two studies..one with bio males who live as women and one with women. Each with appropriate samples sizes and each with its own findings.
     
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    It's a study about women. Note the interpretation of the study results:
    Interpretation
    The clinical features of monkeypox in women and non-binary individuals were similar to those described in men, including the presence of anal and genital lesions with prominent mucosal involvement.
     
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    Would you like to really explore what the "trans community" does? Men freezing fake blood in the shape of a cylinder and inserting it into their rectum once a month to simulate the effect of menstruation and cramps. People hacking off perfectly function organs. The trans community is mentally ill. The left is normalizing and promoting mental illness. Healthy civilizations to not do this, they give the mentally ill the psychological help they need.
     
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    Before I even comment I am going to ask for a source on your frozen blood.
     
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    "Trans women" doing it and posting it on Tik-Tok/Twitter along with instructions on how to make the frozen suppositories. You know... totally normal stuff for the trans community. It is kind of tame compared to mutilating their bodies.... very tame. Are you going to assert that you are ok with hacking a man's penis off but a frozen tomato suppository is a bridge too far?




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    The part I find hilarious is how and why do you search for this stuff on social media?
     
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    You said frozen blood, not tomato juice, and you Re basing this off of a YouTube video and a TikTok video and implying like this is some type of normal behavior for trans people.

    I can now see why your opinions here are so… interesting. That isn’t normal and will likely cause major infections for the people that do it.

    It must be unbearable to believe everything you saw on YouTube as indicative of a larger trend.

    As to people altering their genitalia to help alleviate psychological stressors that frequently cause major depression and suicide, I believe that is a discussion best left up to their medical treatment team, mental health professionals and the individual using informed processes to make the best decision for that person.

    But hey, you watched a YouTube video, surely that counts for something. And for the record, gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and surgery is sometimes the treatment.
     
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    The biological father loses parental rights and the adoptive mother (no biological relation) is now free and clear to castrate the man's son. This is clearly an instance of scorned woman looking for revenge on an ex-husband by neutering his children. This is how you make normal people hate the trans movement. Sticking frozen tomato juice up you anus is nothing compared to transing an innocent little boy.

    Monsters all the way down....

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    I find it hilarious that the "believe the science" people can't even accept basic biology.
     
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    Yeah YouTube videos are totally fringe. Just because it's on YouTube posted from a channel with 150k subscribers and 1.4 million views is just more evidence.
     
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    More deflection
    Since you have waived the flag on your frozen blood story we will move on to the Younger Case (you really should find some different less extreme sources)

    https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/14/jeff-younger-transgender-care-house/

    Medical castration for children is not allowed in either Texas or California. The father is upset about the social transition of the child, he has said the mother is lying and that the child wants to be a boy but numerous therapists have said the father is incorrect.

    For the child to even start hormone therapy (which is reversible) they would have to have the fathers consent but even that is not currently being considered according to the courts, the child’s therapists and the mother.

    Anything else?
     
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