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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You can't give examples of those pushing for illegal immigration and you want me to play your make believe.
    That's funny,
     
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    Now that is the kind of claim, I'm sorry to tell you, which requires actual evidence. That you saw some border guards on FOX NEWS, saying this, is not proof-- we've also had some doctors, make ridiculous claims about Covid and vaccines, with which the vast, vast majority of their profession, would completely disagree. IOW, a handful of guards, equates to nothing but hearsay.

    It seems very strange, at least to me, that our borders could be "wide open," and yet there would be no evidence of this, other than the reports of a few border guards. This reminds me of the postal worker who, after the last election, went on some Right wing radio show, with claims of his Postmaster's illicit acts, and orders from his supervisor to the carriers, to break the law. But, when real investigators showed up, to look into his allegations, he balked at saying the same thing under oath, and ultimately admitted it had all been a story. Likewise, I think this story you're hearing on FOX, says more about the mentality of those border agents, than it does about objective fact.

    Speaking of which, what is your basis for refuting all the eyewitness reports of full detention centers, and of immigrants being flown to distant parts of our border, before being walked over to the Mexican side? Those reports, I should take to be a lies, because reporters all liars-- unless they work for one of the outlets that you watch? Have even any of those, refuted that this administration is apprehending huge numbers, putting them in detention centers, and then shipping them to Mexico? Nevertheless, I should disbelieve what all the reporters say that they actually witness, yet utterly trust what just a few border guards say, because it is utterly beyond possibility, that they are either disgruntled workers, or that they are just rabidly anti-immigrant?

    Even if reporters are all in on your conspiracy, below is quoted the deputy director of the ACLU's Immigrant Rights Project. It wouldn't really make sense that the ACLU would be complaining about the treatment of immigrants, if there was really nothing to complain about (even if it was in on the conspiracy). Or did this reporter simply make this up, and there is no Lee Gelernt, at all? Maybe there is not really an ACLU, either.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1271211

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    The practice has been criticized by immigration advocates who say it makes some immigrants believe they will be able to stay in the U.S., only to find themselves expelled into an area of Mexico where they have no connections or resources to help them.

    “We should not be summarily expelling asylum seekers without any hearing but certainly should not also be increasing the cruelty and trauma by placing them on these internal flights without any understanding of what’s happening to them,” said Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s Immigrants’ Rights Project.

    Gelernt said migrants are often led to think or come to believe they will be flown to a location in the U.S. where they will be allowed to stay. There have been reports of migrants being walked across the border back into Mexico after a lateral flight, only to find they are in a place they do not know and cannot reenter the U.S.
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    Here is a little bit more, on those lateral flights:

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    WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is restarting what are known as “lateral flights,” in which migrants crossing into the U.S. from Mexico in one area are transported to another part of the border and often sent back into Mexico from there, according to two immigrant advocacy groups familiar with the government’s decision.

    Immigrants could be flown from the busy Rio Grande Valley or Del Rio, Texas, sectors into El Paso, for example, and then sent back across the border from there. Del Rio is 372 miles by air from El Paso.
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    Plenty more articles, from plenty of other sources, if you're interested.
     
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    Read Overton Windows. And you will understand that this is only the beginning.
    If you don't like to read scientific papers, then I will give you a brief introduction to the concept of Overton Window.
    Any wish can be introduced into society (stupid society) by going through different categories
    First, "Unthinkable" - then it's "Radically" - then it transforms into "Acceptable" - then "Reasonably" - then "Standard" - and finally "The current norm".
    In the US and the EU, all tolerant insanity is at the "Acceptable" stage. And just a little more and it will become "The current norm."
     
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    Considering the mores and customs of people accepted at that time, I do not believe what Wikipedia writes about. Who can confirm this tolerant nonsense about black Vikings? Only statements of modern tolerant pseudo scientists. There is no real evidence for this.
    At that time, anyone outwardly different from the people of a certain region was considered a deadly threat - and almost 100% were killed.
    And certainly a resident of Novgorod could not be black.
     
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    He actually dated a black woman for a year or so. Of course, you won't hear the Woke Fake News say that.
     
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    ... And if they were 6 years old, Sleepy Joe would sniff them all over like a slobbering, old Bloodhound.
     
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    trump has groomed more little girls than any other president since the slave days and you guys want to blame school teachers?
     
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    Interesting question.

    It's only a Beauty Contest and who doesn't like to look at attractive, young women?
     
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    Excellent point.

    Why not just watch "Bay Watch" re runs instead?
     
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    No thanks, partisan articles don't matter to me. I'll stick with the actual evidence.
     
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    No surprise you have no argument against my opinion.
     
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    Like every conspiracy I have heard about over the last 30 years, they all pass with little fan fair. These issues will pass and people will move on. Let those conspiracy wacko's jerk off to their own theories and when this passes, we move on to the next conspiracy.
     
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    You are free to drop me some other evidence that suggests I and those other scientists are wrong, because otherwise that "tolerant nonsense" claim doesn't hold much weight.
     
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    This is not a conspiracy or a political act. This is a scientific psychological theory. The theory was developed in the mid-1990s by Joseph Overton, vice president of the Michigan Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
    And this theory really works. From the point of view of the manipulation of society, this theory is magnificent.
    If we talk about the effect of this rheory in a real society, then the United States is a vivid example of a successful application.
    For example, most recently homosexuals in the United States were subjected to repression.
    For example, in 1952, the US Congress passed a law prohibiting the entry of lesbians and gay foreigners into the country. The law remained in effect until it was repealed in 1990. And look at the modern United States - today in the United States in the political and media field, the LGBT cult literally reigns.
    And all this thanks to the manipulation of public consciousness.
     
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    All Russians are genetically white people. Veliky Novgorod is the first capital of Rus'.
    There has never been slavery in Russia. The Russians did not raid Africa and they could not have captured blacks.
    It could not be physically in Novgorod, even in the theory, of a Negro inhabitant.
    But if you claim that there could be a Negro in Veliky Novgorod, then in this case, you already show evidence.
     
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    Ummm, I'm not sure dating one black woman several years back gets him off the hook for anything.
     
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    Not necessarily, the Bashkirs, Nenets and Chuvash peoples for example for indigenous and have some non-white facial features in them.

    Not true at all, at least for Africans anyway.
    https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Kholopy

    See above.
     
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    When cops pray like that in that public view, it generally means that one of their own has fallen in the line of duty or that one of the first responders has fallen in the line of duty. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    No, it's not surprising. There's no point to counter a made up opinion.
    Now if you have some basis for your opinion, that's another matter. But you seem to never have a basis for your opinion. So, it's pointless to debate anything that is just made up.
     
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    Oh for pity sake bp says ove two million border entries since But Biden became president an all time record that doesn't include got aways, representing almost every third world country on the planet and approaching a hundred people on the terror watch list and you are damn fool enough to believe the border isn't wide open???
     
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    Funny picture. Too bad you can only rebuttal the TRUE leftist agenda to sexualize children with silly cartoon pictures. ITS HAPPENING and this type of response shows the desperation of THE LEFT to cover this up

    SICK!
     
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    All opinions are made up based on influences surrounding the person opining. Virtually everything posted on this forum, including both of us, is opinion. I have a basis for every opinion I state. You know that. Stop making things up.
     
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    But you refuse to state where your opinion originates from. It is assumed you won't give background because you're making it up.
    IE, you said "Then explain the desire to welcome illegal aliens"

    What does that even mean? And dems consist of about 100M people. You think 100M people are exactly the same?
     
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    So, after all the race baiting it was won by a white miss America from Texas.
    Woke my arse.
     
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