Republicans end Capitol Hill smoking ban

LOL. Nice to see they have their priorities straight and that they serve the people, and not just themselves.

Republicans end Capitol Hill smoking ban
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-end-capitol-hill-smoking-ban
Republicans have rolled back a ban against smoking tobacco on Capitol Hill.

Lawmakers and staff will once again be allowed to smoke carefree after Republicans ended the prohibition against tobacco upon taking the majority of the House of Representatives.


Smoke-Filled Rooms Back In Capitol Under House Republicans
https://www.yahoo.com/news/smoke-filled-rooms-back-capitol-020659117.html
In a flashback to decades past, some congressional offices are filling up again with pungent cigar smoke from apparently lung-cancer-blasé Republicans, evoking renewed images of smoky rooms filled with cigar-chomping deal makers.

Reuters reporter Patricia Zengerle believes the smoke is prevalent now because there are more Republicans who are smoking — and perhaps smoking more — since the party won the House majority.

“So there’s indoor smoking on the House side of the Capitol now that the Republicans have taken control,” Zengerle reported earlier this week.


SNOPES: Republicans overturned a ban on smoking in the U.S. House of Representatives in January 2023.

Verdict: True
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/house-smoking-ban/
At the start of the 118th Congress in January 2023, the Republican-controlled House reversed this ban, allowing smoking in public portions of the capitol excluding the House floor.

Reports of increased tobacco smoke at the start of the 118th Congress appear to stem, at least in part, from the fact that Rep. Tom Cole — an avid cigar smoker — had moved into an office near the house press gallery. For example, Reuters reporter Patricia Zengerle tweeted that "there's indoor smoking on the House side of the Capitol now that the Republicans have taken control."

 

Sounds like a microaggression to me. What better way to keep health-conscious liberals off of committees?

 

Yes, its another "stick it to the libs" bill, with ZERO benefits to anyone outside of the Congress building.

However, gridlock IS good, because it keeps politicians focused on these kinds of things, while the nation itself is on cruise-control. We need more of this, not less.

 

It does beat having (R)adical control over Congress and/or the White House.

 

Sounds good. I don't know if you have any laws Federally on this but if so they should repeal them to allow all people to smoke with the property owner's permission.

 

The property in question is owned by the Federal government. If they Congress wants to create a law to permit smoking in all Federal buildings, then so be it, but in this case they just changed the rule for the building where these smokers themselves happen to reside. I find their priorities strange, but it is what it is, and in a way its a good thing, because when they focus on this kind of silliness, it keeps them away from meddling with more important things.

 

Expanding essential liberty is what servicing the people is all about.. You just don't recognize what "serving the people" is anymore .. caught up in some fallacious utilitarian collectivist drama .. followed by an anti science propaganda message.

Second Hand smoke is not a significant health risk ... sucked that one down hard didn't ye mate .. good ol EPA "Bad Science" Ruled as such in a court of law back in the day ... Homer and Marg .. living large

Got you coming and going on that false narrative didn't they .. ... Kudo's where Due .. Red did something good for a chance ..

 

Good. A total ban was always intolerant nonsense out of the radical left.

 

Their body their choice.

 

Ending the smoking ban.........would verify the down right STUPIDITY of the R's........which is no surprise. Some example for preventing smoking related diseases.

Unbelievable.(and regressive)......but science and the health of the population is not a big priority for them Self interest and POWER are their main concerns.

 

Can you quote any source on this, other than yourself?

 

And if they are doing it within a sealed bubble, which doesn't commingle with everyone else's air, I say I'm all for it. Otherwise, they should have a well ventilated smokers' lounge, or just step outside. But it is inconsiderate, if others are forced to share that work environment, and breathe your smoke all day. Cigar smoke is probably going to leave its scent in the smoker's office, in fact, long after he has left the House. Would it be appropriate, if some Representatives smoked tons of ganja, at the office?

 

Told you - US-EPA -- ruled "Bad Science" in US court of Law.

PASSIVE SMOKE: The EPA's Betrayal of Science and Policy https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/passive-smoke.pdf

But why do you ask ? -- You don't care about Science or the facts ..

 

That paper does not conclude that second hand smoke is not a significant risk. It states that some of the test subjects were not always non-smokers and this was not taken into account by the EPA

 

It concludes that the US - EPA did not show a significant risk .. engaged in "Bad Science"

This was in addition to riduculously bad statistics -- the study in question 100,000 households .. smoking and non smoking were assessed for childhood related disease. Found 11 in the smoking houses .. 9 in the smoking. they took that two difference and multiplied through the entire US households to come up with the 3000 number.

The problem is that this is not even correlation -- never- mind causation.. the reality is that of 100,000 households .. Zero second hand smoke related issue was found in 99,899 homes .. statistically the same number as the non smoking homes.

Its a big lie .. however one that any thinking person can figure out if they just think about it .. no way a smoker can live as long as they do .. if a regular person was not able to deal with small amounts of these particulates .. all of which can be found from other sources .. and good thing our bodies are designed to get rid of such things.

There is more carbon monoxide in the house from the Furnace than from a room full of Smoker .. yet you can find the literature crying about "OMG .. cigarette smoke contains Carbon Monoxide"

Any chemist such as myself would easily recognize that as perposterous nonsense .. "Bad Science" which any self respecting scientist hates .. degrades the faith in the institutions .. and you should have very little in the US EPA.

 

It stated that the EPA did not put a valid case that second hand smoking is a significant risk. It did not say that second hand smoking is not a risk or is a risk

Sorry, what chemist would conclude that the biggest risk from smoking is carbon monoxide poisoning,! Carbon monoxide is not classed as a direct carcinogen. You are not a chemist

 

Of course it doesn't say second hand smoking is not a risk .. and only a moron would expect it to. What it does say .. is EPA claim that second hand smoke is a significant risk ..

Never said the biggest risk was Carbon Monoxide .. didn't say it was a risk at all .. are you reading comprehension impaired or do you just like building strawmen and name calling cause you have no game

 

Lol. You wrote a whole paragraph dedicated to carbon monoxide!

 

Yes I did .. and you completly misunderstood the point of that paragraph - and so you made up a bunch of nonsense and falsehood .. so what now would you like to say about that paragraph ?

 

We'll know that the Republican Party is willing to stand by its statements when the ban against concealed carry and open carry of firearms in the visitor's gallery is lifted. 'A good guy with a gun . . . ', right?

Meanwhile, have joint commissions been set up on immigration, global warming and crime yet?

Regards, and enjoy the Washington Circus. You and I are paying for it.

 

You have no clue about the science of second hand smoke related diseases .. so are in no position to verify any "down right STUPIDITY" .. and in fact .. listening to the opinion of someone as uninformed as yourself .. would be about the only "Down right STUPIDITY" that I see in the room .. that and a complete disregard for Essential liberty ... in your fallacious utilitarian bliss.

Your mission .. to figure out what fallacious utilitarianism is .. and then why you are guilty .. guilty .. guilty

 

Our overview of systematic reviews of observational epidemiological evidence suggests that passive smoking is significantly associated with an increasing risk of many diseases or health problems, especially diseases in children and cancers

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4595077/

 

People should KNOW that by now. Perhaps they need more education on these health issues.

OTOH........peple sometimes just BELIEVE what they WANT to believe. and no amount of"science" or even commonsense will change them
And if taxing the over burdened health system with problems created by bad /irresponsible choices............so be it......

The problem is that the new generations need healthy examples to follow.........and this gives them the wrong message..............

 

Your the one who needs education on health issues .. has no idea about the science .. and is running around wanting to force your uneducated religious beliefs on others through physical violence .. and now dodging this reality with which you have been confronted.

You are a member of the Church of Fallacious Utilitarianism .. .. in case you were wondering which religion is being referred to.

Who is it that was taxing the "over burdened" health care system .. with bad/irresponsible choices ? .. and good God what a disgusting display of hatred for the founding principle .. Essential liberty sacrificed on the alter of fallacious utilitarianism.

Is it the Fatties you are referring to ? Fat people taxing the health car system .. or the unhealthy in general ? Lets run down the path of Utilitarian Bliss and see where it leads .. exploring the problems of bad/irresponsible choices

This crucifixion will be both fun and educational - I promise

 

But I’m sure a good liberal would let them smoke pot instead.