Do gun aficionados have any ideas to reduce firearm carnage in the U.S.?

Some solutions:
Encourage nuclear families with a committed mom and dad in the home.

Discourage baby daddies

Discourage promiscuity and casual sex.

Promote Christianity and let people know there is hope even during their darkest days.

A society with more of the above will have much less problems...including gun violence...over all.

 

Of course it is true. Everyone knows that professional armed police have never been able to keep the peace in any of our DP ruled crime ridden urban hell holes.
Surely you have noticed.

Beyond that the mass slaughter of unarmed Americans in Gun Free Zones while police waited for the killers to either exhaust themselves or their ammunition have made the Inconvenient Truth all too obvious.

So, 'who ya goons call?' 911?

“This story contains audio of people calling 911 during a mass shooting incident.
The first two 911 calls came in at 11:29 a.m.
A man had crashed his truck into a ditch by Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, and he was rushing toward the school with a gun.
“ He’s inside the school shooting at the kids!” a third caller yelled at 11:33 a.m.

The gunman fired more than 100 rounds by the time police dispatchers received another call two minutes later. An adult voice could be heard making “shh” sounds for nearly 44 seconds before the phone abruptly cut out.

Monica Martinez, a STEM teacher who was hiding in a closet at the school, was among several callers from inside the school who followed.
“There’s somebody banging at my school,” Martinez said, her voice muffled as she continued speaking. “I’m so scared,” she said at 11:36 a.m.”
PROPUBLICA, State trooper body camera footage obtained by ProPublica and The Texas Tribune
Newly Obtained Uvalde 911 Calls Shed More Light on Botched Police Response, By Lomi Kriel, ProPublica and The Texas Tribune, and Zach Despart, Alejandro Serrano and Roxanna Asgarian, The Texas Tribune, Nov. 1, 6:45 p.m. CDT
https://www.propublica.org/article/uvalde-911-calls-highlight-botched-police-response

Just call Ghostbusters -- right?

 

What you believe is true, and as I pointed out in #243 above, they want to pretend they're curing the root cause when they're just treating the symptoms.

We all know that Democrats aren't about to touch the welfare programs that have allowed a large number of men to grow up in broken families, dominated by women, never acquiring any stable relationship to male authority, never acquiring any set of rational expectations about the future, that is largely responsible for the crime, violence, unrest, disorder and furious, unrestrained lashing out at the whole social structure.

And as you can see, those are Daniel Patrick Moynihan's words, not mine. He was probably the last Democrat who was willing to talk about this, and 1965 was a long time before the first generation of men who grew up in those conditions reached maturity.

As you correctly pointed out, they only want to pretend that they're solving this problem when they're not even willing to address it. It's ALL bullshit.

 

when are the freedom loving gun people going to rebel? , they continue to call our PRESENT government authoritarian? well im waiting?

 

when are the gun banners going to confiscate all those guns they claim we have no right to own rather than waiting on government operatives with guns to achieve their wet dream of a disarmed America?

 

They're not going to because they're all talk.

 

agreed

 

Yes I have some fine ideas. Start enforcing existing laws such as the ones that make it illegal to shoot people for no good reason and the ones that make it illegal for certain people to have guns.

Until you start effectively enforcing current laws don't come at us with the suggestion that we need even more laws which will do nothing to stop criminals when current laws don't but they will only infringe on the rights of the law abiding

 

That sounds a lot to me like your advocating violent acts

 

the default position for humans is UNSHOT, you actually do need not only good resons to shoot, exceptional reasons it seems to keep YOU from shooting them

 

Are you under the impression the law enforcement standard is to not arrest people for shooting others?

 

i suggest put up, or shut up and quit talking out your rear

 

Heh. What do we need to rebel for?

We have the Constitution on our side, you don't.

We also have our local law enforcement departments on our side, which means freedom-hating gun grabbers are going to have to come for our firearms themselves.

Molon Labe.

 

i dont hate freedom, i recognize the RW is slower than average, and they have every right to their slowness

 

You obviously do hate freedom.

I suggest put-up or shut up and quit talking out your rear.

Molon Labe.

 

No response? Yes, I have a response and you've quoted it.
You just ignore its contents, so I've posted it again below.

The bolded doesn't even make sense. Who exactly are you talking to?

The case you quote and the evolving standard it mentions moves along one direction only. The evolving standard cites a movement away from such punishments, not toward.
READ the case itself and quote for us the portion you think supports torture being NOT a cruel and unusual punishment.

 

Are there any laws regulating the acquisition, possession, and use of personal firearms to protect society that gun lovers support?

If so, what are they?

 

See Post #243.

Wanna talk?

Are there any reforms that address the underlying causes of the crime, violence, disorder and the furious unrestrained lashing out at the whole structure in our communities that government and welfare lovers support?

 

What reforms do you want as law that you think will help? I think it all comes down to parenting. I don’t believe more laws will help.

 

I support laws prohibiting murder, assault, aggravated rape, wreckless discharge of a firearm, negligent homicide, manslaughter.

Those are the same regulations on firearms that are placed on any other of our enumerated rights.

 

Your rant appears to be ideological.

Obviously, there are efforts to ameliorate the underlying causes of crime, and they are inadequate.

Again, are there any pragmatic measures regulating the acquisition, possession, and use of personal firearms to protect society that you support?

Do you have any theories to account for the gross disparities among states? E.g.,

The five states with the lowest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are:

1. Massachusetts (3.4)
2. New York (3.9)
3. New Jersey (4.1)
4. Hawaii (4.4)
5. Rhode Island (4.6).

Here are the 10 states with the highest rates of gun death:

1. Alaska (23)
2. Alabama (21.4)
3. Louisiana (21.2)
4. Mississippi (19. )
5. Oklahoma (19.6)
6. Montana (19)
7. Missouri (18. )
8. New Mexico (18.2)
9. Arkansas (17.7)

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Do you support any specific measures regulating the acquisition, possession, and use of personal firearms to protect society?

 

The biggest barrier that is preventing these types of things from being implemented is politics. For example, and in line with this thread, gun control is a good political talking point for scoring points, on both sides of the fence. No one in politics is actually looking to solve the actual problems. If they did then they would no longer have those problems to use as talking points to get elected.

 

I just described the regulations on the use of firearms.

Regulating the acquisition and possession of firearms is illegal, per the Constitution.

 

I agree that it all comes down to parenting, and parenting is at the core of the problem, so I would begin with reversing the measures that marginalize fathers and interfere with their ability to determine the disposition of their children (this particularly includes single fathers who have children out of wedlock). The marginalization of fathers was exactly what Moynihan warned his colleagues about back in 1965 when they were enacting their Great Society and War on Poverty programs and what he predicted almost 60 years ago is blowing up in our faces right now. I know that people's intentions were good and I'm not suggesting that we cut down our social safety nets, but when people mess with the natural order of things, and in this case it was the family, things invariably go wrong.

Anyhow, that's one measure and that's where I would begin. I also agree with you that creating new laws won't help. What I'm talking about here is reforming or eliminating the counterproductive laws and regulations that are already on the books. To sum it up in a concise phrase, less government, more parents.