Running Newsticker for the War in Ukraine

I think they actually have something like 40-50 T-14s?
They were supposed to have delivered up to the end of 2020 2,300 of them which were put back to 2025...in 2023 they were supposed to get 40 but that's highly unlikely....as always the Russian political will versus Russian industrial corruption is....well...a problem as ever....

 

just on the topic of destroyed tanks.....



here's something of interest....



....not sure how those loss numbers stack up with 2865 quoted in the article....???


https://topwar.ru/175191-naskolko-s...kov-v-stroevyh-chastjah-rossijskoj-armii.html

 

...in respect of the Leos...does anyone know if the Germans and the supporting countries will be providing the uranium depleted ammo to the Ukrainians?

 

Ukraine Conflict Updates
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, January 25, 2023

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Key Takeaways

• Russian forces may be engaging in limited spoiling attacks across most of the frontline in Ukraine in order to disperse and distract Ukrainian fronts and launch a decisive offensive operation in Luhansk Oblast.
• The Russian military appears to be shifting its focus toward conventional forces deployed to Luhansk Oblast and away from the non-traditional force structure of the Wagner Group and its focus on Bakhmut.
• The Kremlin and Russian milbloggers attempted to downplay the Western provision of tanks to Ukraine, indicating that they likely find these systems threatening to Russian prospects.
• Russian forces claimed that Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations near Svatove as Russian forces continued limited ground attacks near Kreminna.
• Ukrainian forces have likely made advances around Kreminna.
• Ukrainian officials acknowledged that Ukrainian forces withdrew from Soledar.
• Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka-Donetsk City area. Russian forces reportedly continued localized offensive operations near Vuhledar.
• Russian forces continued to conduct small-scale ground attacks across the Zaporizhia Oblast front line, likely to attempt to fix Ukrainian forces in Zaporizhia Oblast.
• Russian milbloggers are divided over the veracity of Zaporizhia Oblast occupation official Vladimir Rogov’s ongoing, overblown information operation.
• The Kremlin is attempting to downplay new restrictions on crossing the Russian border, likely in an effort to contain panic within Russian society about a likely second mobilization wave.
• Russian President Vladimir Putin may be attempting to conduct another wave of mobilization discreetly out of concern for undermining his support among Russians. . . .

Ukrainian forces have likely made advances around Kreminna as of January 25. Combat footage published on January 23 and geolocated on January 24 shows Ukrainian forces ambushing a Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) convoy east of Dibrova on an unspecified date.[19] The footage indicates that Ukrainian forces have likely made advances west of Dibrova. Other geolocated combat footage posted on January 23 and January 24 indicates that Ukrainian forces have also likely made advances south of Kreminna.[20] Ukrainian forces additionally conducted a HIMARS strike on Kreminna and Rubizhne in Luhansk Oblast on January 25.[21] . . . .

 

Interesting question a lot of us would like to know the answer to. I know that the 30 mm ammunition that the A-10 uses have uranium depleted material for armor piercing purposes. My guess is that other calibers of armor piercing ammunition also may be made with depleted uranium.

 

Leos do not shoot that type of ammo.

 

What part of procured do you not understand.
McDisneyland might be able, if at all, to deliver M1As by the end of year or 1 quarter of 2024.
While the EU partners will start delivering end of March. What's wrong with the US and MBTs, run out of ketchup?

 

..okay....are you sure?? I thought the stanag 120mm APFSDS-TP penetrator was made of depleted uranium? I think all the KE penetrators are made of DU??

Actually....thinking about it....I've just answered my own question.....my bad...sorry....told you I wasn't a tankie

 

They use a extreme dense tungsten alloy, which is one of Rheinmetalls secret. It is as good as the depleted uranium the US is using, but less messy.

 

...didn't know that....thanks!!

 

I did not see any report from our government or any valid news service stating that the M1 tanks destined for Ukraine still need to be procured. Get off your high horse accusing others of not understanding because you likely will find out that it is you who do not understand. Based on your arrogant response you appear to say or at least imply that the tanks for Ukraine red to be acquired by a purchase. Procuring tanks for Ukraine as I understand will be done by obtaining them from storage. Of as I had stated earlier that those tanks will need at minimum inspections but most likely upgrade, R/R - repair and replace, and duct uniform maintenance on that entire batch. Those activities of course take time.
I should not have to tell that the Ukrainians will need to undergo training on operation and maintenance which can and likely will be done concurrently with the procurement process. If you are trying to wow us Into thinking that you are the smartest guy in the room, forget about it. Most people who think that they are the smartest guys in the room get disappointed.

 

It is all over the news, that the US will provide the Ukraine only with the watered down export version and those will have to be built and precured by the US McDisneyland. When they can be built nobody knows, because Poland placed such a large order..
If you are unable to find those facts it is not my problem. The Sauerkrauts will have their 2A6 in Ukraine in March, which is the most modern version the Bundeswehr has now. Not some watered down version, as the US might send to the Ukraine, when ever that will be.
The M1A are nothing but propaganda to help Scholz to make a decision. I even think to trick Scholz into a decision, a flat out lie.
German made MBTs will be in March in the Ukraine, with 14 Challenger from the UK. But you will not see 1 M1A in 2023, or even 2024.

Why is the US not providing its top of the line it has in the inventory, like Germany and so other of its Allies.

Merkel was right

 

This remains false no matter how many times you repeat it. The tanks already exist. The only thing that's "export version" is they don't have the classified US armor "recipe."

Politico
U.S. to send Ukraine more advanced Abrams tanks — but no secret armor

 

I was scanning for recent just found an article from Ukrinform . Not a question of can’t find I did not look. I had see. other articles which said that tanks for Ukraine would come from stocks. The article backed up prior articles that the M1s Ukraine will get will be minus certain high technology features which make sense since we do not want to inadvertently transfer new technology to Russia for them to reverse engineer.

From Ukrinform. “ security assistance package to Ukraine recently announced by the U.S. President, which includes 31 Abrams M1 tanks, provides for the purchase of new vehicles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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And from STARS AND STRIPES—
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-01-26/abrams-tanks-ukraine-russia-pentagon-8900716.html. Dated Jan 26, 2023

 

I had noted that the US announced it “decided” to provide M1 tanks to Ukraine as a “feel good” announcement to give the Germans covers.

 

I saw a recent article that Russian crews were not pleased with the T-14 and considered it of poor quality.

 

There are articles that say the tanks will have to be built and others that say as you say that they will come from stock. UKRINFORM ON JAN26,23 said new.
So there are diverse opinions out there.

This is from STARS AND STRIPES
And from STARS AND STRIPES—
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-01-26/abrams-tanks-ukraine-russia-pentagon-8900716.html. Dated Jan 26, 2023

I am not arguing with you but another member here did get rather colorful in his response to me saving that I did not understand that the tanks are to be bought.

Again diverse opinions and reports out there.

 

Whatever works, I say.

Germany drew the US in, or the US drew Germany in. Good for Ukraine, bad for Russia.

 

The reports / promises of tank for Ukraine are getting better. Of course this will be a HEINZ 57 variety deal and tough to control and maintain but Ukrainians are used to tough since they have shown that they are.

I am not familiar with the PT-91 but tanks are tanks. The more the merrier.

“Ukraine says Poland to send 60 PT-91 battle tanks, plus 14 Leopards”….

 

Yes totally agree.

 

I'm not sure as to how effective tanks are going to be. The problem is that Russia can freely bomb Ukraine at will and Ukraine is merely playing defense. Hoping to shoot out a percentage of the drones while never being able to shoot out 100 percent.

Ukraine needs to gain control over the sky and disarm Russia from the ability in doing that.

 

I'm not going to worry about it. A luta continua.

 

Anti air missiles systems are indeed needed badly. As are tanks, artillery, and drones and armored personal and recon vehicles. This is not a one dimensional enemy Ukraine is fighting.

 

Ukraine Conflict Updates
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, January 26, 2023

Click here to read the full report.
Key Takeaways

• Russian forces launched another massive series of missile and drone strikes across Ukraine on January 26.
• A recent altercation between Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and former Russian officer Igor Girkin is exposing a new domain for competition among Russian nationalist groups for political influence in Russia against the backdrop of Russian military failures in Ukraine.
• Russian President Vladimir Putin continued his campaign against critical and opposition voices by cracking down on several major opposition media outlets.
• The United States Treasury Department announced new sanctions targeting the Wagner Group’s global support network, likely in response to the Wagner Group’s renewed efforts to reinvigorate its operations outside of Ukraine.
• Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces relaunched counteroffensive operations near Kreminna.
• Russian forces continued ground attacks around Bakhmut, on the western outskirts of Donetsk City, and in the Vuhledar area.
• Ukrainian officials reported that Russian forces in Zaporizhia Oblast are not conducting offensive operations at the size or scale necessary for a full-scale offensive.
• Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces continued to conduct limited and localized ground attacks in Zaporizhia Oblast.
• The Wagner Group likely experienced significant losses in attritional offensive operations in eastern Ukraine over the past few months.
• Russian occupation officials are reportedly continuing to “nationalize” property and close places of worship belonging to the Ukrainian Evangelical Baptist Christian communities in occupied Zaporizhia Oblast in an effort to establish the Kremlin-affiliated Moscow Patriarchate Orthodox Church as the dominant faith in the region. . . .

Ukrainian officials reported on January 26 that Russian forces in Zaporizhia Oblast are not conducting offensive operations at the size or scale necessary for a full-scale offensive, supporting ISW’s previous assessment.[46] Head of the Ukrainian Joint Press Center of the Tavriisk Direction Defense Forces Yevhen Yerin stated that Russian forces have not massed a powerful enough strike group to conduct an offensive in the Zaporizhia direction but warned that Russian forces have somewhat strengthened their manpower presence in Zaporizhia Oblast at the cost of other units and directions of advance.[47] Yerin noted that the Russian troops continue to conduct ground attacks with 10-person (squad-sized) formations and to fire on Ukrainian forces with tube and rocket artillery.[48] Yerin also stated that Russian forces may intend to fix Ukrainian forces along the Zaporizhia Oblast frontline. These efforts are inconsistent with the continuing Russian information operation of an ongoing and successful Russian offensive in Zaporizhia Oblast.[49] . . . .

Ukrainian officials continue to report that Russian forces are forcibly mobilizing residents in violation of international law. Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hana Malyar reported on January 26 that Russian forces are continuing to forcibly mobilize residents in occupied territories and intentionally sending these Ukrainians to frontline positions without proper provisions and training.[63] Malyar reported that Russian servicemembers routinely assault and harass these forcibly mobilized Ukrainians.[64] Article 51 of the Geneva convention prohibits an occupying power from compelling protected civilian non-combatants from serving in its armed or auxiliary forces.[65] The systemic impressment of Ukrainian residents from occupied territories into the Russian Armed Forces also likely produces formations with substandard combat effectiveness that lack cohesion with other Russian formations. The Russian military may be engaging in this substandard force generation effort to decrease the Ukrainian population in occupied territories and support a likely deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign.[66] . . . .