I wish EV's would stop going all high-tech, just an electric motor, no cloud based technology needed When Tesla got caught locking batteries to not use their full potential without paying them a ransom fee, that should have been a warning message to people - do not buy cloud based cars
that's only in the best possible conditions so saying that that's what it's normally going to be strikes me as dishonest. I would think for most people that live a luxurious life enough that they could afford an electric car that is in an absolute pill box they would probably have a house and install a charger in the house to do the charging. That's a luxury you only have if you own your home. A BF fast chargers for an apartment complex or a car charger per car for an apartment complex probably not feasible. I would say copper thieves alone would destroy this the first night. I have a car that takes 3 minutes to recharge that I spent $8,500 on and through the time of owning it I haven't spent more than the cheapest electric car would cost. I didn't have to install a charger I don't have to worry about whether or not I can charge today the power went off and my truck started up just fine.
Well you did mention about EVs not working so well in the cold. EVs are here to stay.and I see dozens upon dozens during rush hour and I have a 30m commute each way.
30m each way is about right. That's a fine use for the EV. Longer trips, heavier loads, not so much. I'm skeptical of your claim to see "dozens upon dozens." I live in an area with EV early adopters and we don't have even a dozen.
JD Power: EVs and plug-in hybrids have more problems than ... https://techcrunch.com › 2022/06/28 › jd-power-evs-an... Jun 28, 2022 — The 2022 survey found that EV owners cited 39% more problems with their new vehicles than did owners of new combustion-engine vehicles.
As hinted by the article, a lot of the problems showing up have to do with software in the car and in the far more capable (and important) apps being created. With Tesla and at least some other EVs, the fixes come in over the air updates to all cars and apps, regardless of who might have noticed the problem, thus requiring no service center visit. In fact, in the case of Tesla updates have carried new features for the car. Even so, some of these problems have been called "recalls" by organizations that watch quality when the car's operation isn't impacted and no service center visit was required. All I mean by this is that the comparisons being made are not necessarily a comparison of the impact on customers, both in terms of ease of getting the fix and in terms of app issues being counted as issues with the car.
No, these cars are plug-in hybrids. The Rav4 Prime and the new Prius Prim (with the new battery pack) can drive for 40 miles when set to limit to plug-in electricity alone. That is the average commute in America. But, they have a gas engine as well and the Rav4 Prime can travel 600 miles on a full tank plus charged battery according to FuelEconomy.gov. Toyota has bet more heavily on its hybrid direction rather than going full ev. And, what they can accomplish is pretty impressive. I have a Rav4 Hybrid, not Prime. It has more power than the gas only version. That's the car I've used to drive the Siskiyou Mts several times. It has PLENTY of power to go well over the speed limit on the steepest stretches. Then one can watch it collect back some energy on the down slopes. The gas tank isn't that large, so it's a stretch to get over 500 miles. I want an EV, but I've never liked dumping great cars on the use car market. Maybe I'll give it to one of my daughters. Don't tell them I said that - lol!
I live in a wealthy area and right next to a super elite wealthy area. Add in all the new manufacturers and we have a change in autos. BTW my cousin from Fairfax VA icame up in a Tesla about 250 miles.
Another EV claim falls flat. Business Jalopnik Driving 100 Miles in an EV Is Now More Expensive Than in an ICE
Consumer Reports: New technologies make EVs less reliable https://www.cnbc.com › 2022/11/15 › consumer-report... Nov 15, 2022 — Electric vehicles are among the least reliable cars and trucks in the automotive industry today, according to Consumer Reports rankings released ...
Ford’s BlueCruise Ousts GM’s Super Cruise as CR’s Top-Rated Active Driving Assistance System Tesla Autopilot falls to midpack as other high-tech systems, like BlueCruise (shown), improve
True. But, the catch is that customer responses are not equally significant. Problems faced by customers include everything from their EV phone app having a problem with some feature to having problems requiring a lengthy service appointment.
Nonsense. That analysis was poorly described to say the least, and shows clear signs of being MASSIVELY flawed. For example, notice that those who charge at home are presumed to need a "charger" at home at a cost of about $4/100 miles. That's just plain nonsense. One doesn't pay for a home charger by dollars per mile. It's a fixed cost asset. Another problem here is that your cite says nothing about the actual prices being used. Another problem is that it says nothing about the number of states (or people) who faced low gas prices and high electricity prices in those specific months. AND, perhaps the worst is that it is TOTAL BS to pick a few months from one year to measure a factor that is about the lifetime of the vehicle.
Did you bother to look into this study AT ALL??? This study assumed that gas was selling for $2.80 per gallon. There are NO states in the USA where gas is that cheap. There are PLENTY of states where gas costs more than $4 per gallon. There are many other problems with this study than just the ones I pointed to.
One can use Consumer Reports to identify good cars that fit your needs. Let's remember that EVs are new technology for most corporations that are trying to make them. With the help of Consumer Reports and other respected reviewers one can dodge models that have problems. That's long been true for the quality differences between legacy vehicles, too. You can compare a Ram Truck to an F150, for example. I'm sure that new manufacturing challenges plus new features will result in higher responses on quality from customers. And, that is especially true with some of the feature areas that arrive with this new technology - such as phone apps. But, it is still the case that measuring this dimension purely by count of customer claims does NOT give a rational view of this issue.
You SEARCH for crappy studies that promote what you want to hear. And, it's is perfectly reasonable to point out that you absolutely did do exactly that in this case.
