POLICE BRUTALITY

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    So today we saw probably the worst police beating we have seen, even worse than George floyd. This was a brutal gang beating as the guy wasn't even resisting, it was like a mobster paid killing. The 5 officers? ALL BLACK...


    Are we finally going to look at this issue as non-racial issue?

    White cops kill more white people than they kill black people. FACT. Black cops kill blacks, latinos kill latinos... there is NO racial factor here. This is purely cop training, tactics, lack of integration with communities and just BAD people. Stop making it a race issue and then maybe we can focus on the real problems and fix it... The THUGS always want to make everything about race so they can profit from it, this includes BLM and other organized movements which really just want to profit from divisive racial wars...

    There are many people who are angry that these 5 guys weren't white because if they had been white, this would have been an opportunity to profit. BLM made millions off George Floyd and the race hustlers flourished, made a name for themselves. Message for Race thugs - dig a hole and disappear... Let others focus on the real problems and let's fix them.

     
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    It was police brutality. Funny how you only care about it with this incident.
     
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    It’s fascinating to see the number of people defending this and even more so the number of conservatives saying something about their color.

    We don’t care what color corrupt cops are — we care that they are cops.
     
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    exactly, bad cops are bad cops, regardless of their race
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "White cops kill more white people than they kill black people."

    Exactly, I think many on the right do not get this, bad cops effect everyone in society, we should ALL be against bad cops

    some on the right got upset when football players took a knee against bad cops, why?
     
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    The cops overreacted, and the question is about cop training and not race. Society needs cops to protect us from violence. The question is how we channel their reactions given the hostility directed toward police and the actions of violent criminals?

    The thugs in Atlanta oppose a police training center. Yet proper training is what police need. So what’s the problem in Atlanta? Maybe some of the anarchists there will stop long enough to give a reasonable, articulate answer.
     
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    Given that the overwhelming majority of cops don’t resort to police brutality I’d say it has nothing to do with not having enough training. It has to to with individuals not being able to control their emotions. There are just some people who shouldn’t be cops.
     
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    end the war on drugs, cops see traffic stops as an opportunity for a drug bust, that is what escalates most of these cases, cops are on fishing expeditions

    traffic cops just need to give their tickets and be on their way - unless there is a warrant, no other reason to remove someone from their car unless they were driving recklessly and appear intoxicated
     
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    I'm pretty sure we're seeing bad cops in action because let's face it, after all the crazed cop bashing from organized groups like BLM, and supported by rabid antipolice politicos, what good man or woman would even want to be a part of LE anymore. Think about it.

    These five haven't been cops that long.
    What we know about the 5 Memphis police officers charged with beating Tyre Nichols to death (nbcnews.com)
     
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    The training issue is that most of the cops are "trained" by one organization. After the Rodney King incident the focus was removed from using overt physical force to just shooting to kill. It made for better optics and the Slave Patrollers could claim that they "feared for their life." This was backed up by the Jim Crow DAs, who generally refused to prosecute the killer cops. The DA in Minneapolis (Freeman) was a prime example of that. He wouldn't willingly prosecute a cop if the cop had shot his own (Freeman's) mother in front of him.

    Lots of national politicians also gave their blessings to the Slave Patrollers. People also went along with it because it gave them the illusion of being against crime, with Blacks being the preferred targets. It also took the place of lynchings, which had fallen out of favor in the modern era. The old methods involved using dogs to attack people and spraying them with high pressure water hoses. That looked bad when shown on tv around the world. A nice quick shooting was much better because it left less evidence and the legal system could cover it up far easier.
     
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    the problem is, many 'racial thugs and race hustlers' just demonize ALL white cops and even good white cops. They don't care whether a white cop is good or bad, they spit on all their faces.... these are the profiteering race hustlers that just want to abolish cops and like to hate on whites

    We need to take race out of conversation or else we will never fix anything. Black on Black crime is FAR FAR WORSE than police brutality, thousands of blacks are killed by blacks a year and only a handful of blacks get killed by cops a year. No-one cares about the real issues... they look for opportunities to use race in order to profit

    Cops, by and large, are good. They are like any banker, restaurant owner, government employee; i.e., there are some bad one sand some good ones. The fact is the far majority are good and don't care about skin color...

    Today was just a case of 5 gangster cops.....bad people. This beating was far worse than what happened to George Floyd. Will it be as big as George Floyd? Will this victim get a statue? be a hero like George? Floyd was a criminal and a drug addict who once robbed a pregnant woman at gun point and BLM and many blacks hold him as some hero. He also resisted arrest and even though the white cop did some terrible, it is not as bad as what i saw on this video. This man was beaten repeatedly with intent to kill... it looked like 5 paid killers just beating the crap out of him. Here's the problem... they weren't white cops so this man will never get the attention George Floyd got. Floyd got all that attention because the guy who killed him was white as can be..

    race needs to be taken out of the equation when it really is not the issue.... the focus needs to be on the real issues.
     
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    I have to give it to white Americans, they are the only people who could watch a black man get beaten to death by cops and somehow make it all about their own sense of victimhood. What a sick society.
     
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    all irrelevant...

    live in the present. Go and see black and black crime and you will see hell... Cops today don't target blacks, they target criminals. Most violent crime is committed by blacks.. flip the tables. Have whites commit most of the violent crime, proportionally... you will see even more whites get killed by cops. Having said this, more whites do get killed by cops than blacks, twice as many....
     
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    Hold it bro. The left wing media is blaming this on white supremacy. If you didn’t get the memo, everything is racist.
     
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    only a twisted mind will make these accusations but that's because usually the people saying the above are the ones who are just looking for an excuse to use race to divide and bring down society.

    the OP is about focusing on the real issues, fixing the problems and not deflecting to racial wars for selfish gains.
     
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    I disagree. Even untrained people don’t murder innocent kids. This is about hiring the wrong people.
     
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    Then stop blaming white people for a murder by black people. Would that be too hard?
     
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    I don’t really watch left wing media, do you have a source?
     
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    CNN, MSNBC, and videos of black leaders in Memphis.
     
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    The only problem, is that your own commentary, barely touches upon, looking at the issue, in a non-racial way. In fact, your OP takes, almost exclusively, a racial slant. Did you not notice?
     
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    Will Tyre Nichols get the same attention as George Floyd? I guarantee not....

    The difference is one was killed by a white cop, the other wasn't. Tyre needs statues too, let's wait and see
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    the Floyd case got attention cause of the video and people defended it, I think most will agree this was wrong, when everyone agrees, less debate on it
     
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    Race has nothing to do with the incident but that hasn't stopped BLM from making it so.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-nichols’-death.607758/page-2#post-1073998570

    What I saw: This kid pissed the cops off somehow before the video started. I don't know what he did but they were pissed off.
    They got him on the ground and he kept trying to get away even as he said, "I'm on the ground". Then he actually got up and ran away. This pissed the cops off even more. Old fat cops don't want to run down the street after some young punk. It makes them mad. For reference, see Chris Rock's video on how to not get your ass kicked by the police. "If the police have to come and get you, they are bringing an ass kicking with them" Now that they were completely angry, it appears that he did something else to piss them off and they beat the crap out of him.

    Why isn't the black community, and maybe just the younger generation, doing some soul searching and figure out that they bring much of this on themselves? Yes, the cops over reacted. But, what did he do to instigate that reaction?
     
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    you seem confused. I mention the issues and attacking racial hustlers who use race for personal gain is not the same as being one of them. Surely, you must know the difference, i'm questioning your cognitive function now
     
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    You do more than just "mention" it: that is the genuine topic of your OP-- not police violence. But be that as it may, fine. Now that you have adequately mentioned that thing, which so inhibits our ability to have a productive discourse on police violence-- what ideas would you like to contribute, to this discussion?
     
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