George Soros Funds Global ‘Fact Checking’ Empire

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a better use of your time.
     
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    There's no need to because you provided the perfect example
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You see the word fact checker and a name and you automatically believe it probably because you want to likely because it affirms something you already agree with.

    All this does is make you less likely to question look at how defensive you're being in this thread
     
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    No, not at all. For me a fact checker just cuts down on the research I make, not eliminate it. That is just me.
     
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    Fact checkers are for the low information types. Researching multiple sources of information with an open mind, using critical thinking, and logic is work to some degree.
     
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    Of what?
     
  7. Polydectes

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    Nobody should accept any fact checker that is a scam. It's a source for a story that a news media created so they don't have to have real sources.

    You can create a fact checker that makes a difference the first and foremost step is don't call them the fact checker call them a journalist. Can they just tried to report it as non-biasly as they can. Some people will still hate them because they want to believe in something other than facts.
     
  8. Polydectes

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    yes precisely. Let's see a fact checker decided it was start confirming everything or both things Tucker Carlson said would you believe that fact checker or is it not believable and if so why?

    I'm guessing partisanship.
    So you're outsourcing your research and thinking that gives you the same quality. Lots of companies went bankrupt doing the same thing
     
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    lol. Your comment is not even close to what the OP was about, which was fact checkers being funded by George Soros to advance his agenda.

    Why do you suppose Soros funds these organizations?
     
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    Ah yes, we know all about “alternative facts” thanks to the right-wing machine, don’t we...?
     
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    Well, you can't blame Ant, thanks to Poly, "the OP" has been totally obfuscated and discredited. 8)
     
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  12. Polydectes

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    That's one of those alternative facts.

    There's a word for someone who believes only sources from one side of politics that's called biased.

    My position is the left and right are both equally as wrong as one another. I'm not letting my partisanship cloud my judgment
     
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    Some fantastic fact checking you were doing there.
     
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    I really do not care who the "facts" concern, I subject then to the same standards as any and all facts that I deal with and you know what, I still get them wrong at times, but I feel good that I honestly seek the truth.
    No, I am using other people's research as a starting point.
     
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    I only used Snopes as an example because it was the first one that popped into my head. Their accuracy isn't relevant to my point, the fact that their credibility is questioned by a meaningful portion of the population is the point. There is no fact checker that will be accepted widely enough to be useful. Even if it is 100% accurate.

    A journalist will never be a useful fact checker either for the same reason. There is not and never will be a reporter that is accepted widely enough to be a useful fact checker. They are people, and there will always be enough people to find a reason to believe they are biased to prevent them from being useful as a fact checker.

    Information is too easy to produce, there will always be enough people giving in to their confirmation bias to prevent a useful fact checker. I'm not suggesting that this is the fault of one side of the political spectrum.
     
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    Nothing but your opinions and your confirmation bias. Then you ask for evidence from others.
     
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    Here's an idea. Let's just turn fact checking over to the Government and eliminate profit. We could establish a ministry of truth like Biden's DHS proposed to do.
     
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    That's pretty much what's already happening but they have their media lap dogs, usefully doing their bidding for them
     
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    How about we discuss what we should do, instead of just being snide?

    Do you have any suggestions on how we can effectively fact check the garbage pile of information we have access to?

    Can you at least agree that this is a problem that we need a solution to?
     
  20. Polydectes

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    to consult fact checkers is to seek confirmation bias.

    A reputable journalist doesn't need to lie about being a fact checker.
    Did you know it research can be biased?
     
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    If his ideas were so great, we wouldn’t need to spend billions selling them to half-wits.
     
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    well I don't think snopes is an outlier I think it's very much the norm. It exists trust to give confirmation bias and that's why it's not trusted it's not trustworthy.
    this is the point I'm trying to make a fact checker is not useful. Because they are journalists with no credibility.

    Forget ever having a fact checker. They aren't useful and we don't need them.

    It's kind of has ministry of Truth vibes.
    Again there is no such thing as a useful fact checker you should never rely on someone to dictate the truth to you.

    Fact checkers are only useful to the intellectually lazy.
     
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    A lot of people create this conspiracy theory that the only reason you just trust George sorosis because lies you were told about him.

    The lies aren't as hairraising is the crap that falls out of the guys mouth.

    I put him in the category with Charles Schwab. Creepy billionaires that want people to be their puppets.

    I wonder if megalomania or God complex is part of this.
     
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    That is also important to know when seeking the truth.

    True.

    Of course.
     
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    Yes, fact checkers are only useful to the intellectual lazy.

    Have you looked around lately?

    There is a problem with people accepting bad information. It is a problem. it isn't about a person's political beliefs. It's because most people are lazy.

    We will suffer from this problem, we should address it.
     

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