How Barr’s Quest to Find Flaws in the Russia Inquiry Unraveled

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He found a member of the FBI that lied. He found that Mueller's team destroyed evidence.


    "More than two dozen cellphones belonging to members of special counsel Robert Mueller’s team were “wiped” clean of their data before the Justice Department’s inspector general could check them, according to a report."

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/members-of-muellers-team-wiped-phones-during-trump-probe-doj/

    Let's see what you come up with to defend this one...lol
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ooh, "according to a report" -- it must be true, then. </sarcasm>

    On the other hand, this was debunked more than two years ago.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...theory-about-mueller-team-wiping-cell-phones/

    " ... former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann said all of the data contained on the phones was intentionally backed-up prior to the phones being wiped."

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...dence-fbi-officials-texts-deliberately-erase/
     
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  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, bullshit, because if that were true the IG would know where to find it.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, Barr's back pedaling when Maher questioned him about the whitewash he did on the Mueller Report summary was amusing.

    Anyway, I posted on NYTimes piece yesterday -- Oh well.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/how-barr’s-quest-to-find-flaws-in-the-russia-inquiry-unraveled.607723/

    Will the real DOJ weaponizer please stand up?

    Turns out, it was Bill Barr and Trump, all along. they started with a theory, without a stitch of evidence, that The FBI, CIA and the Brits were out to get Trump, and in this pursuit, they couldn't find the evidence to bring a case. It got so bad that...

    Nora R. Dannehy in 2009. A longtime aide to Mr. Durham, Ms. Dannehy resigned from his team in 2020 after disputes with him over prosecutorial ethics

    Heck, Barr and Durham even went to the UK to interview intel folks over there, who were taken aback by the insinuations.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/us/politics/durham-trump-russia-barr.html

    It became a regular litany of grievances from President Donald J. Trump and his supporters: The investigation into his 2016 campaign’s ties to Russia was a witch hunt, they maintained, that had been opened without any solid basis, went on too long and found no proof of collusion.

    Egged on by Mr. Trump, Attorney General William P. Barr set out in 2019 to dig into their shared theory that the Russia investigation likely stemmed from a conspiracy by intelligence or law enforcement agencies. To lead the inquiry, Mr. Barr turned to a hard-nosed prosecutor named John H. Durham, and later granted him special counsel status to carry on after Mr. Trump left office.

    But after almost four years — far longer than the Russia investigation itself — Mr. Durham’s work is coming to an end without uncovering anything like the deep state plot alleged by Mr. Trump and suspected by Mr. Barr.

    [...]

    There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained
    resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)

    And the story deepens considerably, if you read the article.

    In short, The Trump demanded, Barr acquiesced, Durham investigation to 'make heads roll' --find the dirt on the investigators, has fallen flat on it's face -- a complete dud. And this folks, is the anatomy of a REAL witch hunt.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you're trying to say that many in this country have ignored the lessons of the Twitter files, I agree. Cognitive dissonance is part of the human condition.
     
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    I don't use Twitter. What I'm saying they ignored were reports by Italian authorities alerting about financial crimes by Trump. In the sense that they investigated them, but never made public the results of the investigation. But THAT was the Durham "criminal investigation" that MAGAs on Fox and Breitbart were high-fiving each other because it would land Hillary, Obama and Mueller in prison. And right-wingers here were echoing them. But, as has now become usual, they were wrong.
     
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    Oh, come on! You know quite well that all government agencies insist on redundancies on top of redundancies, not to mention keeping plenty of CYA files.

    Can you prove that the IG couldn't access the phone records? Which IG? When?
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you referring to the person Durham prosecuted? Durham lost the case. He lost both cases he pursued. He found zilch in his quest to smear the FBI in their investigation of Trump on Trump's behalf. It was plainly a weaponization of the DoJ.
    In the future when you make allegations like there was evidence destruction back it up with a link.
     
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    Only if you find the facts nonsense. It was a BRISTLING attack on the FBI. But as I said IG investigations are HIGHLY limited in their scope.
     
  10. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure ... right ... don't hold your breath.

    :happycry:

    Getting the right to back up their claims is like trying to nail jello to the wall. They ignore, or deflect, or obfuscate by changing the subject. :disbelief:
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my experience the reason they often don't provide links to substantiate their claims is they are too embarrassed to admit to the sources they use.
     
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    Lawmakers Call for Inquiry Into Durham’s Review of Russia Investigation

    WASHINGTON — Two House Democrats urged the Justice Department’s independent inspector general on Wednesday to open an investigation into the special counsel review of the Russia inquiry, citing “alarming” disclosures in a recent New York Times article.

    The article, which showed how the special counsel’s review became roiled by disputes over prosecutorial ethics, “reveals possible prosecutorial misconduct, abuse of power, ethical transgressions and a potential cover-up of an allegation of a financial crime committed by the former president,” the lawmakers wrote. In a four-page letter to the inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, they asked that he scrutinize whether the special counsel, John H. Durham, or the attorney general who appointed him, William P. Barr, “violated any laws, D.O.J. rules or practices, or canons of legal ethics.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/us/politics/durham-barr-russia-investigation.html

    Obviously, the House Judiciary Committee should investigate Durham's probe. Just as obviously Jordan wants nothing to do with it.

    Dear Inspector General Horowitz,
    As former prosecutors and Members of Congress, we are alarmed by a recent New York Times article¹that revealed possible misconduct by Special Counsel John Durham and then-Attorney General Bill Barr in connection with Mr. Dunham's fruitless four-year investigation. At former President Donald Trump's urging, Mr. Barr appointed Mr. Durham as a special counsel to investigate the origins of the Russia inquiry codenamed Crossfire Hurricane. Rather than vindicate former President Trump, the Durham investigation instead resulted in two failed political prosecutions, two career prosecutors resigning in protest, an abuse of the grand jury process, an attempt to suppress a part of your lengthy and detailed report, and a misleading narrative presented to the American people that hid an allegation of a financial crime committed by the former President. We are referring this case for your review to determine whether there was sufficient grounds to open the investigation in the first instance, and whether Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham violated any laws, DOJ rules or regulations, or canons of legal ethics.

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/Lieu and Goldman letter requesting inspector general investigation into Barr and Durham/d1a1af56f980a928/full.pdf
     
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  13. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great. So we have an investigation into an investigation, and now we're going to investigate that investigation.

    FFS, doesn't anyone see how absurd that is? Is this what we the people are paying them for?
     
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