Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Biden “Abused His Power” by Lowering Gas Prices

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Ummm, yes? :fingerscrossed::hiding:
     
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    Geebus, the lack of research from the right is astounding.

    I back up all of my claims with FACTS, something the right seems allergic to. See the links in #62 and #167.
     
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    I had to mosey over to your profile page to read your signature since I have those toggled off for the same reason that I don’t rely on bumperstickers for cogent political thought.

    Biden has approved more permits than the Trump Administration did in three years.
    So that oughta make you happy!
     
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    No, because the EPA had too much power, to begin with.
     
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    Learn what proof is. Also, the post I responded to contained no facts, only opinions. It wasn't until later that you tried to 'prove' your opinion was right.

    He did it for votes and you won't be able to show otherwise. You certainly won't be able to prove it.

    It's my opinion that the primary reason was for votes. Just because it had other consequences doesn't mean that wasn't the primary reason for it.

    Biden will never come out and admit it so it will always be my opinion vs yours, you'll have to get over it. You will always defend biden no matter what so you won't take up any more of my time. Your partisanship is clear and it's not worth arguing with you. Biden will get your defense no matter what....I know it and I'm moving on.
     
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    Quote; “He put the U.S. back into a place where we are dependent on foreign oil”

    Really?

    Critical Thinking….

    Critical Thinkers do ask themselves questions, such as;

    1. When was the last time we we not dependent on foreign oil?

    Anticipated answer from Republicans; When Trump was POTUS

    2. When Trump was POTUS, were crude oil
    exports higher than imports?

    3. When Trump was POTUS, was our record high crude oil production, and its refined products, mainly gasoline and diesel, HIGHER or LOWER than our daily consumptions?

    The most challenging question is # 3

    More critical thinking;

    a. What was our record high domestic crude oil production?

    Answer; 13,000 thousand barrels per day, or 13 million barrels per day, November 2019

    b. How many gallons of diesel and gasoline are made from one 42-gallon barrel of crude oil?

    Answer; 20 gallons of gasoline/12 gallons of diesel, thus, 6.2 million barrels of gasoline per day, and 3.7 million barrels of diesel per day

    c. In 2019, what was our average daily consumptions of gasoline/diesel?

    Answer; Gasoline/Diesel combined, if more than than 10 million barrels per day, then we had to rely on refining foreign crude oil.

    psst; I already know the answer.
     
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    Exactly. There's no such thing as being dependent on oil and not being dependent on foreign oil. It's a global market. The only way to truly move away from our foreign oil dependence is to move away from our oil dependence.
     
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    Meanwhile, would you rather import finished products, or unprocessed materials, such as crude oil?
     
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    The Ukraine War is a convenient scape goat for failed democrat policies that most agree contributed to increased costs.

    Biden took action to save face just before the election.

    You all can buy the story if you want.
    Sorry the left is too engrained to realize it.
     
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    Biden Announces Student Loan Forgivness

    August 24, 2022

    Biden indefinatley pauses Student Loan Forgivness

    November 22, 2022



    But he thanks you for your vote.
     
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    Just like that Biden did a 180°?
    It had nothing to do with the fierce opposition (court battles) from “conservatives”?
    Huh.
     
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    1. There was a SEVERE energy supply interruption in late 2022?

    80 cents increase in cost is severe, it's causing "interruptions"??

    Here is how the bill defines "severe"


    (A) an emergency situation exists and there is a significant
    reduction in supply which is of significant scope and duration;
    (B) a severe increase in the price of petroleum products
    has resulted from such emergency situation; and
    (C) such price increase is likely to cause a major adverse
    impact on the national economy.
     
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    And you believe Biden's statement of energy policy was cogent?

    Why did you leave out that that was only for public lands?

    This doesn't make me happy.

    Biden Administration Halts New Oil And Gas Drilling Permits
    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...n-Halts-New-Oil-And-Gas-Drilling-Permits.html

    Biden Admin Issues Fewest Oil And Gas Drilling Leases Since The 1940s:
    https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/06/biden-admin-issued-fewest-oil-gas-leases-since-1946
     
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    We have not release to bring down prices and this is nothing like anything before. Congress needs to step in and stop him.
     
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    That is from the act.

    The President is NOT to play oil barron with it and speculate in the market with it geeezzzz...:wall:..let me guess Biden is claiming to be an OIL MAN now.
     
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    It’s a valid point-of-view to deny oil exploration on Federally owned land or waterways.
    So that’d be a “yes” to your query, (though I do not necessarily agree with that as policy).

    Because that’s what the debate posturing was about.

    The first is about how the Administration had to regroup after a court decision, (unless you’d like for the Biden Administration to disregard court rulings, I don’t see the beef?)
    Besides this article was pre-Ukraine-Russian war and things have changed.
    The link from the DailyCaller might be correct, (I dunno), but it would be in line with the policy articulated in the debate.
     
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    The increase in gas prices came directly from increased oil prices and to some degree, supply chain issues. Gas and oil companies have stated that clearly.

    The US does NOT have control over oil prices. Oil is a private industry. Prices are controlled by the commodity market for oil.

    Didn't you notice that Trump failed in HIS efforts to affect oil price?

    One of the very few things Biden could try was to sell oil from our reserve, thus changing demand.

    Also, the US raised interest rates, which is a method of fighting inflation. But, the president has no control over that, either.


    You're just sewing partisan nonsense.
     
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    “We” (Trump) did go to OPEC and beg for them to cut production (2020-2022) to help stabilize the American oil market though. So there’s that.
     
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    LOL. Is that really ALL you know about this subject, or are you picking facts to suit your blatant partisanship.

    Biden forgave student loans, because the effort to do that through congress failed.

    The plan was halted due to the Republican legal assault on education spending in this way.

    The outcome will determine whether some new approach is required.
     
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    Quote; As recently as the Trump Administration, oil corporations were going out of business because of a low price of oil.

    I could tell you at least 100 stories, but I’ll tell this;

    I personally know one company, 4 different owners within two years, and the last owner, Big Integrated…..”cheap assets”

    Just a rat race among junior players, and financed by Wall Street.
     
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    LOL, spoken like a true Trump loyalist. Use different rules for different folks and pretend that one is abusing the power while the other is expanding his own.
     
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    You're comparing apples to oranges, just like a true Leftist.
     
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    Even apples and oranges can be compared sometimes.

    Checkmate.
     
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    We've regularly release to bring down prices . . . when have we ever released for anything else?
     
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    republicans put stopped the student loan forgiveness program, hope all those with college debt remember that come 2024
     
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