Conservatives call for charges against Biden after Trump indictment

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  1. Condor060

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    Not according to Cohens attorneys letter to the FEC.
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    So you think trump lied?
     
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    You are going to have to clarify.
    Lied about what?
     
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    He said it was repaid, as did his lawyer Rudy
     
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    I believe Trump stated

    Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA. These agreements are very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels). The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair,..
     
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    So he reimbursed him
     
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    Victor Davis Hanson: Indict One... And All?
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    'Were the opposition to match tit-for-tat these Democratic means, then the republic would not survive..'.

    They must be checked.

    'Trump is currently ahead in the polls for the Republican nomination to face Democratic incumbent Biden. And in head-to-head matchups, he outpolls Biden. For a prosecutor of the same party as the current president facing reelection to seek to destroy the viability of a likely opponent is a first in U.S. history. But again, it is now in accordance with Third World norms.'

    Too many Dems think in 3rd world norms.

    'The current indictment follows a long line of historic harassment of Trump, including the first incidence of two impeachments of a sitting president, the first impeachment trial of a president as a private citizen, and the first FBI armed raid of a retired president’s home, the first instance of an FBI director leaking confidential presidential conversations to the media for the purpose of appointing a special counsel to remove a president.'

    SELECTIVE PROSECUTION

    '1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.'

    '2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server.'

    '3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent.'

    '4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.'

    '5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel.'

    '6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium.'
     
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    '7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.'

    '8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests.'

    '9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs.'

    '10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices.'

    '11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records.'

    '12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators.'

    Selective enforcement.
     
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    '13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress.'

    '14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress.'

    '15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress.'

    '16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller.'

    '17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation.'

    /18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.”'

    '19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas.'

    '20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, and a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood.'

    Selective prosecution by a Soros-Puke Scum Prosecutor.
     
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    Reimbursement for a private contract.
     
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    The charges against Trump are bogus... but, it makes leftists giggle and jiggle.

    On the other hand, the crimes of the Biden family and the Clinton family are obvious.

    But, since the Clintons and Bidens are protected by the powerful, big money Establishment, and all of our institutions are compromised by corrupt people who are loyal to the power elites, and ideologically predisposed to leftist, authoritarian rule - nothing will ever be done about the Clinton or Biden crime families.

    I'm sure Obama is just as dirty, but his web of protection is airtight.
     
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    So not legal fees, thus the charges
     
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    He can list the payments any way he wants.
    Unless he defrauded someone out of money, had an intent to defraud someone or evaded taxes, you have no crime.
    Can you tell us who the victim is?
    Neither can anyone else
     
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    The intent was to hide the illegal campaign expenditure
     
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    What part of intent to defraud is eluding you
     
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    He intended to defraud the FEC, is this that hard to follow?
     
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    None of that backs up what you said:

    Under this hypothetical, the grand jury proceeding is still held before a judge. It is not the AG who unilaterally makes the decision. The judge makes the call on if the case is legally valid, and it is the grand jury who determine if the evidence is sufficient.

    The judge has nothing to do with that.
     
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    You have this problem of doing roundy rounds not able to retain information.
    So you read Cohens attorney letter
    And you know the FEC only charged Cohen for his provision of over $2700 to a candidate.
    And you know the FEC didn't charge Trump
    Then you come back and try and claim the FEC was defrauded?
    Your selective amnesia is pretty convenient.
     
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    Do you have another reason he lied about what the payments were?
     
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    So you got sold on how normal accounting logging principles are now magical criminal felony lies because the payment logs don't exactly state what the payment was for? Even though nobody was financially defrauded, even though there is no tax evasion, even though there is no victim, but the ledger name is all it takes to make it a felony?
    This is what you got?
    Trumps accounting staff logged payments to Cohen as attorney fees but you got buffaloed into believing it was a felony to name the ledger wrong?
    You can't make this stuff up.
     
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    He and Cohen were trying to hide evidence of the payments. Why do you think he didn’t make them himself? Or just cut Cohen a personal check?
     
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    what is to clarify?? He has lied about just everything.......directly or indirectly........as he is as slippery as an eel.
    He is a serial liar..........

    but is so busy trashing everyone and anyone that presents the facts about him. the most concerning part is that he has NO respectforthe law........as long asit can be manipulated in his favor.........as in his mind he is never wrong. Out of touch with reality.
     
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    All you have to do is get Cohens law firm to admit they lied to the feds in their letter about Trump not being a party to the transaction and that Cohen did this without Trumps knowledge
    Best of luck with that.
     
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    Wow, talk about an emotional response. Good God. lol
     
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    Pretty sure he already admitted that.
    So now your claim is trump didn’t know? Didn’t you already post his lawyer saying he did?
     

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