Trans woman showered with four Wisconsin high school girls, violated their privacy, letter to distri

When you don't have any policy, direction or class, finding a minority group to target is all the platform you need.

 

That's a whole other thing, the guy in the incident should not have been allowed in the girls shower even with curtains.

 

No penises in girls spaces.

 

So you keep saying, until you see a former woman who looks like a man. Then you change your mind. Funny, that.

 

You are mistaken. If there is a penis, then to the men's room you go. Has always been my position.

 

That isn't the same. Do you think its a giant coincidence there are no F2Ms trying to play in Men's sports but yet so many M2F trying to play in Women's sports?
Also, a F2M is not really a danger to MEN in a MEN'S bathroom. What are they gonna do? overpower them? lol
also, there's a reason why Joe Biden isn't applying the draft rules to F2Ms, because they aren't really men
You're gonna need a better talking point if you wanna try and make it seem like its ok for a 6'5 380 lbs muscle beast that identified as female yesterday doing his makeup next to a 14 year old in a woman's bathroom
Do the math
Then picture it
Then accept the ridiculousness of it all

Thank you

 

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Let's just gut to the chase. An 18 year old male pretending to be a female violated the privacy rights of four freshmen girls after their swim class, and disturbed them with his presence when he got into the showers with them. The male imposter, who exposed his male genitalia to them, was not in the swim class nor was he involved in any other PE class at the time. The school dropped the ball, violated Title IX, and should have notified the girls that they had the right to file a complaint. Is this the new normal?

 

Maybe, it was the local governments call to make, I assume they have a better handle on how their populace would react to that sort of thing. In a perfect world women's bodies wouldn't be sexualized so much as to make the base assumption that penis haver's will misuse the shower as an opportunity to creep on em'. But that's a long ways off.

 

Or how about MEN in the MEN'S room and WOMEN in the WOMEN'S room? all i hear from your post is philosophy but no substance. How hard is it just to say its wrong! SHEESH
unbelievable with you folks

 

She didn't do anything wrong. Assuming that's where she was told she could be by the local government to shower there she was pretty upfront (no pun intended) about her anatomy. Based on the report she wasn't leering or being sexual, just showering. Maybe it wasn't the best call to allow her in there but it wasn't malicious just an attempt to accommodate a student's beliefs. If we didn't sexualize women/ girls and nudity in general this wouldn't be a problem. People wouldn't assume she was abusing the opportunity to oogle anyone and the girls could take a shower and go about their day.

 

So you are saying its OK for a male high school senior (practically an adult) to expose his genitals to female freshmen (practically children) in a space that is supposed to be SAFE for them?
are you sure you don't want to rethink that?
I find your response HIGHLY DISTURBING.
"if we didn't sexualize women"?
are you kidding me?
Its the biological womens' fault now?
are you saying they should all wear hijabs now?
if i'm taking you out of context then please, correct me

 

I think that is pretty much the current attitude

Assuming the story as discussed here is accurate, this guy was not involved in any sports activity at the school so why was he even in the shower? It's a bit sketchy.

 

I am critical of societal norms that don't serve a purpose, I tend to disturb those that aren't.
Society has a problem with nudity because its seen as inherently sexualized. If we didn't sexualize nudity, especially female nudity, people seeing each other naked would be a non-issue. But because societally we tie nudity to sexuality, and sexuality tied to morality, nudity is wrong, outside of specific arbitrary scenarios.
How would it be women's fault? What is it that I said that lead you to that conclusion?
I think people should be able to wear whatever they want without being sexualized.

 

I think I took this statement of yours out of context "If we didn't sexualize women/ girls and nudity in general this wouldn't be a problem.".

if thats the case, sorry

 

That's an interesting angle I hadn't considered, though I have used school showers in the past without having a "legit" reason to do so. It would be a good idea to have some guidelines involving when folk are allowed in the shower in the first place. Having a trusted adult overseeing the locker room when its expected to be in group use mode also strikes me as a good common sense rule.

 

Thanks for the apology, and no worries; online communication is notorious for miscommunication.

 

Now it's human nature lol. I hate to say your musings on this are flat out frightening for woman. So much for women's rights.

 

For most of human history nudity wasn't provocative. You are mistaking our cultural socialization with human nature. A society that connects sexuality with nudity will always put blame on what a victim wears and tie morality with wardrobe expression.
How does what I say lead to a reduction of women's rights?

 

I always found that sex went better when it included nudity

 

It’s not different. But I also would have an issue if it was any adult. It’s inappropriate

 

Right, and I find it always better when I can get some cardio in too, but I don't become aroused when pumping watts into my bike.

 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. How does transgenderism abolish sex? How have all of our civic institutions been captured, and what does that even mean in this context? What is this broader agenda? What is the threat in letting people express their beliefs in this way? What is the harm in a government/ society that makes reasonable accommodations for someone's beliefs?

 

A childs first experience seeing a penis in person should never be when some man pretending to be a woman strips nude in front of them. Let the dude get the surgery first then strip in front of the opposite sex.

 

Fox lies is not to be trusted.
They settled a lawsuit and admitted to making false claims.

I suggest a different source for credibility.