9 dead, 43 injured in Chicago Memorial Day weekend shootings

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Your statement is false, and you knew it was false when you made it.
    Under your standard, there are no rights.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No….you just cant rebut what was said…..Owning a gun is NOT a “right”. It is a privilege because it can be revoked.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again….Can a felon be denied the “right” to own a gun ?

    Its a simple question …..
     
  4. TOG 6

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    Under your standard, there are no rights, as all rights can be revoked.
    Thus, your standard, proven unsound.
     
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    Under your standard, there are no rights, as all rights can be revoked.
    Thus, your standard, proven unsound.
     
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    I agree with you. Most all you will post with on what is a right or not, all believe in some form of infringement of arms ownership. But when your line in the sand differs from theirs, you will get the run around. Hence why I said circle jerk.

    Which will be followed by ad hom lies about what you believe. Because they claim to be mind readers as well.
     
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    All rights, except maybe the right to life, are man made and need to be granted and then enforced in some fashion.
     
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    You proceed from the false premise that the right keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd amendment, includes the right for all people to own and use all weapons
    As such your claim, above, is false.
     
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    There is no right to life -- it is a privilege because it can be revoked.
     
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    FFS man, it’s not MY standard, its the LEGAL standard

    YOU claim it a right, and the law very clearly says your wrong.
     
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    they shot him because they could.

     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realise that all those victims in the OP and the victims mentioned by the "anti gun poster starts over shooting incidents" all died in the same way so perhaps you could explain your point?
     
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    No.
     
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    Really :wierdface:

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    Overview of Second Amendment, Right to Bear Arms | U.S. Constitution Annotated | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
     
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    No.
     
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    Its not.
    If it were, no right would exist.
    Your standard is invalid, and thus, your argument unsound.
     
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    that makes absolutely no sense in terms of the point I made
     
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    No. We have a cultural problem.
     
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    yes, one can have rights abrogated by due process of law/ being incarcerated removes many rights-as you well know
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chicago doesn't have 9 million people. More like 2.4

    The metro area is 11 million, and if that's the number used to define murder rate, that's pretty dishonest.

    Also, some neighborhoods in Chicago are much more violent than others. Go check those stats in Austin, Englewood, North Lawndale.

    https://www.covesmart.com/resources...ts-of-chicago-how-to-stay-safe-in-a-red-zone/
     
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    each one of us is a militia of one
     
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    Just as I thought. The old boy missed another opportunity while having one of his interns bang out another daily tweet about how much he cares about ending the senseless gun killings. I guess the gun violence in Chicago doesn't count.

    Bwahahaha!
    President Biden on Twitter: "For so long, it's been hard to make progress on gun violence. But I know there will come a point where our voices are so loud, our determination so clear that we can no longer be stopped. We will act. https://t.co/DtXLpBOmWJ" / Twitter
     
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