9 dead, 43 injured in Chicago Memorial Day weekend shootings

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    he's a senile POS who is determined to destroy the USA by breaking it up into warring special interest groups
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meanwhile, sitting in the cheap seats with the rest of the greaseballs, Newsom shoots his mouth off and then gets fact checked. Why do people like Newsom and Biden just shoot from the hip and make up their own facts?

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    California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s obsession with Ron DeSantis completely blew up in his face Monday night after attempting to blame him for a mass shooting in Florida.

    As Gateway Pundit readers know, Cristina Laila reported Monday night that nine Memorial Day beach goers were injured in a mass shooting near the Margaritaville Hollywood Beach Resort in Florida. Three of the victims were minors.

    Five individuals were taken into custody following the incident and one suspect remains at large.

    Police have not determined a motive for the shooting.

    Newsom pounced before the bodies were even cold. He blamed the mass shooting on a bill DeSantis signed back in April. Under the legislation, individuals will no longer need to obtain a permit to carry concealed firearms according to Fox News.

    “Until our leaders have the courage to stop bowing down to the NRA and enact common sense gun safety this kind of senseless violence will continue,” Newsom tweeted.

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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/gavin-newsoms-attempt-blame-ron-desantis-signed-gun/
     
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    The old boy misses multiple opportunities to speak for himself on many important subjects.
    Yep, his underlings are being used to bang out daily tweets about how much he cares about ending the senseless gun killings.
    Of course the gun violence in Chicago doesn’t count.
    That particular gun violence doesn’t count because that doesn’t enhance his political agenda. Since, it is actually a hindrance to his political agenda.

    Thanks for the quote from twitter. Worth repeating… “For so long, it's been hard to make progress on gun violence. But I know there will come a point where our voices are so loud, our determination so clear that we can no longer be stopped. We will act.”

    :twocents: Critique of that :above: message follows…

    The real reason it’s not our fault that it is taking so long and why it has been so hard for us to make any progress concerning the “Gun Violence”… (But, only in some particular important locations in America that will enhance our political agenda. (P.S. Please, Ignore the gun violence in Chicago!)

    (That section :above: is them playing the blame game directed at the Democrats opposition party being totally at fault for all of their failures)

    However, there will come a point in time when our loud voices will finally convince all of the people that our determination in the future will be so clear that we can no longer be stopped!!! Then, and only then, Will, we act on the people’s behalf!!! They are not in a hurry to solve any problems.
    They create problems on purpose. imho

    Some Signature “Quotes” from President Joe Biden follow …
    “That’s not hyperbole, That’s a fact”
    “You think I’m kidding. It’s not a joke.”
    “I’m not joking” “I’m serious”
    “No, I really mean it”
    “I’m not being facetious” “

    Yes…Bwahahaha! imho The current Democratic Party does not promote the idea of… “
    United We Stand Divided We Fall” motto. I think, Biden lied, when he promised he would be the “Uniter of The People”.
    The current Democratic Party has chosen to create fear and chaos in order to divide and conquer the people. They are Power Hungry. imho
     
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    You have never understood the words 'shall not be infringed'.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why don't you explain it, in the context of the tenth amendment and Article One Section Eight
     
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    Usually not by gov't. But yes, it can be revoked. Like any so called rights.
    Now you understand rights are only guaranteed by some outside force. Or, might makes right.
     
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    which explains why the second helps guarantee the others
     
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    As you said a few posts earlier.
    Anything that can be revoked, is not a right.

    You're all over the map.
    NO INHERENT OR NATURAL RIGHT can EVER NEVER be revoked.
     
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    How infringement free are you to own a fully automated rifle or a gatling gun
     
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    Why? It's your concern. Not the 2A concern.
     
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    So why are there infringements allowed? Why are you ok with infringements of any kind if they arms can guarantee other rights?
     
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    I have already explained that FDR's court ignored the tenth amendment and I am not going to waste my time dealing with your game of claiming if we support bans on nukes we are no different than you and your desire to ban semi auto magazine fed rifles
     
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    you seem to think that the existence of obvious violations of the second and tenth amendment mean we are OK with it.
     
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    Guns can't be blamed but Chicago, by its very existence, can be huh? You missed the elephant in the corner. Chicago has a massive population closing in on 3 million residents. Their 9 deaths this weekend is one per 300,000. That means that any gun death in a good swath of America this weekend would have been statistically worse than those 9 in Chicago.
     
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    I have 3 friends who simply paid a fee, got a background check and now own at least 1 select fire carbines: (full auto AND semi auto vs semi auto only).

    So, actually, any American who is eligible to buy a semi auto firearm can buy a select fire rifle, carbine or pistol but I have no interest in owning one.

    How about you?
     
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    If guns are the problem, why does Houston, TX, which presumably has looser gun laws than Chicago, have less of a "gun problem" than Chicago?

    By the way, I chose Houston TX at random because it was on a list of cities that are about the same size.

    Thanks,



    “Houston violent crime dropped by 10 percent in 2022, police survey shows”
    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...ed-by-10-percent-in-2022-police-survey-shows/

    EXCERPT “Houston saw a nearly 10 percent decrease in murders and other violent crimes from 2021 to 2022 – a sharper year-over-year decline than the United States as a whole – according to a nationwide report released Thursday by a professional organization for police executives.” CONTINUED


    "Chicago, IL Reported One of the Highest Murder Rates in the US"
    https://247wallst.com/city/chicago-il-reported-one-of-the-highest-murder-rates-in-the-us/

    EXCERPT "Chicago, Illinois, is among the U.S. cities with the highest homicide rates. There were a total of 771 murders reported in the city in 2020, or 28.6 for every 100,000 people — well above the national homicide rate of 6.5 murders per 100,000." CONTINUED


     
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    This is obviously fake news. Chicago has some of the most draconian gun control laws in the nation. Ergo, all these shootings & attendant injuries are baldfaced lies. Duh.
     
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    Because they know their useful idiots will mindlessly parrot their claims without thinking for a moment to see if thy are true.

    Just another example of how the (D)ishonest prey upon the emotions of the ignorant.
     
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    You proceed from the false premise that the right keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd amendment, includes the right for all people to own and use all weapons
    As such your claim, above, is false.
     
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    And so, you believe there are no rights.
    And thus, the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    You proceed from the false premise that the right keep and bear arms, as protected by the 2nd amendment, includes the right for all people to own and use all weapons
     
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    Oooops!

    You caught me with more fake news.

    Yes, Chicago has strict gun laws and their criminals are terrified of them.

    So, all those human speed bumps you see littering the streets at sunrise aren't really dead people.....
    They just identify as being dead.
     
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    It's way more than ban on nukes. In fact, I haven't said anything of nukes in over a year.
    There's still plenty of crew serve weapons I am sure most all of you have no problems being infringed. Even likely claymors and LAWs.
     
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    It's not a false premise. It's stated in the 2A, shall not be infringed.

    You just don't agree with the 2A in its entirety.
     
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    do you intentionally forget what people have stated to you in the past? I know (unlike the evasive anti gun posters who have such a hard time actually stating a concrete position) I have discussed what arms/weapons/firearms are clearly covered by the second, which are clearly not and which are in a grey area
     
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