Getting back to the abortion issue i.e. Roe overturned..

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  1. Winter Sun

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    You live in your own dippy reality. The majority American women will never accept your premise. The problem with people like you is you don’t acknowledge or respect the identity of women and the emotional impact of putting girls though things like giving birth to a rapists baby at 10 years old.
     
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    WTH are you going on about? American women have rights. Eagles don’t.
     
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    No more rights than any American Man. No more rights than any other man or woman for that matter. Nobody has any more or any less rights than anybody else. That's how "rights" work.
     
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    Why do the baby killers always rely on tragic outliers get a few tears shed?

    Sure kill the rape baby if you must. In fact killing the rape baby might be one of them Roman Catholic indulgences for all I know.
     
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    So you advocate for stripping Rights just because the majority says so? Got it. In which case no one has Rights. Just privileges. Remember that the next time you argue for any "Rights". Even supposed "Abortion Rights".
     
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    First, I have not mentioned murder at all. Second there is a difference between fertilization and conception. Fertilization happens before conception. Conception happens about a week to a week and a half after fertilization when new unique DNA is formed. Birth control pills, preventing implantation, means that the egg is flushed from the body before conception.
     
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    Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death
     
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    Why did she spread her legs and let him in if she did not want it?

    Is she too stupid to know that intercourse may result in pregnancy?
     
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    Answer this question.

    Is having sexual intercourse 100% guaranteed to result in conception. Yes or no?
     
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    I, like most Americans, respect a woman's right to make personal, private decisions concerning reproduction prior to the gestative stage of viability.

    There are some extremists who are fanatical about their politicians seizing control of all wombs from the instant of impregnation.
     
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    DUH, because humans have sex...it's part of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness that women ALSO have a right to...


    Where would you get that idea? From the Misogynist's Handbook ?
     
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    TO all these people who think fetuses have rights....,.why TF do you think they have MORE rights than even YOU have????


    Because if you believe that a fetus has a right to use another's body to sustain their life then YOU HAVE GIVEN THE FETUS MORE RIGHTS THAN ANYONE ELSE HAS,,,,


    Also: If you believe in making exceptions for rape ....that is very hypocritical...and illogical.
     
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    If you think an embryo has the right to use a woman’s body as a life support system, then women have less rights as men and embryos.
     
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    Tragic outliers? That just shows how you feel about women and girls getting hurt by your insane beliefs. I shouldn’t have to deal with life long trauma for your religion. No woman or girl should. Step the **** off my rights.
     
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    Fertizlation happens before implantation. A fertilized egg will not give you a positive pregnancy test. A women is pregnant after the egg implants. You belief system would suggests that if birth control prevents implantation, killing that fully formed separate dna life form, it’s some kind of human rights violation.
     
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    No. But you ain't 100% guaranteed to die if you jump off a cliff either. You could wear a parachute and increase your chances, but the possibility of pregnancy cannot be eliminated unless you don't Jump. You knew it was a cliff. You knew you could get pregnant or get your girl pregnant. You jumped anyways. Gravity is swift, hard, and does not care.
     
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    Again, its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death
     
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    Sounds selfish.

    The reason the founders used the term "Pursuit of Happiness", is because unlike most some founders from southern states refused to abandon slavery and claim mankinds right to property.

    And the right to pursuit of orgasm entails responsibility, as all right come with responsibility. You are responsible for the consequences of your actions, good or bad. If some couple assembles a human life they are responsible for rearing the kid or otherwise seeing to the kids well-being. It's part of the Noble right to chase your orgasm.
     
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    That's a shortsighted way of looking at things. If she does not want to get pregnant, she does not have to engage in activity known to assemble a human life.

    It's like if you don't want to commit suicide- you do not have to slit your wrists. If you do slit your wrists anyway there will be consequences.
     
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    Sad but true.
     
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    LOL. SO WHAT! ALL humans are selfish or there wouldn't be humans



    So what? Are you saying no one has the right to pursuit of Happiness" ?


    AGAIN....who TF are YOU to determine what all consequences for everyone should be?

    HAHA, you don't get to :)

    Yes, an individual IS responsible for THEIR actions...YOU AREN'T
     
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    Nobody has the right to take another individual's life.

    All rights and responsibilities are based on the assumption that each individual owns their own body. However, in the case of pregnancy their are three parties involved, the mother, the father, and the fetus.

    The science is clear. If you want to believe that not all individuals posses Equal rights, then your beliefs go against the American principle of Equal Individual Rights.

    So why must you kill this kid? Is it because they are a burden? Grandpa is getting to be a burden to, maybe we can abort him- they are already doing this in Canada. Who else is a "burden" in your opinion...

    ...How about the homeless? Or perhaps the mentally ill? They are doing it in Canada.
     
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    Do you not have a Right to Life? Killing you would violate that Right to Life would it not?
     
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    She has every Right to make the decision of when she gets pregnant. She does not have a right to violate another human's Right to Life, just like anyone else doesn't.

    No one wants to take control of a womb. That is a hyperbolic partisan strawman talking point that is used denigrate the pro-life side.
     
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    Oh so we should just get rid of all laws then?
     

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