Supreme Court Ruling Deals Blow to Labor Unions

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So let's grt this straight, unions think can engage 0n property damage to employers during a strike and that federal law protects them. And Justice Jackson agreed? Bot claim that NOT being able to do so infringes on their right to strike. Maybe employers should be able to clzim the right to destroy the propety of the unions and the members too?

    Supreme Court Ruling Deals Blow to Labor Unions

    WASHINGTON (Reuters)—The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday dealt another setback to organized labor by making it easier for employers to sue over strikes that cause property destruction in a ruling siding with a concrete business in Washington state that sued the union representing its truck drivers after a work stoppage.....

    ...A group of drivers went on strike while their mixing trucks were filled with concrete. Although the drivers kept their mixing drums rotating to delay the concrete from hardening and damaging the vehicles, the company was forced to discard the unused product at a financial loss.

    ...The Washington state Supreme Court in 2021 ruled that the company's claims were preempted by a statute called the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA), saying the company's loss of concrete was incidental to a strike that could be considered arguably protected under federal labor law.

    Conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who wrote the ruling, said the union's actions had not only destroyed the concrete but had also "posed a risk of foreseeable, aggravated and imminent harm to Glacier's trucks."

    "Because the union took affirmative steps to endanger Glacier's property rather than reasonable precautions to mitigate that risk, the NLRA does not arguably protect its conduct," Barrett wrote.

    Liberal Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, in a 27-page dissent, wrote that the ruling "is likely to cause considerable confusion among the lower courts" about how preemption under the National Labor Relations Act should apply in future cases and "risks erosion of the right to strike."....
    https://freebeacon.com/courts/supreme-court-deals-blow-to-unions/
     
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    Time for the fugitive labor act. Employers should hunt them down and whip them until they are willing to work. Remember, corporations have a right to your labor. They own you.
     
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    You're ok with union members being protected from destroying private property?
     
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    Unions are far far too powerful. Glad to see them being kept in check. Leftist violence is becoming far to normal.
     
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    Unions should wake up and realize that Biden imported six million cheap labor units who would gladly take the jobs of those people not wishing to be slaves.
     
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    You mean not working? Yes. They didn’t throw a Molotov. They withheld their labor.
     
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    So you’re saying they didn’t actually need the members labor to prevent damage to their profits?
     
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    By violence you mean…withholding labor? That’s violence now? Lol
     
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    They stop working knowing that doing so could cause millions of dollars in damage to property. They did it intentionally.
     
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    No, striking electrical workers shooting out transformers is violence. The Supreme Court protected those workers from liability.
     
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    So they don’t have a right to withhold their labor? Their employer owns them?
     
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    They didn’t need union members who coordinated a strike that caused a financial loss for the company. And like you, no one wants slave labor, we have enough pyramids in this world, we don’t need more. But there are 6 million people who would gladly do the work Americans won’t do.

    I know unions are important to you, but have you considered the management side of things? As a manger of unionized techs my responsibility included sticking to a budget, safety, productivity, training, vehicle and building maintenance (numerous buildings) handing labor issues and conflicts, FCC and PRC compliance, new product roll outs, net promoter scores, etc. all which was made more difficult and time consuming when handling the seemingly endless parade of complaints and grievances from the union. At one point my boss and Labor Relations department considered filing a complaint with the NLRB regarding how the union was using grievances as a form of harassment.
     
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    It's literally time for the Teamsters to change its Mafia spots.

    Ironically, I heard a rumor that Jimmy Hoffa wound up in the concrete that got poured into Giants Stadium...
     
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    For one, I disagree that this case was a blow to unions. However, what this union did was against the FLRA as it is intended. I think the ruling in and of itself may give cause to confusion in which the Supreme Court should have delved deeper into the issue of what constitutes adequate time for a company. But I do agree with the Court Ruling in general though.

    Unions can still strike. But when they strike they must follow the procedures within the Fair Labor Relations Act, as amended. This has obligations and responsibilities to both parties, both employers and unions. What this union did specifically is not what most unions do in general when they do strike and picket the employer. Take a look at the Airline Pilots Union, the Flight Attendants Union, or the Airline Mechanics Union as examples of what they can do.
     
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    What the MLB strike of 1994 was just wrong. After receiving their full year’s pay, the players went on strike in August, I believe, which then killed the playoffs. The only people who got screwed were the fans, teams, tv networks, advertisers, local businesses, and team and stadium employees.
     
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    Sure they have that right. They do not have the right to damage the company's property.

    I thought y'all said all rights have limits.
     
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    So at 11:30pm you’re admitted to the hospital and need surgery. At midnight, just as the surgeon is about to cut you open and save your life, the nurses go on strike. If you lived you’d be pissed, right?
     
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    What if they turned me away because I don’t have insurance? That’s ok right?
     
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    No, that would be illegal...lol
     
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    Much like Biden’s border policy, you’re not allowed to be turned away.
     
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    I've got no problem with unions or strikes or protests, but you cross the line when you purposefully damage property. That's where they went wrong.
     
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    Lived in Germany. American labor unions are extremely weak in comparison. Instead of giving all Americans, no matter their race ir background, a livable wage, your weak labor protections incite a “they take our jobs” mentality towards racial minorities and immigrants. Labor practices shouldn’t lead to racial resentment based on fears they work for less and can easier exploited. American trade deficits are something you should seriously reevaluate too. European countries export far more manufactured goods than America, have stronger labor unions, and have a higher standard of living; meanwhile, America is exporting raw goods importing foreign manufactured commodities. You should with fair and equal recognition of everybody’s worker rights.
     
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    That’s completely incorrect. Minorities have special privileges here, having their own groups within work forces to celebrate themselves that aren’t afforded to white people. Minorities are also given the benefit of the doubt when making claims of discrimination far more. You have fallen for misinformation. Racial resentment goes far more in the opposite direction, than towards minorities.
     
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    It was only damaged because they withheld their labor. This wasn’t a fire bombing.
     
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    Leaving something incomplete and allowing it to be destroyed to use as a bargaining chip is wrong. They are not entitled to continuing to work there anymore than the job is to their labor. They ****ed up, and are now paying the consequences.
     

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