It's not the worst thing in the world for Repubs to wave their arms in the air

Such as?
One will do.

 

I happen to enjoy living in CA. The weather is great, I love the beaches and twisty roads to ride my motorcycles. Life is good for people like me, who earn a good living. For those the Dems claim to care the most about, its a different story.

California ranks last in quality of life in new report

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ranks-last-quality-life-new-report/384853002/

 

Yeah you are right because right now, conservatives think Chick Fil A is woke and are wanting to boycott Chick Fil A. So that is going to occupy their minds and thoughts for a while.

 

US News and World Report obviously didn't ask for your opinion.

 

It's odd how you "get government out of my life" types apparently think government can or should fix all of society's ills.

At least that's what U.S. News & World Report's most-recent Best States rankings say. The Golden State ranked 50th in quality of life by fairing poorly in the natural and social environment categories.

The report, released Tuesday, ranks states based on a healthy environment and a sense of community. It takes into account each state's urban air quality, pollution and voter participation, among other measures.

 

Our opinions don't replace facts. There is no way to make an honest argument that abundant resources combined with high taxes and Dem control creates a thriving society. If it did, I would be a Democrat.

 

You are not qualified to speak for what I think. You can ask me and I will tell you.

If it were up to me, government would be reduced to a minimum. If my fellow Californians vote for bigger government, expecting the campaign promises to become reality, what is wrong with holding them accountable? They have abundant resources and society is worse off.

If abundant resources and high taxes created a thriving, healthy society, I can live with that. Results show the exact opposite. As a Democrat, you should be furious with your elected officials for letting you down. Results speak for themselves.

 

Ok, so you have a poll that says California is hell on earth and I have a poll that says California is the next best thing to heaven. You live there......and like it because (your words) " Life is good for people like me, who earn a good living."
People that earn a good living all say that about where they live.....or move. You statement about Democrats and those they are supposed to care about is a completly empty statement because 1) of the 2 parties, Democrats care more about them than Republicans. Republicans don't care about them at all and 2) Since you said both parties are equally bad, that leave no one to care about them....so what's your point?

 

I never said that both parties are equally bad. Dems are just a little worse.

My point: The vast majority of voters are gullible, uninformed, and uninterested in actual results. Ignoring results allows them to enjoy the false identity and feel good about caring for the (Insert political pawns here). In the case of poverty, Dem voters have good hearts and the best of intentions. These traits are exploited by politicians who turn their backs on the poor once they get their proboscises into the tax payers blood stream.

Results make is impossible to claim dems (Politicians) care about the less fortunate.

 

Oh right, an important correction. Not equal, Dems a litte worse......based on.........what, exactly? Schwarzenegger?

 

But that also means that Republicans are worse.......so what's your point?

 

i've watched as you have valiantly attempted to debate these folks, but you must understand by now that "the usual suspects" don't give a damn about facts. what they care about is the purely superficial and defending elected officials that "claim" to care about [insert selected victim group here] is what it takes to give them the warm fuzzies and make them feel superior. they will continually claim that the democratic party isn't perfect, but it's far better than the republicans simply because they defend a series of victims that the democrats feel are undeserving. more often than not, those that the republicans choose to defend are being victimized by those same democrats. but then, there is almost no one the democrats won't victimize if it fills their coffers and gains them power. shall we take a stroll down memory lane?

when i was much, much younger the democrats were primarily the party of poor whites. their power base was built by giving uneducated lower class whites a scapegoat to blame for their lack of success, the industrial giants and "them damn ni**ers". they championed segregation and fought tooth and nail against the civil rights movement that their political opposites were trying to build until it was obvious the tide could not be held back. black americans were going to be making great strides toward full integration into society, so they co-opted the movement and threw their erstwhile minions under the bus. they took credit for the groundwork that took years to build and left those poor whites without representation of any kind. victim group number one.

a quote often attributed to lbj says it all - "i'll have those ni**ers voting democrat for the next 200 years". well, he was a bit off the mark, but he really was just a redneck at heart and his only real talent was for self-promotion. it really took less than thirty years for those votes to start fading, but there is always another "victim class" to take advantage of. next up were hispanic immigrants, legal or not. it started innocently enough with farm workers, but soon it was a matter of opening up the border and allowing a flood of illegal immigrants to enter the country. this allowed them to play the role of "great savior" for millions of latino peasants, but they failed to advertise one particular aspect of this "generosity" they had forced on the nation. the vast majority of these newly minted "americans" were woefully uneducated and fit only for the lowest rungs of the employment ladder. after decades of being just barely educated and barely kept alive on the democrat plantation, these were the jobs that a majority of black americans were using to get their toe into the larger world of employment. once again they were throwing a group of erstwhile supporters under the bus. victim group number two.

next to be brought into the fold was america's gay communities. civil unions between gay couples were gaining in popularity, but it didn't take much to rile up that base with rhetoric like "separate but equal" to convince the more radical segments of gay society they were being treated as second class citizens, like black americans before them, and that they deserved to be included in the institution of marriage, the traditional domain of heterosexual couples that planned on creating a family. gay marriage was placed on the ballots and hopes were high, but there were more important things to take care of first. support for democrats was beginning to flag in the wake of declining employment and a total failure of democratic policies to do more than pay lip service to black equality. they had pushed through with gerrymandering to place black faces in high places, but these stooges were accomplishing nothing more than enriching themselves. it was time to take it up a notch and place a pliable black face in the white house. dashing the hopes of an aging hillary, someone who actually had some sort of usable experience, they went ahead with an all out blitz to gain the black vote, knowing full well that the majority of black american society was vehemently against the gay agenda. they put their mindless black face in the white house and dashed the hopes for gay marriage that they had previously inflamed, throwing gay americans under the bus to await the democrats' pleasure. victim group number three and number four, women, if you count the fact that hillary would have been a better choice than a freshman senator who voted present more than actually engaging in the process.

most of the next decade was more about tearing down than trying to build anything. gay americans did eventually earn the dubious honor of being allowed to marry, showing us that gay couples were even more dysfunctional than straight couples. the advances we had made in racial harmony were pretty much wiped out by a bitter first couple who managed to leave the white house a hundred times richer than when they entered. along the way bambam managed to become only the third sitting president to be awarded the nobel peace prize and the first to have done so without having accomplished anything. along the way both american history and america's role on the global stage took one hell of a beating, as our president and his band of merry pranksters defamed the heroes of the past for being fallible men and went on apology tour after apology tour to try and make up for all the wrongs we had done in our vain attempts to defend democracy and defeat some of the greatest tyrants of the last two centuries. for the first time in nearly a century the american middle-class began a sustained shrinkage that continues to this day. perhaps this places the american middle-class in the unenviable position of being victim group number five. at the end of this period is perhaps the most egregious example of group victimization. during her ill fated candidacy of 2016, hillary was roundly cheered for declaring that a full half of this country should be hated by the other half (i believe what she called them was a "basket of deplorables"), setting the stage for the ultra-partisan dysfunction we currently see. wow, around 150 million people placed in one group and stigmatized into being victim group number six.

i think i'll stop here. i know i've missed a few along the way. things like the unending war on children that has given us a million abortions a year and countless high school graduates who can't read or write, but the timeline for those gets a bit hazy. i don't want to go further because the list of crimes during the trump years is nearly endless. perjury, defamation, obstruction, fraud... i'm sure a thorough accounting would add things like sedition and a few other choice political crimes to the list. simply take everything the political establishment has accused trump of and double it, that would give you a close approximation of the charges that could be laid against the criminal organization that the usual suspects here continually defend.

 

The 50s.

 

Hilarious!!
Almost devoid of facts. Brilliant!!

The Republicans defend victims of the Democrats? When? Where?

Yes, the rural south.
Hey! You got someting right!!

Um.....no. Yes, the southern Democrats fought against the civil rights movements......just as southern Republicans did. Thats the actual fact. Republican (the "political opposites" you mentioned) did nothing to build the civil rights movement. So that a big fallacy on your part but just the tip of you revisionist view.

They made strides, not great strides, with the Republicans fighting tooth and nail to hold them back. Fact. Democrats didn't throw them under the bus. If the did why did blacks turn to the Democrats as their party?

Wait...........poor whites laid the groundwork for civil rights? Or are you saying the poor racist southern whites were left without representation because the blacks turned to the Democrat party so that's why poor racist southern whites turned to the racist Republican party of today, because THAT makes sense.

Poor racist southern whites were victim group number one or Democrat blacks that were thrown under the bus are victim number one. Be specific please

But he did get the Civil Rights Bill passed and was so self-promoting that he refused to run again. Sure, makes sense. Oh wait, Vietnam......a Republican debacle.

No, that didn't happen

Ok, so thirty years later puts us into the 1990's so you must be blaming Clinton, somehow, for "opening the borders". Couldn't have been Bush before him or Bush after him........right? Hard to tell with your description of history.

What's your point here? They took jobs away from the poor racist Republicans?

Oh! That's who they were taking jobs away from? Right, right...the "democrat plantation". Utter, complete nonsense but please remind us of all the hard groundwork the Republicans had rebuilt (that you mentioned earlier) to help blacks. Wait........there never was any. Republicans (the "business party") saw the use of off shore labor.

Now the above is actually a mess of convoluted logic that makes little to zero sense.
The gay movement gained popularity with the help of Democrats and was fought desperately by Republicans. "Separate but equal" was a legal term for blacks but has evolved by necessity to include the gay community so that, yes, they could be married.
"declining employment and a total failure of democratic policies" ? When? What are you even talking about? How does that false fact dovetail with the gay movement? It doesn't.

Both parties gerrymander and if elected blacks enriched themselves then you sure as hell can bet they learned it from their white counterparts.....another failure on your part in your bizzare narrative.

Your displeasure of blacks is bleeding through pretty clearly now but a few corrections. Obama was hardly "mindless" as history has proven and gay marriage became legal in all fifty states while he was in office. Another spectaculay fail on your part.

I voted for Hillary but I want to thank you for also proving that she was a far, far better choice than the clown car train wreck that followed Obama.

Wait......what?

You seem to have left out mentioning these "advances". You HAVE mentioned blacks and gays in less than nice terms.

Really? Do enlighten us on some specifics on how this happened. You won't because you can't.

We never were "defend democracy". We had to finish what daddy didn't for some reason......any reason. WMD's or whatever.

Right, it's Hillary's fault.
Do you actually believe what you are writing? Sad if you do. Betting big Fox/Hannity/Carlson/Rush listener.

Please do

Trust me, you've missed A LOT along the way

Stop, just stop

Timelines haven't bothered you so far and if you think high school graduates are bad now, wait if the right wing school boards get a chance to show what they can do!!!

 

Based on what is taken from workers and what society receives in return.

 

Not based on actual results. California is an example of what to expect. In spite of abundant resources, high taxes, and dem control, CA still leads the nation on poverty. I would embarrassed to have a D or an R by my name.

 

Has anyone tried?

 

You've confirmed my observation about you from reading previous posts.

 

Yes.

It is not possible to have made such an observation. Please quote me saying I want government to fix all of societies ills.

 

That statement doesn't mean anything.
"taken from workers"......what does that even mean?

 

Results that I have asked for and you have again failed to provide.
You throw out these phrases with nothing to back them up which makes them meaningless. Anyone can do that.

 

Dems are more aggressive with taxes.

Of course. In spite of dems controlling abundant resources,

California leads the nation in poverty:
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...alifornia-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

 

Compared to Republicans that would get rid of them completely, yes they are

Yeah, this is your favorite "go to" points. The trouble with it is that there are certain "conditions" that have to be thrown in to make it true AND your source is from 5 yrs. ago.
Your point also has nothing to do with political parties so why point out Democrats....unless you have "proof" of Republican control being better.
You won't because you can't.

 

I think you are referring to republican politicians. If so then I agree. If you mean conservatives in general then your statement is false.

 

Example?