Is Robert F Kennedy a Threat to Biden?

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  1. Zorro

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    Is Robert F Kennedy a Threat to Biden?

    'Support for JFK’s nephew as a presidential candidate reveals the demand among Democrats for an alternative.'

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    When Democrats Loved America, and Americans: JFK with RFK Jr.

    Robert Kennedy has higher favorability ratings than Biden or Trump, and is 'polling as high as 20 per cent in some surveys, Robert F Kennedy has become a “headache” for the president, according to the New York Times.'

    Kennedy was deeply troubled by 'the face of the US Covid response' and wrote a timely expose' of the fraud: The Real Anthony Fauci (2021), and sent 'a plea addressed to pro-lockdown Democrats, A Letter to Liberals (2022)' reminding them that the root of the word "Liberal" is "LIBERTY".

    For some 'Democratic or independent voter – centrists who keep their distance from mainstream currents of' leftist 'opinion – Kennedy’s presentation as a liberal defender of science against a corrupt corporate-state nexus has a definite appeal.'

    As well it should.

    'Many in this group had doubts about the rules handed down by public-health agencies during the pandemic but failed to voice them then.'

    Joe Rogan and Bill Maher's interviews of RFK explore these themes in their podcasts.

    'Kennedy was 14 when his father was assassinated in 1968. “Virtually left to his own devices” in the aftermath of the killing, according to his biographer, Kennedy became “troubled and rebellious”, and was expelled from school before attending Harvard. The attempt to set him up as inheritor of the Kennedy legacy of public service was interrupted in 1983 when RFK Jr was discovered suffering from an apparent overdose in an airplane toilet and charged with heroin possession.'

    He found his calling and salvation in Environmental Advocacy.

    'Admitted to the Bar in 1985, Kennedy encountered Hudson River fishermen during his court-ordered community-service work.'

    RESTORING AMERICA BY WORKING TO ELIMINATE MERCURY FROM OUR WATERWAYS

    'On his Rogan appearance, Kennedy explained the motives of his interest in suing coal plants for contributing to mercury pollution in waterways, rendering fish unsafe to eat. “It struck me then that we were living in a science-fiction nightmare,” Kennedy said. “My children and the children of every other American could now no longer engage in the seminal, primal activity of American youth that I had grown up with, of your parents taking you to the local fishing hole.”

    'Kennedy’s interest in protecting American rivers was' wrapped in 'a desire to protect the sanctity of American childhood, under threat of industrial desecration.'

    Then he found that Mercury was the preservative in child vaccines and that as childhood vaccines multiplied, that the mercury load on these young bodies greatly increased. His advocacy resulted in mercury being removed from most vaccines in preference for a less lethal preservative.

    'The abuse of corporate power by the US pharmaceutical industry is no fantasy. Biting criticism of Anthony Fauci and the US Covid response has been made, including by some in good standing on the left.'

    Robert F Kennedy represents an opportunity for the Democrat Party to refall in love with The American People, and to return to laboring diligently in their service.
     
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    Short answer, no.
     
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    Not nearly as much as a banana peel
     
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    Nice!
     
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    JFK Jr. is a whack a doddle quack.
     
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    Double post
     
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    If Kennedy were to be a threat, he would have surged in popularity by now. If Biden falters, it won’t be Kennedy who will pick up the pieces.

    Biden’s biggest problems are his age and his mental abilities.

    Scandals could also be a problem. Democrats can scoff all they want, but if the news media had been like Woodward and Bernstein were with Nixon, Biden would be toast. The payments to Biden family members from foreign governments does not pass the smell tests. If the evidence on the laptop had exonerated Biden, the FBI would not have sat on it for years.

    Democrats don’t care about corruption because ignoring evidence keeps them in power, but independent voters should care.
     
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    No threat. RCP averages has RFK Jr. at 14.7% for the Democratic nomination.


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-8171.html


    I read awhile back the DNC announced there would be no debates during the primaries. However, the democrats are divided on Biden running again. Question 21, 42 yes, 38% no.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/01qmicwezl/econTabReport.pdf


    However, most democrats have accepted Biden as their nominee although it does seem many want a younger, fresher face and not old Joe. But as a sitting president who has announced he’s seeking reelection, most democrats know that challenging him, I mean with a legit challenger that history hasn’t been kind. Truman was challenged by Estes Kefauver in 1952, Truman withdrew, Eisenhower won. 1968 LBJ was challenged by McCarthy, LBJ withdrew, Nixon won. 1976 Ford was challenged by Reagan, Ford survived, then lost to Carter. 1980 Carter was challenged by Ted Kennedy, Carter survived, Reagan won, 1992, G.H.W. Bush was challenged by Buchanan, Bush survived, Bill Clinton won.


    The democrats know this history. They’ll do everything possible to support Biden even when they view him as a weak candidate for 2024. They’ll make it as hard as they can to prevent a legit or recognized, high profile name from challenging him. RJK Jr. okay, no biggie, Williamson, fine, no one knows who she is. No debates, cakewalk for Biden.
     
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    He could be. In our celebrity driven culture and mindless social media environment, he could sweep enough people onto his coattails.
    He would likely be a disappointment to both left and right if he won, and we don't really need another defective human being using the office of potus to soothe his personal demons.
    Biden, in his lucid moments, is a much more rational and sensible person than trump, Desantis or rfk, and a better public servant.
     
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    20 percent is basically nothing. Any single candidate would likely get at least that, from people Who just don’t like Biden or whoever the front runner was. Just a meaningless waste of time.
     
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    The biggest threat to Biden is, Biden himself. Now that we have seen him up-close and in action who in their right mind would vote for him? RFK brings to the political scene some common sense subjects that need discussion. But he loses me when he starts in on the "environment" and the "elimination of the middle class". That's a tired old horse by weak-kneed liberal politicians. You need to notice the important issues Trump and DeSantis are addressing.
     
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    No, but he will make the Democratic primary interesting. Currently, in the Democratic Primary, he is not even polling at 8% among likely Democratic Voters in some of the poll numbers at FiveThirtyEight while Biden has a commanding lead at 69% among likely Democratic Voters.
     
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    Left vs New Left

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    It depends on who is in charge. I'm in charge, do as I say. You're in charge, don't tell me what to do.
     
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    RFK jr. is genuine and is likely to continue rising in the polls, in the same way as Hillary who started at the top steadily went downward as people realizes she is a train wreck.

    The two party system is a challenge for RFK jr. because he can get votes, more votes I suspect, from Republican voters, who care about old values like honesty
    than from Democrat voters.
     
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    And that's why Republicans fear him. If he gets the Democrat nomination he'll sweep. He has very strong support from Republicans, not because he agrees with them, he doesn't, he's a liberal, but he listens to facts and reason, he tells the truth even when folks don't want to hear it, and he loves America.

    Dems Love Censorship So Much They Do It at Censorship Hearing

    It's also why Dems fear him.

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    Snaggle-tooth tries to prevent Robert Kennedy from addressing Congress.

    Some 'Democrats truly hate free speech — so much so, in fact, that they actually tried to censor people at a hearing on censorship.'

    'Wasserman Schultz’s attempt to shut down RFK, Jr. on a technicality lines up nicely with the blistering hostility her party has shown in recent years toward protected speech.'

    'As does delegate Stacey Plaskett’s (Virgin Islands) effort at the hearing’s start to slash Kennedy’s speaking time.'

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    'Plaskett earlier this year threatened journalist Matt Taibbi with jail over his own congressional testimony on . . . you guessed it, government efforts to censor Twitter. '

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    Threatens jail for free speech.
     
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    It depends on how much poll numbers matter at this stage in the game., If they do then I would probably say no.
    This makes me sad though, because I really like Vivek R and wish his poll numbers were higher.
     
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    Prolly not. RFK's kind of 'Democrat' is too old school for todays 'govern me harder daddy!' authoritarian progressives. He's more of a threat to Republicans. I intend on voting for RFK over Trump, if RFK makes it to the general election, which is unlikely.
     
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    1. My priority is RFK jr, he knows so much about what needs to be done and how to do it, he's a safe choice
    2. then D.T., he did pretty well in 2017-21 despite COVID
    and also Tulsi Gabbard, maybe Marianne Williamson,
    3. anyone who is genuinely anti war

    no woke democrats, pedophiles, or others who want to destroy everything we are
     
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    Many would join you.
     
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    The hearing showed just how radical left some of the democrats are. I was glad to see RFK stand up to them. RFK running for president -- he has nothing to lose. Biden running for president -- he has much to lose. The democrat party, ruled by Biden, will attack anyone who challenges Biden. And most of the MSM will side with the democrat party. We always need brave people like RFK to challenge the establishment. Still my vote goes to DeSantis.
     
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    Actually, I think is more of a threat to Trump than Biden. Why? Because he will get back all the populist democrats that switched to Trump when Bernie lost.
     
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    The trouble with your cartoon is that that was the old HARD LEFT, not the moderate left of that era. i know, I was a hippie. I swung to the moderate right during Reagan (actually, I was bamboozled by the libertarians) , but swung back after iran/contra.

    In short, it's comparing the old hard left with the modern moderate left. Not an apples to apples comparison, See, today's hard left (the populist left) is right there with RFKjr, embracing all those lefty/hippie values.
     
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    If that's true, I wish you had more power in your party.
     
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