Nearly 50K Russian men have died in Ukraine war, nearly 9x larger than Russia's official figure: new

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  1. Jack Hays

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    As has been pointed out elsewhere, Ukrainians have retaken in a few weeks all the ground the Russians took in six months.
     
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    And with how many casualties?

    And according to these maps, your claim is dubious.

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    It isn't false that Ukraine has started to rely on conscription.
     
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    ISW estimates a Russian-Ukrainian casualty ratio of 3:1 since the war began. Ukraine's increasingly sophisticated arsenal and declining Russian troop quality likely suggest a negative trend for Russia in that ratio.
     
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    All Ukrainian males were declared obligated to military service from the outset of the war. There has been no opposition to recruitment; the only bottleneck has been training capacity.
     
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    There's no way the Ukrainians are seeing a 3:1 kill ratio.

    2.5:1, max. The KIA numbers don't support a 3:1 kill ratio.
     
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    Sure. That's why Russians generals are complaining, resigning and/or getting fired.
     
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    There you go again telling the truth to a pro Russian gentleman.
     
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    Or getting shot/blown up.
     
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    Not really on topic, but this seems to be the hottest Russia war thread out there.

    THIS could be an interesting pickle..... Putin's first trip outside of Russia as an international war criminal..... was bound to happen...

    SNIP
    Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to attend an economic summit in South Africa next month and the country is desperately trying to persuade him to stay away to avoid the legal and diplomatic fallout over his international arrest warrant, South Africa's deputy president said in an interview with a news website on Friday.

    As a signatory to the treaty establishing the International Criminal Court, South Africa is obliged to arrest Putin on an indictment the court issued against the Russian leader in March for war crimes involving the abduction of children from Ukraine.

    Ramaphosa will now attempt to convince Putin not to travel to South Africa when they meet at the Russia-Africa summit in St. Petersburg at the end of this month, Mashatile said.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-wants-attend-august-summit-165142582.html

    I imagine you'll never see such begging as the South African president will have to perform in St. Petersburg...

    But if not, the security in Johannesburg will have to be off-the-charts if Putin is to return home alive..
     
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    Heh heh.
     
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    See the whole Cheer Team gave you a backslap for this ridiculous post consting of nothing but stomping feet and crying "All False" .. followed by personal invective .. no addressing the topic .. . no indication of what you are claiming is false .. never mind the WHY..

    but that is no surprise now is it Jack .. the lack of an argument..
     
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    Before using the ISW as gospel, might ought to see who runs it, who's on the board, and who's related to Victoria shitbag Nuland.


    P.S. didn't Russia run out of missiles a year ago? :bored:
     
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    Putin was granted Diplomatic Immunity .. why are you talking this silliness Wasn't the SA- Presidents fault the ICC has turned into a Kangaroo show .. and that be the only Org the SA President will have to grovel to .. He and Vlad on great Terms .. part of the BRICS -never went along with sanctions did SA .. working with the Russia and the others to come up with competitor to the USD.
     
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    Given how many they're still lobbing at Ukraine's cities, evidently not.
     
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    D, you finally got something right, congrats. See how that US propaganda lies to you?
     
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    I don't know what you're talking about. I never saw any "US propaganda" stating otherwise.
     
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    Pootie Poo will go to SA if he feels like it and regardless of the crap yahoo is pushing, SA isn't trying to talk him out of it. This will be yet another time the child-like politicians of the west stamp their feet and run to the cameras.
     
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    No Nation is going to be Arresting Vlad .. as would be a huge violation of protocol .. are we going to normalize nations to start kid-napping leaders of other nations -- which would extend down to anyone in the administration in practice .. Sure .. lets go down that road and see what comes . Biden yet to pay recompense for his act of international terrorism blowing the Nord .. and any of the Nations seizing Russian Assets .. or Oligarch Assets . There is a good fkn plan for global harmony . . Nations like China and Russia just start taking stuff on the high Seas .. Cargo Ships .. Oil Tankers .. All fair game with the stroke of a pen.

    The Old Order is breaking down and so we are starting to see some really stupid stuff .. stuff never dreamt of a few decades ago.
     
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    Lock him up!
     
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    The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model
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    RAND Corporation
    https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives


    We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of ...
     
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    If you had a link that showed that:

    A: Putin currently has diplomatic immunity
    and
    B: Diplomatic immunity supercedes an international arrest warrant

    You would have posted it...

    Also..... This -> ? <- is a question mark.... feel free to learn the usage comrade..
     
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