Whats your views on Trans woman as Ms Netherlands?

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    Oh booo ****ing hooo "the religious types" Ya. That's never going to change. But by and large society had accepted and mostly ignored the trans ****. It wasn't until you shoved men in women's spaces, came up with ridiculous pronouns and now are pushing this stuff hard in schools that this has become a problem.
     
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    The rainbow flag is in schools, so is litter boxes in the restrooms
     
  3. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So? Many did towards homosexuals too, but there has been PROGRESS, lots of it, however, putting men in women's only competition and sexually indoctrinating children is NOT progress.
    They were given an arm and took 2 legs and still want more.
    Many are perfectly willing to play along with their delusion, including me, but now there is some serious OVERREACH
     
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Trump a hypocrite? I'm shocked out of my shoes. :lol:
     
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  5. dairyair

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    What difference does it make.
    Pageants or sports?
    Let each governing body determine the criteria for what they allow to compete.
    They've been doing that determination since the dawn of women's sports.
     
  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Why would or should everyone do what you did?
    Most are not consumed by trivial matters.
    And to the younger generations, it's all normal everyday stuff to them.
    It's mostly old people that can not adapt well to change.
     
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    Oh booo ****ing hoo.
    Trans people are real people. The world is not a binary world.
    It is those who want to continuously keep people hiding in closets so they can feel superior are the problem in the world.
     
  8. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People that identify as cats are also REAL PEOPLE but should we go putting litter boxes in every bathroom? Nobody cares if they crap in a litter box in their own home. Your argument fails. Why not just have a TRANS pageant? They are people too right? so why don't they deserve their own things instead of infringing on things that belong to women?
     
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    What difference is there?

    A biological man has advantages over a biological woman in regards to strength, speed, bone structure etc., which creates an undeniably unfair advantage in an athletic competition. This is why you only see biological men competing with biological women in various sports, and not the other way around. When you go the other way around, the biological female would almost never even make the team amongst biological males.

    That same biological man does not have an unfair advantage in regards to beauty, singing talent, and answering questions which are hte hallmarks of a beauty pageant.

    The fact that this even needs to be said is shocking. I find it hard to fathom that you do not grasp this obvious concept.
     
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  10. LangleyMan

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    Homosexuals are accepted now despite religious types throwing an "Adam loves Steve" fit.
    You're repeating far right lies about schools. :(
    "They?" Homosexuality <> trans.
    Overreach where? Schools? They aren't promoting trans.
     
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  11. LangleyMan

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    A great way to have students mocking the Bible. I taught high school for years and I know what students will do.
     
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  12. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are repeating left wing lies about that being a lie. SHAME! I've provided a multitude of real world scenarios EVEN CAUGHT ON VIDEO where this indoctrination happens. to deny it is pure cringe! Don't waste my time if you are gonna sling around a bunch of falsehoods. if you refuse to partake in FACTUAL discussion then keep me the hell out of it!
     
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    I found your posts riddled with naivety.

    For a start, I said majority. Please could you read better.
     
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  14. LangleyMan

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    Are you okay? :weed: :weed:
    Yes, and when they get over the whining from older conservatives types, trans won't be a problem, either.
    I did this? Hohhhhh-Kayyyyyy. :roll: :roll:
    Now, you're bearing false witness against public school teachers.

    Egads. Can't you stop?
     
  15. LangleyMan

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    There are 10,000 schools districts, 100,000 schools and 4,000,000,000 school teachers. It's the good and bad of local government that we sometimes see, but the stuff you folks are putting out--school teachers are grooming students and telling white kids they should be ashamed of being white--is nonsense. One-offs examples don't cut it.
     
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    Yes, and blacks want reparations. Some stuff is destined not to happen, either straight away or by corrective measures. It's fundamentally unfair to women athletes to have trans competing in women's sporting events. I'm taking all bets on this not standing in the end.

    I'm also taking bets that reparations won't happen, either.
     
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    Because of mentally ill adults trying to convince kids who used to just play dress up as a phase that they are now trans. Trans is one in a thousand until the left gets involved.
     
  18. dairyair

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    Maybe someday they will.
    But that doesn't exist at this time.
    So, it's up to the competition committees on who qualifies to be able to compete. If one is not competing or on the committee, then one really has no say on the topic.
     
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    In some cases yes, in some cases no.
    Biological females with high natural testosterone levels also have advantages over females with less natural testosterone.
    The competition committees set some rules based on testosterone levels.

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    Mokgadi Caster Semenya OIB (born 7 January 1991) is a South African middle-distance runner and winner of two Olympic gold medals[4] and three World Championships in the women's 800 metres. She first won gold at the World Championships in 2009 and went on to win at the 2016 Olympics and the 2017 World Championships, where she also won a bronze medal in the 1500 metres. After the doping disqualification of Mariya Savinova, she was also awarded gold medals for the 2011 World Championships and the 2012 Olympics.[5][6][7]

    Semenya is an intersex woman,[8] with 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency,[9] assigned female at birth,[10] with XY chromosomes and natural heterogametic testosterone level.[11][12][13][14] Following her victory at the 2009 World Championships, she was made to undergo sex testing, and cleared to return to competition the following year.[15][16]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya
     
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    Nothing above refutes my statement even slightly.


    A biological man has advantages over a biological woman in regards to strength, speed, bone structure etc., which creates an undeniably unfair advantage in an athletic competition. This is why you only see biological men competing with biological women in various sports, and not the other way around. When you go the other way around, the biological female would almost never even make the team amongst biological males.
     
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    It wasn't to refute your post, it was in addition to your post.
    There's no cut and dried definition.

    Humans are not binary. The living world is NOT binary.
     
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    Thats an interesting way for you to explain away responding with a non sequitur and/or strawman. With that logic, we can literally say that with anything, "the world is not binary". Yeesh.

    Expecting a response to be to what was actually said is not unreasonable, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with binary or non binary. It is only related to wanting a conversation to have a logical flow.

    Women that are naturally "man-like" always have posed an extremely rare, but decided problem for women's athletics. I dont think that is a point that means that we should allow regular biological men to compete against biological women if that is your implication.
     
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    You and I are not part of competition committees. We don't decide anything.
    No biological men are competing.
    And the trans people competing have met the requirements.
     
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