Russia is jamming 'sophisticated' US weapons being used in Ukraine, making them useless, report says

https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...ssiles-used-ukraine-gps-useless-report-2023-8

Mass bombing of civilian population centers is a classic NATO tactic. It's called "shock and awe."
"Shock and awe" - why it doesn't work.
If you think that the stupid strategy that the Ukrainians are doing now is their own stupid strategy, you are deeply mistaken.
Both on the front, where the Ukrofuehrer is driving his Ukro herd to slaughter, and in the years-long shelling of Donbass, and in the current stupid drone attacks on Crimea or Moscow - it's all 100% American developments.
The essence of this doctrine, "Shock and Awe" - Bomb and kill civilians until they are horrified and surrender. That is pure terror and war crimes before humanity.
But in reality, it never works.
It did not work against Japan - the emperor was not going to surrender after two nuclear explosions, and signed the surrender only after the Kwantung Army was destroyed by the Soviets.
It didn't work against Vietnam - the Americans killed 6.5-7 million civilians, but still lost and shamefully fled.
It didn't work against Afghanistan - the Taliban hid in mountain caves and then drove the Yanks into them fortified forts, from where they were afraid to stick their heads out.
It didn't work against Donbass for 8 years either. Because killing old people, wives and children only causes bitterness and desire for revenge.

That is why, by the way, among other things, Russia does not bomb residential neighborhoods. Because Russians understand human psychology, while Americans do not. No one will take revenge for someone killed on the battlefield, because everything is fair - he took a weapon and died. This is so in any basic human culture.

And now the degenerates in Washington are trying to use their terrorist tactics against Russia with a tenacity that deserves better application.
These morons at least studied a little history for a change. They would have learned a lot of new things. For example, that Russians have always responded to terror with popular mobilization - partisan struggle against invaders and mass volunteerism ("black hundreds" as a particular example).
So far, nothing has happened yet. The Russians have not even started.
Russians take a long time to harness, but go fast, as Bismarck said.
After every terrorist attack on Russian territory, the Russians not only destroy critical infrastructure in Ukraine, but also bury another secret command center. After that, in Western countries, supposedly, "planes/helicopters with high-ranking military personnel on board suddenly crash en masse".
That Ukrainians are incapable of learning, that their Western masters.....
To secure Belgorod, Ukraine must lose Kharkiv.
To secure the Crimean bridge, Ukraine must be left without access to the sea.
To secure Moscow from drones, Ukraine must lose Chernihiv and Sumy.
This is what Putin will easily explain to his many partners in Asia, Africa and Latin America (no one cares about dying Europe for a long time).
Keep going, you little degenerates, keep going! And "offensive" and terrorist attacks - because some people in Russia still think that we should leave a few western regions to Ukraine.
We need to convince them that there should be no "ukraine" left. At all.
To the last "Ukrainian"!

 

that is why you need multiple tools in the tool shed during war

Ukraine is shouting Red Dawn - Wolverines!

https://theconversation.com/when-wa...984-movie-inspiring-ukrainian-fighters-181261

 

the Goal of Ukraine is not to win, but to be such a pain for Russia to take and keep Ukraine that they give up and say it's not worth it

 

What's your comment about?

 

You're writing nonsense.
Russia has increased its territory by five new regions. And the inhabitants of these regions (which became part of Russia) even more patriotic towards the Russian government than the inhabitants of the classical regions. If, conditionally speaking, in old Russia, the level of support for Putin, for example, is about 80%, then in the new Russian regions the level of support for Putin is about 90% of the population.
This is how Russian columns are welcomed in cities liberated from Ukrainian fascists.


This is Mariupol today. As part of Russia.

 

2 cents

probably only makes sense to those that have seen Red Dawn though, if you have not, can skip over it

 

Great movie! THE ORIGINAL one of course

 

huh...was there a re-make...??

 

Yeah in 2012 with the guy who plays Thor. It wasn't bad but IMO lacks the awesomeness of the original. I'm also slightly biased when it comes to 80s stuff though. Don't let me stop you from watching it.

 

It seems the consensus that Russia's electronic systems, offensive and defensive, are superior to NATO's.

In 2014 incident in the Black Sea with the USS Donald Cook and 1 or 2 Russian fighters was quite funny. The much-vaunted Aegis system was instantly defeated by the Russians, and that was almost 10 years ago.

 

Sounds like NATO has been defeated, and all that is left is mop up.

 

This is what happens when you put money into the military instead of into CRT and tax payer funded sex changes, you end up with great weapons and defense systems!

 

Russia's Largest Port Comes Under Fire || Peter Zeihan

 

...I think I'll give it a miss...like you I liked the original and really don't need to see a rehash of it....yeah 80s were good days....life was a lot simpler then

 

what a load of total bollocks....if that was the case then why can't Russia produce anything by themselves without the critical components being of overseas technology...jeezuz they can't even make toasters without overseas parts....anyway....I'm sure bloody Iranians will traffic parts for them though...

 

A total "non sequitur" on your part Scotty .. just because some of the components are not manufactured in Russia (pretty much true of every product these days) doesn't mean the tech those components are going into is not better.

A total fail on that account .. the reality is that Russian air defense has been amazing .. it is why - back in the day when Ukraine had air defense .. that Ukraine had Air Defense . Now that all their Russian Stuff is gone .. Ukraine don't have as good air defense no more.

Russian Electronic Warfare has been supurb --- taking out Ukrainian drones .. giving Russia air superiority in that respect .. also against missiles such as Storm shadow

I am not going to go as far to say "Consensus" simply because I have not done the survey .. What I will say is that what Russia has demonstrated in combat has been very impressive ..especially against newer drone technology -- shutting down the Aegis was cool as well.

Now as for comparison what can be said for certain is that Scotty has shown no idea as to the level of US technology - given no arguments in its favor, nor evidence of success .. and basis for claim that is better than Russia was fallacious.

 

Hiya mate! I saw a message that an "ignored" member responded to your post....I though to myself I wonder who that could be....I wasn't going to bother replying but hey it's quiet in the office at the moment...summer hols and most people are out at the moment....
So you've pretty much answered your own question...."pretty much true of every product these days"....which is the point really isn't it...if you're a sanctioned nation without ready access to technology then all the pretty kit is just junk....Su-57 for example or the T-14 and so on....which were pretty much junk anyway but that's another issue only solved by massive reforms. Problem you've got is that international trade and resilient supply chains makes R&D, manufacturing and the technology integration that bit easier. Take the Su-57 as an example it's basically a re-packaged Flanker E with some facets added to make it look sexy but not much else. The radar sucks which is an issue as it's the key to the whole multi-sensor arrays behind the concept (can't get the chips); cockpit systems and...well...the cockpit itself is just lacking in terms of western design - for example the MFDs are not really any good which you can see by just looking at them!! And a centre stick with rod control...seriouslyl!!!??? And then you can look at the engines and engine management systems....especially the FADEC which is a disaster. I mean it's great nicking the concepts of these aircraft from the west but then everything goes to crap in the engineering and the integration...especially when you can't get your hands on the chipsets. So, yes you've really answered your own point that without western technology Russia hasn't really the capability to compete....they can't.....all they do re-package old stuff and make it look stronk. I don't blame you for getting all flustered and gobby when it doesn't work..I mean...in the end you're only saying what the troll farms tell you to say....and then all re-fueled with fresh bollocks you just blunder around social media trying to tell everyone Russian stuff is the next best thing to the BS Galactica.

So as to your non-seccywhatsits...d'ya know what....I don't give a rats crusty arse to be honest.....so back on ignore....cheers mate!

 

You have me on Ignore ? LOL -- Oh thats Wonderful .. but talking to me anyway .. even though don't give a "rats crusty Arse" I hope it wasn't my Kilt Jokes Scotty .. nevr meant any offense

The Russian High tech delivered .. that much we can say .. not sure we can say as much for the US .. simply on the basis that we did not get to try as much of it as we would have liked. Weapons we did trial performed reasonably well .. HIMARS are a nasty weapon indeed .. anti tank weapons did great as expected .. didn't see any Electronic Warfare on display so can't really comment .. and other aspects of US Military were not in the room .

 

Russia hasn't even been able to top Ukraines electronics systems, offensive and defensive. Maybe superior to North Korea, but they haven't come close to proving better than NATO yet.

 

It's true. Their equipment is regularly outclassed by NATO gear.

Ukraine needs a broader assortment and higher numbers, and then they should be set to mop up the invading force effectively. It's just such a shame that they were given so little before this full-scale invasion began and they have to be trained and equipped on the fly.

 

Yes, while we were bickering about what to send Zelensky, Putin sent Lukashenko nukes. That's a statement of commitment. I'm unaware of any other time in history in which Russia, or the USSR, gave a country nukes.

Are we going to give Zelensky nukes? No. Because we are nowhere near as committed to this conflict as Russia. Like I keep saying from day one, the path the Biden administration has chosen is making the world more dangerous. The fact that another nation (especially another one with a leader that is not really held to account by press or institutions) is a member of the nuclear weapons club does not make my family safer. And neither do all those shoulder fired missiles they sent to Ukraine, many of which, I predict, will be used against Americans and Europeans in the future (by the people we gave them to, after we abandon them like a fad, like Malala in Afghanistan).

This also shows that NATO had plans for Belarus, and the nukes and Wagner are a response to those plans...

 

and yet.....there is of course the total disconnect between what Putin says and what he does....just saying....

 

Ok, if someone pulls a gun, and then you say, "You don't have the guts," and then the person hands the gun to their henchman, uh, they probably aren't bluffing.

Also, one can build the pot to such a massive level, that there is no more bluffing...

 

and....?

 

They only stuff, other than two patriot batteries and some 155mm shells, sent to Ukraine is outdated stuff the U.S. had already passed out of active service in the 1990's. I am not sure anyone would call a computer from 1992 "sophisticated".

Well, maybe it is sophisticated to Russians as they can't even make that level of stuff