Nancy Pelosi withheld the guards for 71 minutes. She was directly responsible allowing the breach.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    An extremely interesting interview by the man right in the middle of the failed security of Jan. 6 that allowed the breach of the capitol that day...Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund...
    I ask the folks here to spend 30 minutes of your time to listen to this man and the things he witnessed that day.... The J6 select committee did not call this man to testify, and for good reason... He would have pinned the lack of security and the breach that day on Pelosi, McConnell and the Capitol Police.. The fact there was more than enough initial intel to warrant red flags but the intel was squelched, strange to say the least.. Sund had multiple calls with the people who would normally relay security concerns to him leading up to the 6th, but nothing was said..
    "I'm looking at my men and women getting their asses handed to them"... For 71 minutes Pelosi refused to bring in the guard, because of "optics". Seems the treasonous traitor Gen. Milley's name comes up...and he was communicating with Congress members, not Sund.. "They wanted it to be watered down"
    2 U.S. Code § 1970 requires Sund to "request" federal resources like the guard through the Capitol board...AND GET APPROVAL FROM CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS....Jan. 3rd, denied twice for optics and lack of intel ( which was being withheld)
    FF 11:55 Denied by Irving and Stinger who worked for Pelosi (No. 1 boss) and McConnell..... 2:09 I finally get approval for the National Guard..
    New Jersey State Police drove there before the DC guard could get from the capitol armory to the capitol.
    Watch it please and tell us what you think...
     
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    You could not pay me enough to spend 30 minutes listening to Tucker “I lie almost as much as Trump” Carlson.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Run it up the chain.... Pelosi was the chain...
     
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    You're not listening to Tucker, you're listening to Sund. 71 minutes and here we were told everyone was afraid for their lives and AOC needed therapy for he PTSD.
     
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    omni Well-Known Member

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    Timestamp where he says Pelosi withheld the guard, please.
     
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    **** that noise. Bull crap excuse. If I break into a store - is it the cops fault for not being there to stop me? MAGA simply refuse to take
    ANY responsibility for their actions. Pure unadulterated BS. Tired of these excuses. It's like parents who refuse to discipline their kids. Trump
    and the MAGA are spoiled children. Nothing more.

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    listen to it instead of me picking at it for you.. do your own timestamping...

    11:40 ish.... 13:35... 14:45....
    Run it up the chain.... Pelosi was the chain...
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ya know how to piss of a crowd of PEACEFUL protesters? the very actions of the Capitol police incited a peaceful crowd... when the Capitol Police beat a protester with their fists right in front of a peaceful assembly, throw in a few flashbangs into a crowd, pepper spray a few non violent people.... yea that tends to rile some folks...

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1421942908954062853
    https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/
    https://www.worldtribune.com/report...d-jan-6-crowd-by-firing-flash-bangs-tear-gas/
    https://rumble.com/vj4p3j-capitol-police-throw-flashbangs-on-peaceful-crowd-january-6-2021.html
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rats-media-dc-police-refuse-release-evidence/

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    While I don't doubt that Nancy Pelosi might have preffered the optics of Trump supporters storming the capitol to the optics of them getting tear gassed. I still have to say it's probably more on Trump for not telling the crowd to go home. Or just conceding the election he lost.

    Really, do all the legal challenges you want, but when you're begging your vice president to throw out an election based on what was at best a goofball legal theory. You are encouraging rampant goofballism.
     
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    Photo of MAGA mob being "allowed"" into the Capitol .... just WTF are you trying to argue? Are these MAGA 2 year olds with no self-control?
    It's pure BS to make excuses or try to blame others - MAGA breached the Capitol by force. No if, ands, or buts. No pathetic whiney excuses
    or "blame" to put on others. **** that noise.

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    You make a wise decision. It's a rehash of a pseudo-scandal that was debunked over 2 years ago by every single serious fact checker.... and even not-so-serious ones that aspired to being taken seriously. Because the call was THAT easy.

    All you need to know that something is a lie is "I watched this on Tucker Carlson"


    The Capitol Police Board (which is composed by the two Sergeants at Arms) requires approval from NOBODY. In fact, in this case either of the Sergeants at Arms can request assistance on their own.

    2 U.S. Code § 1970
    Assistance under this section shall be provided—
    ...

    (B)upon the written request of—
    (i)the Capitol Police Board; or
    (ii)in an emergency—
    (I)the Sergeant at Arms and Doorkeeper of the Senate in any matter relating to the Senate;
    (II)the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives in any matter relating to the House of Representatives; or
    (III)the Chief of the Capitol Police, if the Chief of the Capitol Police has determined that the provision of assistance is necessary to prevent the significant disruption of governmental function and public order within the United States Capitol Buildings and Grounds, as described in section 1961 1 of this title;
    ...​
     
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    No. NO MORE BS. No more of these pathetic excuses trying to blame others for their own actions. NO MORE pity party for these
    traitors. They tried to interfere with the Constitutionally mandated Electoral count by Congress. They deserve the jail they are getting.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    If this was the scene on Jan 6..... instead of Jan 7..... you would not have that picture, we would not be having this conversation, and Ashli Babbitt would be how home with her family right now.... with intel and the guard being authorized by Trump... The Capitol Police and Pelosi and her ilk allowed the security to be lacked and inadequate that day... it is their job to provide security for the Capitol... they failed...

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    He never said Pelosi denied the requests. Tucker tries and tries and tries to get him to say it, but he never does. He said the sergeant at arms would run it up the chain. Show me phone calls and what the response was when he got a hold of Pelosi and McConnell.
     
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    He definitely said Pelosi denied the request... no ifs or butts about it... don't even start to pick at something you are not going to at least listen to...maybe you can add an extra "timestamp" yourself .
     
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    Nope. He doesn't.

    Odd how McConnelk name is mentioned, but your focus is on Pelosi.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep... and he says it multiple time.... as you have not watched it and expect others to spoon feed it to you ... and not only Sund is saying Pelosi is the one running the show... there are others saying the exact same thing....... and all documented in black and white...

    Sund worked under Pelosi, not McConnell... again the obvious clue you did not watch it..
     
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    Sound says the request was also ran up the chain to McConnel? What was the result?

    You are only hearing what you want. He doesn't say Pelosi rejected the request.
     
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    Yes..... he sure did say Pelosi rejected the request... multiple times..11:40 ish.... 13:35... 14:45...... optics and lack of intel (which was being withheld by the intel community from Sund).... Pelosi's inactions have been questioned by many people.... all documented in black and white or on camera...... some, like the J6 select committee did not even look that way...


    Once again.... McConnell was the Congressional oversight of the Senate..... Sund worked under Pelosi in the House... Sund took orders down the chain from Pelosi..
     
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    Nope. He says he was denied by the sergeant at arms of the senate and house.

    You are not watching your video. Sund is the capitol police chief. He does not work under Pelosi.

    The house sergeant of arms reports to the house leader and the senate sergeant of arms reports to the senate leader.

    Which one is Sund? You are so eager to lay blame at the feet of Pelosi you cannot get basic facts straight.
     
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    Your claim up to you to verify
     
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    fake news, but nice try
     
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    Democrat leaders clearly wanted this to occur and to look as bad as possible.
     
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    You have GOT to be joking!!!
     
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    @omni....

    "He says he was denied by the sergeant at arms of the senate and house." "after he went "up the chain" is what he said... Please listen to the whole thing before commenting further...... multiple times..11:40 ish.... 13:35... 14:45......
    You are dismissed until further notice.
     

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