What is so attractive about Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton?

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  1. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus, your brain has got to be exhausted from all those gymnastics! How many presidents took a bunch of classified documents after they left office and then tried to keep them from NARA when they tried to retrieve them? And we're not talking about the odd document here or there that was returned when discovered. These were multiple boxes of documents, moved from place to place and kept unsecured in an attempt to hide them.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Conspiracy theories. All of it.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    No actual link to your conspiracy theory.
     
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    How anyone could defend trump, biden and Hillary is beyond me. I actually like most of Trumps policies, especially military non intervention and treating russia as just another country not in our orbit but not as an enemy. I dont know what has happened to the dems over the years they seem to beat the drums for conflict even more than the repubs do.
     
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    Agreed, Hillary is a POS of the highest degree, but she never asked for new electors or even for a recount.
     
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    Because her goal was not to end democracy.
     
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    They want to criminalize Trump protesting a stolen election.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what do Republicans find so attractive about Dirty Donald?
     
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    So, Al Gore was trying to end democracy?
     
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    The labor participation rate is what matters. It's intellectually dishonest to claim there are more people working than any time in history, since there are more people in the country than anytime in history. Are there more people working in 2023 than in 1963? Sure there are, but there are 2x more people in the country than there were in 1963. Kinda stupid to make that claim, when looking at the population difference. Huh?
     
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    Beats me. Is this a trick question?

    Hillary lost specifically because people didn't see anything attractive about her, and Biden won only because people wanted Trump out of the office.

    If you say so, but it is factually correct because we hit the all time high in July of 2023. I agree percentages matter, but the numbers matter as well, because the more people we have working, the more we produce.
     
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    Gore conceded when all legal options in the courts were exhausted. Hillary conceded. When did Trump concede?
     
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    Hillary is very competent.
     
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    So far the answer is Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden are not Trump. That’s why Biden won in 2020. It’s a shame that we are stuck with Biden and Trump. Both are seriously flawed and too old. Neither of the party’s hard core members seem to be able muster enough primary votes to retire them, according to the polls so far.
     
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    So you prefer short sighted leadership that tries to be involved in things?
    In my experience of getting things done correctly, on time, and within budget has been from leadership that can properly delegate and let the people do their jobs. Sorta contradicts trumps methods of leadership. Trumps methods got him fired, but pleased his congregation...The United States are not a congregation.
     
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    You can just say "correct," dude. It's not that hard.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I agree with that. Doesn't mean they're lying when they make the statement, though.
     
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  18. JohnHamilton

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    If the Democrat reporters would cover the Biden family criminality, they might get rid of him and open clear path for a younger candidate. The Republican primary voters appear to be bent on political suicide with Trump.
     
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    The specific reference on the site was to lowered drug and gas prices from passage of the IRA.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are reporting on Hunter's criminality. There is nothing to report as far as Joe goes.

    Much of the evidence presented in Comer's third memo, Democrats noted, had already been made public. None of it showed the direct involvement of Joe Biden. And some $3.5 million of the $20 million in payouts claimed by Republicans did not involve the Bidens. While former associates of Hunter Biden, including former Burisma board member Devon Archer, claimed that the vice president's son regularly sought to peddle the illusion of access to prospective clients, he stopped short of claiming Joe Biden was ever a party to the deals they made.

    In public interviews and in closed-door testimony to the committee, Archer expressly denied allegations of any direct knowledge in the oil and gas giant's finances the former vice president may have had over the course of Archer and Biden's business relationship. Asked directly by congressional investigators whether Joe Biden had ever talked business at any of their dinners together, Archer was blunt. "It was dinner conversation," he said according to committee transcripts obtained by Newsweek.

    Democrats dismissed Comer's memo in the hours after its release, characterizing it as an "embarrassing attempt" to justify a baseless impeachment inquiry into a president they dislike.

    "Committee Republicans have once again released information on financial transactions that do not involve the President," House Oversight Committee ranking member Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, said in a statement provided to Newsweek. "Instead, they rehash the same Hunter Biden business dealings that Congressional Republicans identified at least three years ago.

    https://www.newsweek.com/biden-bank-records-spark-two-strikingly-different-stories-1818687
     
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    They don't have 91 indicted criminal acts documented in front of 4 grand juries. Its something we Dems prefer in our nominees for high federal office. That's a lot of ham sandwiches to eat!
     
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    And you saying it was stolen is incorrect. He believed it was stolen.
     
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    trump possibly broke some laws during his protest to end democracy.
     
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    I don't think he believes it, just can't stand being a loser.
     

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