Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

I think this is the areas that the Palestinians want. Is that correct?

 

Nope, not a valid comparison. Ukraine is an independent nation with its own government, military and security concerns. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the US supplying weapons to the nation of Ukraine. It's certainly no worse than handing nuclear weapons over to Belarus, for instance, or Russia otherwise supplying them with weapons. By your absurd logic, Belarus's neighbors would be justified in invading Belarus over such nonsense.

Russian troll logic can be so droll.

 

That is very, very true. No Gaza, No Hamas.

 

What a mess. Why did anyone think that would work? It resembles the jumbled mess that is Armenia and Azerbaijan, and we've seen how well that has worked out.

 

It's a dumb ****ing map. Should have been a clear line down the middle with Jerusalem on neither side claimed as neutral territory.

 

No, Hamas's stated gaol is the extermination of all Jewish people. BTW the Arabs rejected that proposed map and invaded Israel only to lose badly because it turns out Arab dictatorships are militarilly incompetent. Also, the original Mandate of Palestine included 2hat is now Jordan so 90% of it was already given to the Arabs. At the time of that division the British, who legally administered the mandate, said everything west of the river Jordon was to be the Jewish homeland.

 

They have to twist themselves into knots to try to justify their absurd takes.

 

Not the topic of this thread.

We are talking about hundreds of Jews being murdered over the weekend, and hundreds more kidnapped.

 

With great power comes great responsibility. You can get people killed that side with you, for in the end, nothing. We should have learned that in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Our power is encroaching upon Russia, and any rational person can see that Russia has legitimate security concerns over it, enough to justify armed action into Ukraine (not to say there was no other way, I'd like to think that if I were in Putin's shoes I would have figured out another way to address these concerns, but I don't know what).

Just like Bibi has been forced (I think, I don't trust any of these leaders since their deceit on Covid, so part of me wonders did you just stand down and allow your people to be blooded Bibi?) to act on legitimate security concerns.

 

More like massing to invade Gaza.

You like war, eh? The jihadist knuckle draggers in Hamas and Islamic Jihad are about to get thousands of Palestinians killed. Obviously, they don't care and you probably don't either. They're all just disposable collateral damage to parade before the cameras, and in the end all of them will have died for nothing.

Still laughing?

As for your "few rockets" BS:

QUOTE]In a recorded message, Hamas commander Mohammad Deif " claimed the outfit launched 5,000 rockets into Israel. Announcing the operation, Deif said, “We announce the start of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood and we announce that the first strike, which targeted enemy positions, airports, and military fortifications, exceeded 5,000 missiles and shells.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe... exceeded 5,000 missiles and shells.”[/QUOTE]

Get with the program - the simians in Hamas are beating their chests now.

 

We were not and still are not encroaching on precious Russia. You're parroting Kremlin propaganda that is used to justify a war of aggression against Ukraine by trying to blame us. Again, as a sovereign country separate from Russia, Ukraine has every right to receive arms from the US, same as every other country does. Poland has more US equipment than Ukraine does, yet it's not somehow an encroachment on Russia. Ditto the Baltic states, ditto Finland. You're just spinning excuses for an imperialist land-grab by Russia.

Your embrace of Covid conspiracy theories isn't helping your credibility, by the way.

 

Commenters in the media say it will be a bit more difficult than that. While Israel has overwhelming military superiority, rooting out Hamas in Gaza still means urban warfare in a very large, dense urban environment.

 

Nonsense.

The revanchist warmonger in the Kremlin had his eyes on Sevastopol and a land bridge from the Crimean peninsula to Russia long before he cobbled together the propaganda you're regurgitating.

 

If they could win, they would be justified in invading Belarus. It's enough provocation to warrant it. But they can't win (without investing so much that the outcome is certain to be WW3, and unpredictable). So it becomes reactionary and immoral to invade, even if justified.

And obviously, the Belarus nukes will be gone in exchange for our concessions.

 

Nobody is begging for mercy.

As a matter of fact I think Hamas just lost themselves the Gaza strip

 

Except he easily could have secured such land bridge a mere 8 years earlier when he took Crimea without a shot fired. If he wanted that, he wouldn't have watched Obama, Trump, and Biden pump them full of Stingers and Javelins for 8 years (not secretly mind you, but the weapons assistance was openly debated, for years, including here) before he did it.

 

I don't think an invasion of Belarus would be justified. You have some really strange notions of what justifies mass murder and what does not.

 

He didn't just want the land bridge. He wanted all of Ukraine, or at least as much of it as he could get. That doesn't mean his military was ready to accomplish that in 2014, however. In fact, it still wasn't ready when he launched the full-scale February invasion, but he seemed to think it was. We know that he was hoping that Ukraine's government and military would collapse and not put up the kind of resistance that they have so far.

 

I probably wouldn't either, but an argument could be made that it would be. I'm simply saying that even if that argument prevailed, I still would oppose the war for the reasons I stated.

When a nation tries to put you under their thumb, it justifies war. And that's what NATO tried to do to Russia. They wanted Sevastopol to have NATO warships docked there as the norm, and thus be in a position to cut Russia off at the time of their choosing. There was no way Russia was ever going to allow NATO to be in such an easy position to have massive impact on Russia's security and economy.

 

Just the part where you lot only read
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"-bla bla bla... thinking the west gave Jews the right over the indigenous population, and it's not.

The entire post 390 stands, that the Jews have no right beyond Israel to colonize Palestine. As well as the Jews have a problem that they violated previous treaties by ethnic cleansing 700,000 Arab civilians out of Israel as is a clear violation of the Balfour declaration.

 

No, NATO did not. NATO is already in the Black Sea anyway thanks to the Balkan members and Turkey. Russia doesn't even have anything to fear from NATO since NATO is a defensive alliance. It's not there to contain or encroach on Russia. It exists to protect its members from aggression and that's it.

 

The idea of Israel coexisting with Hamas is over, says former WH foreign policy advisor Dan Senor


Some interesting commentary here. It is going to be a hell of a test for Israel.

 

This whole thing is terrible for all sides and I hope it doesn't get any worse... I'm not clever enough to see the answer but I can see this whole thing turn into something truly bad for both sides sso wwwhat do you guys think of this comedy? is that wrong?