Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

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    What I don't ignore is the actual response.



    I'm sure every individual in that building was thinking "hahaha those Jews are begging us!" right up to the moment that Gaza got bombed to ****. And this is just the beginning of the "begging"
     
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    On Saturday, we saw Gazans dancing in the Streets while chanting 700 in order to brag to the world over successfully killing Jews. I'm glad Jews got to see the way these people feel about murdering them. Now Jews understand that there is no place for them in Judea.

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    I've always wondered a little bit if there isn't a serious load of s in Judaism's more-or-less fundamental assertion that it is the one true religion on Earth of the one true God on Earth and only by being born of a woman from the tribe can one attain status.

    However, the only folks closer to being atheists in my experience than actual professed atheists, are Catholics and Jews. I know a good number of the former, and my sample size of the later is probably insufficient to justify my opinion aside from knowing a bit about how many of the most famous of my favorite scientists that were Jewish seemed at best indifferent toward their membership of the tribe.

    So I don't give much thought to this sort of nonsense. Judaism consists of ancient history that no one in their right mind gives a s about, Christianity is so absurdly ascetic as to not even provide a path to caring for one's own family, and Islam, well, it's the youngest of them and the Saud's Wahhabist interpretation leaves me a bit less than impressed. I consider these three religions to be the "Desert Rat F" religions. Give me Buddhism or Hinduism any day all day over these three.

    I have so few close relationships that I know of almost no one who will substantially engage in any sort of passionate defense of their religion: it is a negligible encounter for me. And, if I find someone passionate about their religion, my instinct is to vacate the immediate area of their presence, post-haste.

    I view my position regarding Israel as directed toward a nation-state, irrespective of the religion claimed to be practiced by its people. That there exists this thing in our Western Anglo led cultures, convoluting respect for another's religion, with respect for the actions of a nation, I find absurd, disingenuous, and detrimental to Judaism, to put it mildly.

    Hezbollah has chosen a path this past weekend that in some ways proves the superiority of Christianity, the actual version, not the US version. By killing innocents for the actions of the state, they have invited further pain upon other innocents in Gaza that Israel has never shied from delivering.

    I find Israel's conduct to be absurd in association with Judaism and with the legacy of the Holocaust upon which Britain founded the entire idea and implementation. Palestinians are not German, are they? Germans were and are not Arabs, unless I'm missing something - educate me please, someone....

    Horrid bullshit fomented by the Big 3 DRF religions. They will be the source of eventual nuclear war.
     
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    It doesn't look like dancing in the streets at all. I also seriously doubt that the fence those people are standing -not dancing- behind is in Gaza.
    Your post is just nonsense

    Aha. A call for a genocide. Is this typical pro Jewish Israel?
     
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    I'm sure you're overwhelmed by the stories how Israeli's cry over their loved ones.
    You know what you do not get to see @Thingamabob
    The Arabs who got blown up in flats all over Gaza. Israel typical massacres far more civilians than the other way around.
    And the amount of personal stories from there are just minimal. Israel doesn't allow the press to see how much they kill.
    Israel refuses to cooperate with any kind of independent inquiry. They are simply butchers, with an undoubtingly fanatic racist bias,
    if I can believe the polls them Israeli make about themselves.


    For instance... Netanyahu very recently said that the civilians should leave Gaza.
    That same Netanyahu got Gaza boxed in with a fence, also along the Egyptian border is where they are patrolling, and the only way they can go is drown in the sea.
     
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    I dunno..."**** around and find out". Hamas wrote at a check that unfortunately the Palestinian people have to cash. If I were Palestinian I'd want to be as far away from ****ing Hamas as I could get.
     
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    It is about the most dense populated place on the planet. The idea to keep your distance gets to be a rather dumb idea.

    And Israel wrote out a check as well. I do believe -disregarding these last days- that they killed quiet a lot of people compared to other years why still going strong with their endless expanding colonies. These war crimes have been a main policy of Israel for half a century and done with the help of the west through violently oppressing a totally impoverished population of millions with no prospects that Israel with it's Jews want to stop that. And the way them Israeli's are at it, there won't be any kind of viable country for them to live in at all. And there is no excuse for that.
     
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    I've been seeing the unbelievable numbers coming into this country through Biden's closed border. These are people who will live together in neighborhoods and I believe those neighborhoods will be much like the ones they left behind in their home countries.
     
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    Socialist rally in Times Square praising Hamas terror attack draws widespread condemnation
    Speakers mocked slain civilians and called for the elimination of Israel
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    Alexander Nazaryan
    · Senior White House Correspondent
    Updated Mon, October 9, 2023 at 3:41 PM CDT

    At a pro-Hamas rally in the heart of New York City, speaker after speaker praised the slaughter of civilians that had taken place in Israel on Saturday, after the terrorist group overwhelmed Israeli defenses in an audacious, unexpected raid.

    “And as you might have seen, there was some sort of rave or desert party where they were having a great time, until the resistance came in electrified hang gliders and took at least several dozen hipsters,” one speaker joked about the Hamas assault on a desert rave, where horrific scenes of murder and rape took place.

    It was a bracing spectacle that countered the grief pouring in from most civic leaders, from Brooklyn to Berlin. But it was also evidence of a split within the Democratic Party, with many younger activists, forged in the Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter movements, viscerally identifying with the Palestinian cause. Israel’s founding story, as a quasi-socialist refugees for Holocaust survivors and other landless Jews, resonates less and less, especially as younger generations show little knowledge about the murder of 6 million Jews by the Nazis.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/socialist-ra...-draws-widespread-condemnation-204123785.html

    Morons.
     
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    What, like a ghetto? Ain't nothing new about those.
     
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    That's stupid. Israel has been living under seige for decades. Just about anything they do to alleviate that (especially when it works) I have no problem with.

    Soros, Hungarian. Kissinger, German. Blinken, American. Mayorkas, Cuban, though came to the United States as an infant.

    At this point...I am not sure I care.
     
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    Wrong.

    No, you're wrong. Residents of Puerto Rico (as well as other US territories) have no Presidential vote in the general election.

    He can't!

    He can't.

    Federal voting rights in Puerto Rico - Wikipedia
     
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    No, these people came here with expectations they would prosper here. They are going to live in large communities and won't even get to vote............yet.
     
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    Only because the Israelis have not been willing to do what they need to. That may have changed.

    It's much easier if you have no concerns about the body count...you simply obliterate anything that looks vaguely dangerous.
     
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    They want all of it.

    Only because nobody is willing to do it right the first time.

    Hopefully.

    They screwed up in 1967 and 73 and have been paying for it ever since.

    That's a lot more restrained than I was hoping for, but I agree.
     
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    Palestine started this waaaaaayyyyyyy back in the day and never agreed to the two state solution. If you really wanna get technical as to "who started it"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

    1948

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    See that? Immediately after the British ordered land ceased to be "Palestine"...the arabs came in and claimed it. And then!

    upload_2023-10-9_20-14-6.png

    So while after the two state was declared by the British empire after the fall of the Ottoman Empire...it was the Palestinians who said "no" Even though the State was originally declared "Israel" long before Islam was even a thing.

    So "**** around...find out"
     
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    Israel started nothing. Israel was ATTACKED in 1948, with the explicit intent to wipe out Israel.

    The only war crime is losing.

    As long as it is against Jews, they will defend ANYTHING.

    What a place for a daisy cutter...

    And Israel has been hesitant to do things right...and has been under siege for three generations as a result.
     
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    A good summary of the type of propaganda Russia is spreading on this topic. Hint: We have seen these lies used in this very thread.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/cS37emjPslA?si=zAG7nH6yRnzizQfv

    No white phosphorus hasn't been used and no it is not a war crime. Propaganda bots love to spread lies though. It is what they do.
     
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    A colleague of mine was from Gaza. He worked as a contractor for a company I worked with regularly. I saw him once or twice a month for a while. He won a "lottery" or something as he called it to come to America for work. He was nice and extremely jovial. One day, as he was sitting next to me, he got a call and began to cry. I asked what was wrong.

    He told me his brother was a paramedic and after a retaliatory Israeli strike he was unaccounted for. Hamas was using ambulances to attack Israelis, presumably because blown up ambulances garners them sympathy in the news. He was crying a lot so it was hard to make sense of everything, but it sounded like his brother may have been responding to these ambulance attacks and they weren't sure if he just lost communication or was struck by Israel.

    I tried to comfort him. After a couple minutes he said, "F--- Hamas." He had a thick accent and was upset so I wasn't entirely sure what he said. So I said, "what?" And he went on a rant about how Hamas always wants to fight, cause problems, and there's never any peace. It's been about 12 years I think since this conversation and I remember it very clearly because I remember being surprised that he never once complained about Israel despite assuming they may have killed his brother. Unfortunately, I never saw him again after than day so I don't know how the story ends.

    I say this only to say there are a lot of good people in Gaza. There's also people who oppose Hamas and want peace. It's unfortunate they, collectively, keep Hamas in power and this nonsense continues. There are a lot to people in Gaza who don't want Hamas firing rockets from the roofs of their hospitals and schools, or using ambulances to attack people. Hamas does these things knowing they are exchanging Israeli lives for Palestinian lives and as long as they get to kill Jews, they're happy with the exchange.
     
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    Ya I get that there are good people trapped in Gaza that are now going to pay the ultimate price because they lost the lottery draw in where they were born.

    I hope for those people that Israel takes control and never gives it back this time. The people there will be better off. How the **** did Palestine think it was a good idea to vote them into power to begin with?
     
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    Sixty percent of Palestinians voted for Hamas to be their government. Since taking over, that support for Hamas among Palestinians has risen to eighty percent. Excusers of this recent atrocity suggest it is due to their being kept under Israel's boot. Clearly they were able to do this because they are not under Israel's boot.
     
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    And for that, Allah will open the gates of Hell on Gaza and Hamas.
    Inshallahh
     
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    They get voted in by catering to two primary demographics:

    1. Those who want to kill Jews and were upset with Fatah for peace talks.
    2. The poor, which there are many. They have a lot of outside funding and they spend money on social services to help the needy which garners support. The government can only do so much with the taxes and whatnot that it receives. Hamas gets Iranian funding and they're probably about to get a lot more now that Biden is releasing $6 billion to Iran.

    So not only did Biden arm Hamas through abandoning military equipment in Afghanistan that made its way to them, he's now funding them during this war. It makes you wonder if Biden didn't have dementia if he would have been so foolish to just go along with the radical morons his handlers have chosen to run his administration.
     
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    1 hr ago
    Militants threw grenades into bomb shelters and shot into passing cars near festival site, new videos show

    From CNN's Paul P. Murphy

    Warning: This post contains graphic descriptions of violence.

    Dash camera videos obtained by CNN appear to show what happened when Hamas militants arrived near the site of a music festival where more than 260 people were killed over the weekend.

    At about 7:39 a.m. local time on Saturday, according to the car's dash camera, an unknown driver was traveling northward on a highway just outside of Re'im, Israel, near the Nova Festival grounds. An armed man standing in the street starts shooting at the car.

    The video, which has no audio, shows the car as it continues to slowly move up the road and bullets are fired into the vehicle. Its windshield shows some of the strikes.

    The video shows at least 10 more fighters open fire on the vehicle until it finally stops, crashing into another car. It's not known what happened to the people inside.

    A second video — another dash camera from a parked car just up the road — shows more militants near a bus stop and bomb shelter. Militants surrounded a bomb shelter and were screaming at a shirtless man standing outside it. This incident happened at 7:56 a.m. local time, according to the video.

    It's unclear what is being said, but the man squats on the ground and they begin kicking him. It's also not known what happened to the man.

    The video then shows a militant throwing a grenade into the bomb shelter. Another man runs out, trying to escape the explosion.

    He runs out of frame, but the militants immediately fix their guns on him and begin firing. His fate is also unknown.

    CNN visited that bomb shelter today. Its interior was covered in blood. ​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/
     

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