Hamas has attacked Israel

Naw, in theory something like that would probably be more to the taste of one of the Hamas monsters, served with a side-order of couscous. But, it's highly unlikely, because any form of cannibalism is strictly forbidden to all Muslims by Islam's rigid dietary laws. And if one thing is clear about Hamas today it's that they are VERY religious Muslims!

 

British conquered the land after world war 1. Wanted to give part of their land that they conquered to the Jews. The Arabs said "FU" Add religious zeolites into the mix to spice **** up and here we are.

 

For the people who care about the Palestinians and think israel are just tyranical, how would you deal with hamas?

Israel accepted two states decades ago, in 1948 but arabs did not. They didn’t want two states, they wanted all jews out so they waged war on israel for years. Egypt, jordan, syria and others waged war on israel.

so basically israel once was open to two state solution proposed by UN but arabs chose war instead. Ever since then, Palestinians have been led by extremists who do not accept the state of israel. They kill civilians then go hide amongst civilians and use them as human shields.

So if you israel haters were the leaders of israel, what would your plan be? How do deal with hamas who wants jews dead and do not even want a two state solution? They go kill innocent jews and then cross back into gaza and hide amongst the innocent to then use dead bodies in gaza to make israel look bad?

easy to complain about israel when you are on this forum not dealing with hamas.

 

What should they fear from Iran?

 

The British mandate has already been divided into a two state solution, an Arab State - Jordon and a Jewish State, Israel. What Israel has actually accepted is a 3 or 4 state solution, depending on whether Gaza and the West Bank could be controlled by a single entity. As an opening move they withdrew from Gaza, but rather than becoming a peaceful neighbor, it became an unacceptably dangerous terrorist enclave.

Notice that none of the Arab States are offering Gazans refuge while Israel deals with the 30,000 terrorist army? Jordon previously tried giving them refuge, and they immediately endangered the government and were expelled, next they destroyed Lebanon, Egypt, which blocades the other side of Gaza has said HELL NO to allowing Gazans into Egypt, they are too dangerous, the same reason that Israel does not allow them into Israel.

 

The difference is that once the wars were over the hate went away. The French now visit Germany, Germans now visit Poland, etc. Muslim hate never seems to fade away.

 

Nazi's murdered Jews. There are also Black Jews who were rescued by Israel a few years back.

 

Yes 50 years on and Germany no longer occupies France and Belgium, whereas Israelis still occupy Palestine.

 

Yes I just said that, whites murdering whites.

 

Arabs are caucasians with a better tan.

 

You really a fountain of false information. Not to mention cutting out the information that proves you wrong.

According to the Iraq Body Count Project (IBC) there were between 186,901 and 210,296 civilian casualties during the Latest Iraq war. There were only 4,492 US casualties caused by enemy action. Of the entire coalition there were only 4,810 casualties. Iraq's Military sustained 18,832 casualties, and the US detained 119,752 Iraq military. So, there were no thousands of Americans killed nor millions of Iraqis. Your claim is nothing more than a false narrative.

You also need to go back and reread the parts that you cut out of my post. The Yellowcake Uranium was shipped from Nigeria to Iraq and was found after the Iraq army was put down. It was then sent to Canada after the US invasion. The seeking out and possession violated the sanctions placed on Iraq as part of the treaty ending Desert Storm. In that treaty, Iraq was supposed to have dismantled their Centrifuge plant. Which they did not do. The fully functional Centrifuge and the Yellowcake Uranium is proof that Iraq was planning to restart their WND programs. Let's not forget that game that Saddam was playing. The UN inspectors would arrive at a facility to inspect, and they would be not allowed in until a convey left out the back gate. This gave the UN the illusion that they were hiding WMD's from the inspectors. It was that illusion that led to the invasion. After Saddam was found literally hiding in a hole, he was interrogated. He admitted that he was running the illusion, but he claimed that he was running the scam against Iran not Iraq. You also have to remember that a few months before the Iraqis had attempted to assonate Former President Bush Sr. That act was an act of war and was all the justification need to invade Iraq. So. lets try to stick to the facts.

Again, the false testimony of this 15 year old girl was not the reason for liberating Kuwait. The Congressional Human Rights Caucus does not have any Senators. Yes, there is a Senatorial Human Rights Caucus, but they were not the ones that heard the testimony by this teen. It was the Congressional Human Rights Caucus that heard the testimony. But that is not the beginning of the story. The fact is that the tale of the Kuwait Babies did not originate with the teen. It began with a letter that the Kuwait Health Minister in exile sent to the Kuwait Ambassador to the UN. In the letter, he claimed that the Iraqis had cut off oxygen to the incubators so that the pre-mature babies would die. They then threw them on the floor and packaged the incubators for shipment to Iraq. As far as members of the Caucus should have known that the teen was the Iraq Ambassador's daughter, that is not supportable. Iraq has never been known for hosting parties at their embassy. Even if they did, I seriously doubt that they would have invited members of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus.

Please, provide a source of this male bovine excrement. ISIS, the Islamic state of Iraq, is an offshoot of the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL). The goal of ISIL is to consolidate Iraq with all the countries of Levant into one Government headed by ISIL. The area of Levant includes Israel. So, why would Iraq support an army that is looking to overthrow them? Answer: They wouldn't. Also, the US did sent troops to Syria. There 400 US troops deployed to Syria. Their mission was to train and support the non-radical militias attacking the Syrian Government forces. Frankly, I do not believe that we should have gotten involved in that war. It was a total waste of time. But there is another story behind the US involvement. Saudi Arabia, not Israel, wanted to build a pipeline to Pump Oil from Saudi Arabia to Eastern Europe in competition with the Russians who have a pipeline running through Ukraine to Eastern Europe. In order for the pipeline to go through, Saudi Arabia needed a narrow strip that is part of Syria. If you will notice, the US deployment into Syria was limited the western end of Syria. The Russian entered the war in support of Assad's troops to prevent the Saudi Pipeline from going through. Russia does not like competition.

Your confusing issues here. The Viagra story resulted from a Libyan doctor who claimed that he found packets of Viagra tablets in the pockets of Libyan soldiers. There is no proof that Kaddafi was the one that distributed the pills, or that he intended for his troops to use the pills for rapes. At the time, Libya was engaged in a war against anti-government rebels. That means that the only ones that would have been raped were Libyan citizens. My point is that Kaddafi was on mood altering drugs at the time. So, it is possible that he did something like that, but I doubt it. As far as what you posted above, I fully agree that the US should never have been involved is the Libya situation. But the GOP in congress limited the War Powers Act to the Obama Administration to enforcing the No-Fly Zone, reconnaissance oversight, and providing supplies to NATO forces. Of course, Obama ignored those limits. US Naval forces launched tomahawks missiles into Libya and conducted air strikes. One of the key limits on the US forces by the War Powers Act clearly specified that there would be no troops on the ground. So, how did the US forces catch Kaddafi?

The half that was not a lie, was enough to justify going in to support the South Vietnamese forces. As a matter of fact, all we did after the Bay of Tonkin incident was to send in military advisors. It was not until the North Vietnamese army had blown up a hotel where the US forces were using as a barracks. 23 Military advisors were killed. But Johnson, and his Sec of Defense Robert McNamara, fought the war in a completely stupid manor. Especially in the beginning. No air strikes in North Vietnam. North Vietnamese troops were using the Ho Chin Mein Trail that run through Cambodia to infiltrate South Vietnam, but the US, at first, was not allowed to infiltrate Cambodia to interdict the North Vietnamese soldiers. We were not even allowed to return fire of anyone on the Dole Pineapple Plantations. It was like a game of tag. When someone touches base, you can't tag them. The Dole Pineapple plantations was the base for North Vietnamese troops. Once they crossed the boundaries to the plantations, the US could no longer return fire. The only war that I have seen that was more incompetently handled was the Afghanistan War.

It is true that the current US makeup is moving further away from the founding father's intent, but there is still hope to return to original ideas. Right now, the minority liberal elements that want to shred the US Constitution and start over are moving the DNC further to the left. In the process, many of the Democrats that have been left behind are joining the GOP or various third parties. As a result, there is almost no chance of a DNC President next term. You can bet that Robert Kennedy JR running as an independent will split the DNC vote, and guarantee a GOP President. Personally, I would rather the President not be Trump, but even he offers an improvement to what we have had in the last 2.75 years. Trump had some good ideas, and most of them worked. But his problem was that his mouth kept getting in the way of those ideas.

 

I'm talking about a two-state solution in which Palestine is NOT basically a huge prison-camp controlled by Israel, and in which Israel does not take over territories that do not belong to it to build and maintain illegal settlements. This has been pretty obvious to everybody here except you. Please try to focus!

 

By wiping them off the face of the Earth with all the might that the U.S and Israel can muster. No matter what it takes!!!

And once that's done, but not before, demand that Israel come to the table to negotiate a two-state solution based on mutual respect. Including dismantling the illegal settlements in land that doesn't belong to them. There will be a time for this. THIS is not that time, but a time WILL come.

 

Sadly yes it is. Especially since it isn't happening. Hamas wants genocide. They have said so loudly and repeatedly. The Jews rightly aren't having any more to do with this crap. Note it takes three countries to make Gaza "an open air prison" why won't Egypt or Jordan let them Out? War is an ugly business only made worse by needlessly prolonging it. What we see now is the result of needlessly prolonging a war that should have been ended 30 years ago.

 

If you are aware of scriptures, then tell why you claim that Jews come from Africa? Jews are the linage of Abraham. Abraham was born and raised by his Idol Maker Father in the area that is currently known as Syria. If you follow the linage contained in the Bible first in Genesis and continued in Mathews, you will see that a direct line between Adam to Noah, Noah to Abraham, Abraham to Moses and Moses to Jesus. None of which shows any link to Africa except for the Jews being used as slaves in Egypt. The African Jews of Ethiopia came about after the Romans had expelled a portion of the jews from the area after the Kitos war in 66 CE. But the Roman's failed to round all of them up, and after the fall of the Roman Empire many returned to their homeland. Some of those exiled by the Romans went into the country of Ethiopia and took Ethiopian wives/husbands. The result is a small Jewish population that are of color. Currently in Israel of the more than 7 million jews in Israel, only about 133,000 are from Africa. So, white jews have always been a predominate race in the area occupied by Israel.

As far as the Balfour treaty; no that was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Israel-Jordan treaty that ended the Arab Israeli war in 1948. That treaty gave the West Bank and Gaza Strip to Israeli Government.

 

Do you want a 'John Wayne ending':
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Here’s why any Israeli attempt to rescue hostages in Gaza will be ‘brutal’

Dan De Luce and Tom Winter and Carol E. Lee
Updated Fri, October 13, 2023 at 6:51 AM PDT·5 min read

Rescuing the hostages held by Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip poses unprecedented and painful choices for Israel, which may have to place a higher priority on a military victory against its adversaries than saving all the hostages, former senior U.S. officials and military officers say.

Israel has a history of daring raids to rescue its citizens or kill its enemies, but the circumstances now are beyond anything the country has faced before. Israel estimates that 150 people are being held prisoner. Any rescue attempt in Gaza would most likely be paired with a major military push to smash Hamas, an operation that could jeopardize the lives of the hostages.

Hamas has threatened to kill a hostage every time Israel bombs civilian targets in Gaza without warning.

“This is not going to be a John Wayne ending,” said a former federal law enforcement official who worked closely with Israel.
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Well, gee, thanks for the clarification. I'm not a mind reader, and you have no real reason to think that "everybody here" assesses the Israel-Palestine 'situation' the way you do. Please try to encompass a point of view wider than your own! "Focusing" is a useful thing, but not to the point of MYOPIA.

 

I'm watching all of these videos of the exodus from Northern Gaza to the South and my question is, where are they getting the fuel for the trip? There are a mix of people walking, riding donkeys and carts, but also quite a few vehicles making the trip. So where are they getting the fuel? The fuel shipments into Gaza have been cut off, and there is no electricity to power any fuel stations or pumps. As a side note, I thought these people were supposed to be poor? I literally saw a hundred different Mercedes, BMW's and other expensive vehicles on the road...

 

The owner is claiming not to be responsible:

 

Good deal. Israel isn't f*cking around this time....

 

The white Jewish Europeans are a relatively recent ethnic group who converted to a religion called Judaism over the last few centuries and still doing so.

The African claim is due to the fact that Israel is on the African continental mass, not Asian or European, therefore, politricks and whitewashing aside, Israel was and always will be, far far far into the future, African.

lsrael itself was brought into existence by Africa, namely Ancient Km.t. way before the Bible wrote it down. The first temple built by the Israelites, outside of Israel was in Ancient Km.t on the border with Meroe.

 

You think that if supplies of fuel was cut off now your car would suddenly have no fuel? They need fuel to travel 25 miles at most. I've just watched a video and there's hardly any cars given the huge population.

 

Heightened security is probably called for:

 

Just after 911 there were Israeli children in fancy dress of the twin towers yet nothing was done to their parents who were directly responsible for that sick act.

From the link I did notice :
Meanwhile, the Palestinian Authority health ministry said on Thursday that two Palestinians were killed after Israeli settlers opened fire on a funeral procession near the West Bank town of Qusra, south of Nablus.

According to the Palestinian Authority’s WAFA news agency, ambulances were carrying the bodies of four Palestinians shot dead a day earlier, reportedly also by Israeli settlers in Qusra, when settlers arrived at the scene and attempted to halt the funeral procession, with gunfire ensuing.

The military said the incidents were under investigations

The assailants are rarely arrested or prosecuted for their actions.

As usual, settlers and their settlements are the main cause of the violence

 

Palestinian Government:

Convoy of fleeing civilians hit.
70 were killed.
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